Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:Update from CNN: a little on the note found and FBI states Robinson’s family told investigators he had “subscribed to left wing ideology.”

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-presidency-charlie-kirk-repercussions-09-15-25

No one who is a liberal or progressive uses the terminology "left wing ideology" so take that for what it is worth.

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Anonymous wrote:When the Governor of Utah says the suspect is not cooperating, I think that means tbe suspect is not going along with the government's preconceiived storyline.

Exactly.

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I fear for his life. Dead men tell no tales.

Right on cue

He's being seen by psychiatrist Wolly Jest to make sure he gets the best treatment and nothing happens to him before we get a clear and rational explanation.

Rational is subjective. To Trump and the right, the only rational explanation is it was carried lut by the left. They just can't deal with the possibility that it was their own who killed Kirk.

Gov Cox (not exactly Mr MAGA) who is leading the investigation said the killer was indoctrinated online by leftist ideology on every Sunday show. How was he one of their own?

I just read an article that investigators are pointing to gaming and the dark internet subculture as the source of that indoctrination. Even Cox recently made that reference. It doesn’t seem unlikely that they misunderstood the nature of the radicalization early on by thinking in conventional terms (investigators probably understood). Hopefully the poster who was celebrating yesterday about wasting “350 pages” on the topic sticks around.

The governor cited Reddit as an example of the deep, dark internet. He has no idea what he’s talking about.

I get where you're coming from, but if you go full circle, Reddit is like a lounge for the freaks that live online. It isn't where they discuss assassination plots, but it is most definitely where they go to circle jerk and echo chamber. Spend any time on the DC sub and you'll quickly see you aren't one of the cool kids unless you drink the kool aid of bike lanes, mass transit, all things gay and black and on and on with all the predictables.

LOL, equating a more positive and sustainable urban built environment with the dark corners of reddit and discord.

Way to miss the point.

Nah, not missing the point. You are willfully trying to equate Nick Fuentes with "leftist" urban aims.

Way to miss the point again. If you think Tyler didn't have an active Reddit account, you are the moron, not Cox.

DP. What does that have to do with anything?

Try and keep up. Someone upstream mocked Cox's reference to Reddit. I was explaining how Reddit may not be the 'dark, deep' internet, but it most certainly is a place frequented by those that do use the deep dark internet.

That was me, the one who mocked Cox’s reference to Reddit, and I think your point is silly. People who use the “deep dark internet” also frequent the bathroom and the grocery store. Cox just sounds out of touch, like he really has no idea what goes on online.

Jesus man. You just keep digging in deeper. It's fine you don't get it or want to admit it, but if you really want to state that people like radicalized 22 year old queers don't use Reddit, expect to be called out.

I don’t disagree that the shooter was likely on Reddit, I just don’t think it’s relevant at all to a discussion of the deep dark internet. And many other posters agree with me. So I guess none of get it, and I’m perfectly willing to admit that.

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Anonymous wrote:Update from CNN: a little on the note found and FBI states Robinson’s family told investigators he had “subscribed to left wing ideology.”

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-presidency-charlie-kirk-repercussions-09-15-25

They need to provide the actual contents of the letter and not nebulous interpretation like this.

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Anonymous wrote:Not a bot.

Why does someone insist on posting randos from twitter of all places? no one cares

Worse, a rando from TikTok.

Meanwhile, Republican politicians keep calling for violence against Democrats in retribution, and not a peep from these disingenuous pearl clutchers.

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The relatives are on record now saying the partner hated Christians and conservatives, and that Tyler also had those beliefs now. When are you all going to stop denying facts?

Ahh sure, anonymous, unnamed "relatives" and we have no way of independently verifying any of this.

Grandma stated early on that the family was Maga. Grandmas never wrong.

The family might be conservative. It neither the shooter nor his lover are. That has been verified with evidence. The shooter went hard left and abandoned his family’s values.

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The relatives are on record now saying the partner hated Christians and conservatives, and that Tyler also had those beliefs now. When are you all going to stop denying facts?

Ahh sure, anonymous, unnamed "relatives" and we have no way of independently verifying any of this.

Grandma stated early on that the family was Maga. Grandmas never wrong.

Grandma also believes that you can't swim after eating.

Grandma also thinks Reddit is the dark web.

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Anonymous wrote:Not a bot.

Why does someone insist on posting randos from twitter of all places? no one cares

Worse, a rando from TikTok.

Meanwhile, Republican politicians keep calling for violence against Democrats in retribution, and not a peep from these disingenuous pearl clutchers.

Who called for violence against democrats?

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Anonymous wrote:Update from CNN: a little on the note found and FBI states Robinson’s family told investigators he had “subscribed to left wing ideology.”

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-presidency-charlie-kirk-repercussions-09-15-25

They need to provide the actual contents of the letter and not nebulous interpretation like this.

That’s great and all FBI, but he’s 22 years old. Let’s look at the upbringing that got him here.

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The relatives are on record now saying the partner hated Christians and conservatives, and that Tyler also had those beliefs now. When are you all going to stop denying facts?

Ahh sure, anonymous, unnamed "relatives" and we have no way of independently verifying any of this.

Grandma stated early on that the family was Maga. Grandmas never wrong.

The family might be conservative. It neither the shooter nor his lover are. That has been verified with evidence. The shooter went hard left and abandoned his family’s values.

No actual evidence has been provided that he went hard left. It fact, it’s conspicuously absent so far.

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Anonymous wrote:When the Governor of Utah says the suspect is not cooperating, I think that means tbe suspect is not going along with the government's preconceiived storyline.

Exactly.

+1

I fear for his life. Dead men tell no tales.

Right on cue

He's being seen by psychiatrist Wolly Jest to make sure he gets the best treatment and nothing happens to him before we get a clear and rational explanation.

Rational is subjective. To Trump and the right, the only rational explanation is it was carried lut by the left. They just can't deal with the possibility that it was their own who killed Kirk.

Gov Cox (not exactly Mr MAGA) who is leading the investigation said the killer was indoctrinated online by leftist ideology on every Sunday show. How was he one of their own?

I just read an article that investigators are pointing to gaming and the dark internet subculture as the source of that indoctrination. Even Cox recently made that reference. It doesn’t seem unlikely that they misunderstood the nature of the radicalization early on by thinking in conventional terms (investigators probably understood). Hopefully the poster who was celebrating yesterday about wasting “350 pages” on the topic sticks around.

The governor cited Reddit as an example of the deep, dark internet. He has no idea what he’s talking about.

I get where you're coming from, but if you go full circle, Reddit is like a lounge for the freaks that live online. It isn't where they discuss assassination plots, but it is most definitely where they go to circle jerk and echo chamber. Spend any time on the DC sub and you'll quickly see you aren't one of the cool kids unless you drink the kool aid of bike lanes, mass transit, all things gay and black and on and on with all the predictables.

LOL, equating a more positive and sustainable urban built environment with the dark corners of reddit and discord.

Way to miss the point.

Nah, not missing the point. You are willfully trying to equate Nick Fuentes with "leftist" urban aims.

Way to miss the point again. If you think Tyler didn't have an active Reddit account, you are the moron, not Cox.

DP. What does that have to do with anything?

Try and keep up. Someone upstream mocked Cox's reference to Reddit. I was explaining how Reddit may not be the 'dark, deep' internet, but it most certainly is a place frequented by those that do use the deep dark internet.

That was me, the one who mocked Cox’s reference to Reddit, and I think your point is silly. People who use the “deep dark internet” also frequent the bathroom and the grocery store. Cox just sounds out of touch, like he really has no idea what goes on online.

To be fair to Cox, it is impossible to sound in touch and not crazy once furries enter the chat.

That’s the thing, though. People think the culture is broken because customer service is dead and no one says hi to their neighbors anymore. Wait til they start learning about what the kids are talking about in their online subcultures.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Update from CNN: a little on the note found and FBI states Robinson’s family told investigators he had “subscribed to left wing ideology.”

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-presidency-charlie-kirk-repercussions-09-15-25

They need to provide the actual contents of the letter and not nebulous interpretation like this.

Exactly. What specifically is this "left wing ideology". Is there a group? Are there websites where this group discusses their ideas?

Regardless, his actions are not in line with mainstream liberal or Democrat political ideas. So Trump and his GOP cronies need to stop with their inflammatory language toward Democrats and liberals. Perhaps they should all be fired.

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The relatives are on record now saying the partner hated Christians and conservatives, and that Tyler also had those beliefs now. When are you all going to stop denying facts?

Ahh sure, anonymous, unnamed "relatives" and we have no way of independently verifying any of this.

Grandma stated early on that the family was Maga. Grandmas never wrong.

The family might be conservative. It neither the shooter nor his lover are. That has been verified with evidence. The shooter went hard left and abandoned his family’s values.

We don't know that. It's actually suprising how little we know about either his motive or ideology. We don't even know if he has an ideology.

Nobody understands furries. I'm guessing they're just assuming that furry = left wing because it's a way out there lifestyle and mainstream conservatives automatically think that everything weird if "left wing". But furries defy classification.

For instance
https://youtu.be/tkSpIqYAHNg

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Update from CNN: a little on the note found and FBI states Robinson’s family told investigators he had “subscribed to left wing ideology.”

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-presidency-charlie-kirk-repercussions-09-15-25

We are supposed to be excited about this because this is from CNN?

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Anonymous wrote:If Lance and Tyler were this flaming, furry bizarre counterculture couple, they would have left Utah.

No they wouldn’t have. There’s people like that everywhere, literally everywhere, in every small town in the US. They find community online and get radicalized that way. Now I’m not saying the shooter was textbook far left - it seems just as likely he was pretty much apolitical and was radicalized into violence by gamer meme internet culture, where he seemed to spend most of his time. But to say oh there’s no one like that in a small town in Utah or wherever is patently false.

I do not believe this. He was a bright person, who probably was recruited by the CIA or NSA his freshman year of college.

LOL. The CIA and NSA do not recruit from fourth-tier regional universities.

Whatever, they could have been independent contractors, if they were that good CIA/NSA wouldn’t care where they went ti school.

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Anonymous wrote:When the Governor of Utah says the suspect is not cooperating, I think that means tbe suspect is not going along with the government's preconceiived storyline.

Exactly.

+1

I fear for his life. Dead men tell no tales.

Right on cue

He's being seen by psychiatrist Wolly Jest to make sure he gets the best treatment and nothing happens to him before we get a clear and rational explanation.

Rational is subjective. To Trump and the right, the only rational explanation is it was carried lut by the left. They just can't deal with the possibility that it was their own who killed Kirk.

Gov Cox (not exactly Mr MAGA) who is leading the investigation said the killer was indoctrinated online by leftist ideology on every Sunday show. How was he one of their own?

I just read an article that investigators are pointing to gaming and the dark internet subculture as the source of that indoctrination. Even Cox recently made that reference. It doesn’t seem unlikely that they misunderstood the nature of the radicalization early on by thinking in conventional terms (investigators probably understood). Hopefully the poster who was celebrating yesterday about wasting “350 pages” on the topic sticks around.

The governor cited Reddit as an example of the deep, dark internet. He has no idea what he’s talking about.

I get where you're coming from, but if you go full circle, Reddit is like a lounge for the freaks that live online. It isn't where they discuss assassination plots, but it is most definitely where they go to circle jerk and echo chamber. Spend any time on the DC sub and you'll quickly see you aren't one of the cool kids unless you drink the kool aid of bike lanes, mass transit, all things gay and black and on and on with all the predictables.

LOL, equating a more positive and sustainable urban built environment with the dark corners of reddit and discord.

Way to miss the point.

Nah, not missing the point. You are willfully trying to equate Nick Fuentes with "leftist" urban aims.

Way to miss the point again. If you think Tyler didn't have an active Reddit account, you are the moron, not Cox.

DP. What does that have to do with anything?

Try and keep up. Someone upstream mocked Cox's reference to Reddit. I was explaining how Reddit may not be the 'dark, deep' internet, but it most certainly is a place frequented by those that do use the deep dark internet.

That was me, the one who mocked Cox’s reference to Reddit, and I think your point is silly. People who use the “deep dark internet” also frequent the bathroom and the grocery store. Cox just sounds out of touch, like he really has no idea what goes on online.

Jesus man. You just keep digging in deeper. It's fine you don't get it or want to admit it, but if you really want to state that people like radicalized 22 year old queers don't use Reddit, expect to be called out.

DP and you are the one digging in. The PP has completely reasonable responses and you won't be happy until they self flagellate? Get over yourself and let it go.