Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:Tyler gives dorky hacker vibes, someone very book smart, brilliant with tech, but lacks some common sense.

Wow, he could use a web browser! Watch out world.

And very book smart?! Not, book smart people don’t kill people.

So true lol. He’s a college drop out. His physical attributes look a bit divergent. I see mild ptosis in one eye. Oddly elongated facial structure. Underbite. Kirk also had an odd facial structure.

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Anonymous wrote:Tyler gives dorky hacker vibes, someone very book smart, brilliant with tech, but lacks some common sense.

Wow, he could use a web browser! Watch out world.

And very book smart?! Not, book smart people don’t kill people.

So true lol. He’s a college drop out. His physical attributes look a bit divergent. I see mild ptosis in one eye. Oddly elongated facial structure. Underbite. Kirk also had an odd facial structure.

He is not the murderer.

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Anonymous wrote:When the Governor of Utah says the suspect is not cooperating, I think that means tbe suspect is not going along with the government's preconceiived storyline.

Exactly.

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I fear for his life. Dead men tell no tales.

Right on cue

He's being seen by psychiatrist Wolly Jest to make sure he gets the best treatment and nothing happens to him before we get a clear and rational explanation.

Rational is subjective. To Trump and the right, the only rational explanation is it was carried lut by the left. They just can't deal with the possibility that it was their own who killed Kirk.

Gov Cox (not exactly Mr MAGA) who is leading the investigation said the killer was indoctrinated online by leftist ideology on every Sunday show. How was he one of their own?

I just read an article that investigators are pointing to gaming and the dark internet subculture as the source of that indoctrination. Even Cox recently made that reference. It doesn’t seem unlikely that they misunderstood the nature of the radicalization early on by thinking in conventional terms (investigators probably understood). Hopefully the poster who was celebrating yesterday about wasting “350 pages” on the topic sticks around.

The governor cited Reddit as an example of the deep, dark internet. He has no idea what he’s talking about.

I get where you're coming from, but if you go full circle, Reddit is like a lounge for the freaks that live online. It isn't where they discuss assassination plots, but it is most definitely where they go to circle jerk and echo chamber. Spend any time on the DC sub and you'll quickly see you aren't one of the cool kids unless you drink the kool aid of bike lanes, mass transit, all things gay and black and on and on with all the predictables.

LOL, equating a more positive and sustainable urban built environment with the dark corners of reddit and discord.

Way to miss the point.

Nah, not missing the point. You are willfully trying to equate Nick Fuentes with "leftist" urban aims.

Way to miss the point again. If you think Tyler didn't have an active Reddit account, you are the moron, not Cox.

DP. What does that have to do with anything?

Try and keep up. Someone upstream mocked Cox's reference to Reddit. I was explaining how Reddit may not be the 'dark, deep' internet, but it most certainly is a place frequented by those that do use the deep dark internet.

That was me, the one who mocked Cox’s reference to Reddit, and I think your point is silly. People who use the “deep dark internet” also frequent the bathroom and the grocery store. Cox just sounds out of touch, like he really has no idea what goes on online.

Jesus man. You just keep digging in deeper. It's fine you don't get it or want to admit it, but if you really want to state that people like radicalized 22 year old queers don't use Reddit, expect to be called out.

DP and you are the one digging in. The PP has completely reasonable responses and you won't be happy until they self flagellate? Get over yourself and let it go.

No one belives you are a DP

I am. You don’t like being called out for being a jerk.

Oh. OK. I believe you now!

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Anonymous wrote:I guess the legacy of Charlie Kirk will be "sure, disagree with me, but if you do you'll lose your job"

Celebrating an innocent man being murdered isn't just disagreeing with someone. It's disgusting and we should be doing better. These lunatics losing their jobs is a GOOD thing for society.

The pastor at Alfred Street Baptist wasn't celebrating his death at all. Yet according to a PP, he now has a target on his back.

According to a lot of people anyone that doesn't put Charlie Kirk on a pedestal is "celebrating his death". No, I don't care that he died and it certainly doesn't make me happy. But he was horrible. Unfortunately there are many more like him.

like this Canadian journalist

https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2025/09/15/Dangerous-Targeting-Canadian-Journalist/Canadian journalist Rachel Gilmore took to social media to share insights based on years of reporting, writing that she was concerned some fans of Kirk on the far right who are “aching for more violence, could turn this into an even more radicalizing moment. Will they now believe their fears have been proven right and they have a right to ‘retaliate,’ no matter who was behind the actual shooting?”

Conservative MP Andrew Scheer swiftly reposted Gilmore’s comments, saying she was “twisted” and had “so much hate in her.” Other Canadian Conservatives also weighed in or reposted Scheer’s comment, while a screenshot of another post Gilmore made was circulated by right-wing influencers.

Hours later, Gilmore’s name was the first to appear on a website called “Expose Charlie’s Murderers,” part of an effort by right-wing figures to identify people they viewed as having celebrated Kirk’s killing. In many cases, MAGA supporters have called for those people to lose their jobs.

Gilmore then received death and rape threats, including threats that say, “We know where you live.”

As the U.S. tech magazine Wired reported, Gilmore’s initial analysis was accurate: in the hours following the shooting, high-profile figures in the MAGA movement, as well as far-right extremists, posted calls for war or civil war, to punish Democrats for “terrorism,” named “the left” as “the party of murder” and called to restart far-right militias.

This is the truly scary part. Ethical journalists are being silenced for doing their jobs.

Meh. It could be worse. They could get shot in the neck.

That lady journalist doesn't deserve death threats. Her statements are full of lies but as long as she's just writing her glorified opinion piece, she's within her right.
If they identify the people that sent her the alleged death threats, of course those people should be prosecuted.

But again, this is entirely different. People cheering on a murder of an innocent and doing so in a public format should accept the social and professional consequences to their own behavior. This shouldn't be political. It works both ways!

When you say "this" what specifically are you referring to? Presumably these are online statements, so I assume you have links.

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Anonymous wrote:Tyler gives dorky hacker vibes, someone very book smart, brilliant with tech, but lacks some common sense.

Wow, he could use a web browser! Watch out world.

And very book smart?! Not, book smart people don’t kill people.

So true lol. He’s a college drop out. His physical attributes look a bit divergent. I see mild ptosis in one eye. Oddly elongated facial structure. Underbite. Kirk also had an odd facial structure.

He is not the murderer.

Wdym? I was clearly referring to Tyler the shooter. Kirk also had odd facial features + extremist behavior. No, I don’t condone his death. I do condemn flaming the radicalization fire.

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Anonymous wrote:When the Governor of Utah says the suspect is not cooperating, I think that means tbe suspect is not going along with the government's preconceiived storyline.

Exactly.

+1

I fear for his life. Dead men tell no tales.

Right on cue

He's being seen by psychiatrist Wolly Jest to make sure he gets the best treatment and nothing happens to him before we get a clear and rational explanation.

Rational is subjective. To Trump and the right, the only rational explanation is it was carried lut by the left. They just can't deal with the possibility that it was their own who killed Kirk.

Gov Cox (not exactly Mr MAGA) who is leading the investigation said the killer was indoctrinated online by leftist ideology on every Sunday show. How was he one of their own?

I just read an article that investigators are pointing to gaming and the dark internet subculture as the source of that indoctrination. Even Cox recently made that reference. It doesn’t seem unlikely that they misunderstood the nature of the radicalization early on by thinking in conventional terms (investigators probably understood). Hopefully the poster who was celebrating yesterday about wasting “350 pages” on the topic sticks around.

The governor cited Reddit as an example of the deep, dark internet. He has no idea what he’s talking about.

I get where you're coming from, but if you go full circle, Reddit is like a lounge for the freaks that live online. It isn't where they discuss assassination plots, but it is most definitely where they go to circle jerk and echo chamber. Spend any time on the DC sub and you'll quickly see you aren't one of the cool kids unless you drink the kool aid of bike lanes, mass transit, all things gay and black and on and on with all the predictables.

LOL, equating a more positive and sustainable urban built environment with the dark corners of reddit and discord.

Way to miss the point.

Nah, not missing the point. You are willfully trying to equate Nick Fuentes with "leftist" urban aims.

Way to miss the point again. If you think Tyler didn't have an active Reddit account, you are the moron, not Cox.

DP. What does that have to do with anything?

Try and keep up. Someone upstream mocked Cox's reference to Reddit. I was explaining how Reddit may not be the 'dark, deep' internet, but it most certainly is a place frequented by those that do use the deep dark internet.

That was me, the one who mocked Cox’s reference to Reddit, and I think your point is silly. People who use the “deep dark internet” also frequent the bathroom and the grocery store. Cox just sounds out of touch, like he really has no idea what goes on online.

Jesus man. You just keep digging in deeper. It's fine you don't get it or want to admit it, but if you really want to state that people like radicalized 22 year old queers don't use Reddit, expect to be called out.

DP and you are the one digging in. The PP has completely reasonable responses and you won't be happy until they self flagellate? Get over yourself and let it go.

No one belives you are a DP

I am. You don’t like being called out for being a jerk.

Oh. OK. I believe you now!

It was a DP. (I’m the original one.) Believe me, there are more than two of us who think you’re an idiot.

[Anonymous]

I think Robinson has said nothing therefore it makes it easy for others to speak for him. Others who are interested in the truth but promoting an agenda.

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Anonymous wrote:When the Governor of Utah says the suspect is not cooperating, I think that means tbe suspect is not going along with the government's preconceiived storyline.

Exactly.

+1

I fear for his life. Dead men tell no tales.

Right on cue

He's being seen by psychiatrist Wolly Jest to make sure he gets the best treatment and nothing happens to him before we get a clear and rational explanation.

Rational is subjective. To Trump and the right, the only rational explanation is it was carried lut by the left. They just can't deal with the possibility that it was their own who killed Kirk.

Gov Cox (not exactly Mr MAGA) who is leading the investigation said the killer was indoctrinated online by leftist ideology on every Sunday show. How was he one of their own?

I just read an article that investigators are pointing to gaming and the dark internet subculture as the source of that indoctrination. Even Cox recently made that reference. It doesn’t seem unlikely that they misunderstood the nature of the radicalization early on by thinking in conventional terms (investigators probably understood). Hopefully the poster who was celebrating yesterday about wasting “350 pages” on the topic sticks around.

The governor cited Reddit as an example of the deep, dark internet. He has no idea what he’s talking about.

I get where you're coming from, but if you go full circle, Reddit is like a lounge for the freaks that live online. It isn't where they discuss assassination plots, but it is most definitely where they go to circle jerk and echo chamber. Spend any time on the DC sub and you'll quickly see you aren't one of the cool kids unless you drink the kool aid of bike lanes, mass transit, all things gay and black and on and on with all the predictables.

LOL, equating a more positive and sustainable urban built environment with the dark corners of reddit and discord.

Way to miss the point.

Nah, not missing the point. You are willfully trying to equate Nick Fuentes with "leftist" urban aims.

Way to miss the point again. If you think Tyler didn't have an active Reddit account, you are the moron, not Cox.

DP. What does that have to do with anything?

Try and keep up. Someone upstream mocked Cox's reference to Reddit. I was explaining how Reddit may not be the 'dark, deep' internet, but it most certainly is a place frequented by those that do use the deep dark internet.

That was me, the one who mocked Cox’s reference to Reddit, and I think your point is silly. People who use the “deep dark internet” also frequent the bathroom and the grocery store. Cox just sounds out of touch, like he really has no idea what goes on online.

Jesus man. You just keep digging in deeper. It's fine you don't get it or want to admit it, but if you really want to state that people like radicalized 22 year old queers don't use Reddit, expect to be called out.

DP and you are the one digging in. The PP has completely reasonable responses and you won't be happy until they self flagellate? Get over yourself and let it go.

No one belives you are a DP

I am. You don’t like being called out for being a jerk.

Oh. OK. I believe you now!

It was a DP. (I’m the original one.) Believe me, there are more than two of us who think you’re an idiot.

I believe you too!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I guess the legacy of Charlie Kirk will be "sure, disagree with me, but if you do you'll lose your job"

Celebrating an innocent man being murdered isn't just disagreeing with someone. It's disgusting and we should be doing better. These lunatics losing their jobs is a GOOD thing for society.

The pastor at Alfred Street Baptist wasn't celebrating his death at all. Yet according to a PP, he now has a target on his back.

According to a lot of people anyone that doesn't put Charlie Kirk on a pedestal is "celebrating his death". No, I don't care that he died and it certainly doesn't make me happy. But he was horrible. Unfortunately there are many more like him.

Well unless you put out a tik tok talking about how happy you are that he died, I wouldn't worry. The people who are losing their jobs are gleefully celebrating murder. I think we can all agree that murder is a tragedy that shouldn't be celebrated or laughed about.

People were showing happiness when the liberal Supreme Court justices died.

They were happy when George Floyd died.

And that is their right. Freedom of Speech.

Freedom of speech - sure. But don't get upset when acting like an evil nutcase gets you ostracized - socially and professionally.

This exact reasoning could be used to justify people’s feelings about Kirk.

People are being castigated for simply repeated verbatim, Kirk's words. I mean, come on.

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This is an odd takeaway. No one I know thinks he deserves to die. But there were other people who died that day, like those shot in Colorado, who we will mourn more.

There’s a whole website calling a database full of people “murderers” and most of them simply posted his views online.

You mean the website run by the gay trans pro-maga darling of the GOP?

https://www.advocate.com/politics/who-is-scott-presler

Do you think this is a gotcha? It's not. The fact that he's gay doesn't change the fact that MAGA is raring to have a witch hunt for people having a rational reaction to the death of someone who hated most Americans.

Earlier this morning, someone posted on this thread that because the shooter was gay, he was a liberal. Are you saying that is false?

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Anonymous wrote:I guess the legacy of Charlie Kirk will be "sure, disagree with me, but if you do you'll lose your job"

Celebrating an innocent man being murdered isn't just disagreeing with someone. It's disgusting and we should be doing better. These lunatics losing their jobs is a GOOD thing for society.

The pastor at Alfred Street Baptist wasn't celebrating his death at all. Yet according to a PP, he now has a target on his back.

According to a lot of people anyone that doesn't put Charlie Kirk on a pedestal is "celebrating his death". No, I don't care that he died and it certainly doesn't make me happy. But he was horrible. Unfortunately there are many more like him.

like this Canadian journalist

https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2025/09/15/Dangerous-Targeting-Canadian-Journalist/Canadian journalist Rachel Gilmore took to social media to share insights based on years of reporting, writing that she was concerned some fans of Kirk on the far right who are “aching for more violence, could turn this into an even more radicalizing moment. Will they now believe their fears have been proven right and they have a right to ‘retaliate,’ no matter who was behind the actual shooting?”

Conservative MP Andrew Scheer swiftly reposted Gilmore’s comments, saying she was “twisted” and had “so much hate in her.” Other Canadian Conservatives also weighed in or reposted Scheer’s comment, while a screenshot of another post Gilmore made was circulated by right-wing influencers.

Hours later, Gilmore’s name was the first to appear on a website called “Expose Charlie’s Murderers,” part of an effort by right-wing figures to identify people they viewed as having celebrated Kirk’s killing. In many cases, MAGA supporters have called for those people to lose their jobs.

Gilmore then received death and rape threats, including threats that say, “We know where you live.”

As the U.S. tech magazine Wired reported, Gilmore’s initial analysis was accurate: in the hours following the shooting, high-profile figures in the MAGA movement, as well as far-right extremists, posted calls for war or civil war, to punish Democrats for “terrorism,” named “the left” as “the party of murder” and called to restart far-right militias.

This is the truly scary part. Ethical journalists are being silenced for doing their jobs.

Meh. It could be worse. They could get shot in the neck.

That lady journalist doesn't deserve death threats. Her statements are full of lies but as long as she's just writing her glorified opinion piece, she's within her right.
If they identify the people that sent her the alleged death threats, of course those people should be prosecuted.

But again, this is entirely different. People cheering on a murder of an innocent and doing so in a public format should accept the social and professional consequences to their own behavior. This shouldn't be political. It works both ways!

Uh, what are the lies? Please be specific.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Tyler Robinson is a radicalized leftist and yet another violent, pro-trans, assassin:

https://www.ngocomment.com/p/unmasking-luna-charlie-kirk-assassin

Think of what could have been if he hadn’t been twisted and abused by far right extremism. If only he had been allowed to become who he was.

We need to investigate all of the these religious cults.

Are you claiming he did not live up to his full extreme left potential? Maybe could have murdered more innocents for their right wing beliefs?

[Anonymous]

So the shooter had a boyfriend who was transitioning M->F.

Do I have that correct? It's all over the news.

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Anonymous wrote:Tyler gives dorky hacker vibes, someone very book smart, brilliant with tech, but lacks some common sense.

Wow, he could use a web browser! Watch out world.

And very book smart?! Not, book smart people don’t kill people.

So true lol. He’s a college drop out. His physical attributes look a bit divergent. I see mild ptosis in one eye. Oddly elongated facial structure. Underbite. Kirk also had an odd facial structure.

He is not the murderer.

Wdym? I was clearly referring to Tyler the shooter. Kirk also had odd facial features + extremist behavior. No, I don’t condone his death. I do condemn flaming the radicalization fire.

Tyler Robinson is not the murderer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Tyler gives dorky hacker vibes, someone very book smart, brilliant with tech, but lacks some common sense.

Wow, he could use a web browser! Watch out world.

And very book smart?! Not, book smart people don’t kill people.

So true lol. He’s a college drop out. His physical attributes look a bit divergent. I see mild ptosis in one eye. Oddly elongated facial structure. Underbite. Kirk also had an odd facial structure.

He is not the murderer.

Wdym? I was clearly referring to Tyler the shooter. Kirk also had odd facial features + extremist behavior. No, I don’t condone his death. I do condemn flaming the radicalization fire.

Tyler Robinson is not the murderer.

Oh, I see