Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:When the Governor of Utah says the suspect is not cooperating, I think that means tbe suspect is not going along with the government's preconceiived storyline.

Exactly.

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I fear for his life. Dead men tell no tales.

Right on cue

He's being seen by psychiatrist Wolly Jest to make sure he gets the best treatment and nothing happens to him before we get a clear and rational explanation.

Rational is subjective. To Trump and the right, the only rational explanation is it was carried lut by the left. They just can't deal with the possibility that it was their own who killed Kirk.

Gov Cox (not exactly Mr MAGA) who is leading the investigation said the killer was indoctrinated online by leftist ideology on every Sunday show. How was he one of their own?

Did he specify what "leftist ideology" meant or just keep repeating that phrase. Who/what was the group indoctrinating him? Where is this leftist group that supports assassination as a way to solve problems?

More likely this guy is a product of nihilistic online gaming culture that draws from extreme views on both sides, but that won't suit the Trump narrative. Who knows. But parroting this stuff until they can get words from the shooter is dangerous right now. Especially when you have the POTUS and other GOP politicians talking about retribution against Democrats. Irresponsible. It would have been fine to say we aren't sure yet.

Blackpilling, nihilism and accelerationism toward a civil war (along with actions to try and bring us there) are things that a certain segment of right wing online subculture and right wing groups like Boogaloo Boys and Groyper Army are all about. They are destroyers, whereas Charlie Kirk and his ilk are on a different right wing path, of remaking America in Christian Nationalism.

Cox seems naive, he comes off more like a boomer than someone in his 50s, and he doesn't seem aware of the depth and breadth and varying, often opposing viewpoints and ideations in online right wing subcultures.

Is there even room for Mormons in a Christian Nationalist America, or do they get persecuted too?

They will get persecuted after the liberals.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like the guy was struggling with being gay. The Mormon church hates gay people. Conservatives are currently at war with the LGBTQ community. When you’re trying to come to terms with who you are, these external factors of pure unadulterated hatred sure don’t make it easy.

Kirk shouldn’t have been shot but it isn’t like he did much good in the world either.

The alt-right attracts a surprising amount of young gay men. It’s complicated, but a lot of the values of that community align with the right (particularly the glorifying of masculinity). LGBTQ are more accepted in society nowadays, so civil rights isn’t at the forefront of their concerns. I don’t think they’re aware of how precarious their position is. There must be some cognitive dissonance that goes on when conservative leaders throw them under the bus.

But Tyler is not gay.

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Anonymous wrote:When the Governor of Utah says the suspect is not cooperating, I think that means tbe suspect is not going along with the government's preconceiived storyline.

Exactly.

+1

I fear for his life. Dead men tell no tales.

Right on cue

He's being seen by psychiatrist Wolly Jest to make sure he gets the best treatment and nothing happens to him before we get a clear and rational explanation.

Rational is subjective. To Trump and the right, the only rational explanation is it was carried lut by the left. They just can't deal with the possibility that it was their own who killed Kirk.

Gov Cox (not exactly Mr MAGA) who is leading the investigation said the killer was indoctrinated online by leftist ideology on every Sunday show. How was he one of their own?

I just read an article that investigators are pointing to gaming and the dark internet subculture as the source of that indoctrination. Even Cox recently made that reference. It doesn’t seem unlikely that they misunderstood the nature of the radicalization early on by thinking in conventional terms (investigators probably understood). Hopefully the poster who was celebrating yesterday about wasting “350 pages” on the topic sticks around.

The governor cited Reddit as an example of the deep, dark internet. He has no idea what he’s talking about.

I get where you're coming from, but if you go full circle, Reddit is like a lounge for the freaks that live online. It isn't where they discuss assassination plots, but it is most definitely where they go to circle jerk and echo chamber. Spend any time on the DC sub and you'll quickly see you aren't one of the cool kids unless you drink the kool aid of bike lanes, mass transit, all things gay and black and on and on with all the predictables.

LOL, equating a more positive and sustainable urban built environment with the dark corners of reddit and discord.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like the guy was struggling with being gay. The Mormon church hates gay people. Conservatives are currently at war with the LGBTQ community. When you’re trying to come to terms with who you are, these external factors of pure unadulterated hatred sure don’t make it easy.

Kirk shouldn’t have been shot but it isn’t like he did much good in the world either.

The alt-right attracts a surprising amount of young gay men. It’s complicated, but a lot of the values of that community align with the right (particularly the glorifying of masculinity). LGBTQ are more accepted in society nowadays, so civil rights isn’t at the forefront of their concerns. I don’t think they’re aware of how precarious their position is. There must be some cognitive dissonance that goes on when conservative leaders throw them under the bus.

But Tyler is not gay.

He sucks d*ck. That makes him gay.

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Anonymous wrote:When the Governor of Utah says the suspect is not cooperating, I think that means tbe suspect is not going along with the government's preconceiived storyline.

Exactly.

+1

I fear for his life. Dead men tell no tales.

Right on cue

He's being seen by psychiatrist Wolly Jest to make sure he gets the best treatment and nothing happens to him before we get a clear and rational explanation.

Rational is subjective. To Trump and the right, the only rational explanation is it was carried lut by the left. They just can't deal with the possibility that it was their own who killed Kirk.

Gov Cox (not exactly Mr MAGA) who is leading the investigation said the killer was indoctrinated online by leftist ideology on every Sunday show. How was he one of their own?

I just read an article that investigators are pointing to gaming and the dark internet subculture as the source of that indoctrination. Even Cox recently made that reference. It doesn’t seem unlikely that they misunderstood the nature of the radicalization early on by thinking in conventional terms (investigators probably understood). Hopefully the poster who was celebrating yesterday about wasting “350 pages” on the topic sticks around.

The governor cited Reddit as an example of the deep, dark internet. He has no idea what he’s talking about.

I get where you're coming from, but if you go full circle, Reddit is like a lounge for the freaks that live online. It isn't where they discuss assassination plots, but it is most definitely where they go to circle jerk and echo chamber. Spend any time on the DC sub and you'll quickly see you aren't one of the cool kids unless you drink the kool aid of bike lanes, mass transit, all things gay and black and on and on with all the predictables.

LOL, equating a more positive and sustainable urban built environment with the dark corners of reddit and discord.

Way to miss the point.

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So the left angle is just bs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like the guy was struggling with being gay. The Mormon church hates gay people. Conservatives are currently at war with the LGBTQ community. When you’re trying to come to terms with who you are, these external factors of pure unadulterated hatred sure don’t make it easy.

Kirk shouldn’t have been shot but it isn’t like he did much good in the world either.

The alt-right attracts a surprising amount of young gay men. It’s complicated, but a lot of the values of that community align with the right (particularly the glorifying of masculinity). LGBTQ are more accepted in society nowadays, so civil rights isn’t at the forefront of their concerns. I don’t think they’re aware of how precarious their position is. There must be some cognitive dissonance that goes on when conservative leaders throw them under the bus.

But Tyler is not gay.

He sucks d*ck. That makes him gay.

And you know this how?

[Anonymous]

For those saying anyone saying anything critical about Kirk after he died should be harrassed, fired from their jobs etc:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/255/1291638.page

This says it all. Do some reflection on your hypocrisy.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When the Governor of Utah says the suspect is not cooperating, I think that means tbe suspect is not going along with the government's preconceiived storyline.

Exactly.

+1

I fear for his life. Dead men tell no tales.

Right on cue

He's being seen by psychiatrist Wolly Jest to make sure he gets the best treatment and nothing happens to him before we get a clear and rational explanation.

Rational is subjective. To Trump and the right, the only rational explanation is it was carried lut by the left. They just can't deal with the possibility that it was their own who killed Kirk.

Gov Cox (not exactly Mr MAGA) who is leading the investigation said the killer was indoctrinated online by leftist ideology on every Sunday show. How was he one of their own?

I just read an article that investigators are pointing to gaming and the dark internet subculture as the source of that indoctrination. Even Cox recently made that reference. It doesn’t seem unlikely that they misunderstood the nature of the radicalization early on by thinking in conventional terms (investigators probably understood). Hopefully the poster who was celebrating yesterday about wasting “350 pages” on the topic sticks around.

The governor cited Reddit as an example of the deep, dark internet. He has no idea what he’s talking about.

I get where you're coming from, but if you go full circle, Reddit is like a lounge for the freaks that live online. It isn't where they discuss assassination plots, but it is most definitely where they go to circle jerk and echo chamber. Spend any time on the DC sub and you'll quickly see you aren't one of the cool kids unless you drink the kool aid of bike lanes, mass transit, all things gay and black and on and on with all the predictables.

LOL, equating a more positive and sustainable urban built environment with the dark corners of reddit and discord.

Way to miss the point.

Nah, not missing the point. You are willfully trying to equate Nick Fuentes with "leftist" urban aims.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So the left angle is just bs?

I think all we have heard thus far is BS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So the left angle is just bs?

Yes, it is Kesh Patel flooding the zone with BS to muddy the waters on the actual facts that are known to date.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like the guy was struggling with being gay. The Mormon church hates gay people. Conservatives are currently at war with the LGBTQ community. When you’re trying to come to terms with who you are, these external factors of pure unadulterated hatred sure don’t make it easy.

Kirk shouldn’t have been shot but it isn’t like he did much good in the world either.

The alt-right attracts a surprising amount of young gay men. It’s complicated, but a lot of the values of that community align with the right (particularly the glorifying of masculinity). LGBTQ are more accepted in society nowadays, so civil rights isn’t at the forefront of their concerns. I don’t think they’re aware of how precarious their position is. There must be some cognitive dissonance that goes on when conservative leaders throw them under the bus.

But Tyler is not gay.

He sucks d*ck. That makes him gay.

More repressed sex fantasies from maga.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So the left angle is just bs?

People believe (or refuse to believe) whatever suits their own politics, regardless of the evidence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like the guy was struggling with being gay. The Mormon church hates gay people. Conservatives are currently at war with the LGBTQ community. When you’re trying to come to terms with who you are, these external factors of pure unadulterated hatred sure don’t make it easy.

Kirk shouldn’t have been shot but it isn’t like he did much good in the world either.

The alt-right attracts a surprising amount of young gay men. It’s complicated, but a lot of the values of that community align with the right (particularly the glorifying of masculinity). LGBTQ are more accepted in society nowadays, so civil rights isn’t at the forefront of their concerns. I don’t think they’re aware of how precarious their position is. There must be some cognitive dissonance that goes on when conservative leaders throw them under the bus.

But Tyler is not gay.

He sucks d*ck. That makes him gay.

And you know this how?

The PP does not know this and can not know this because no such evidence has been produced.

Which means the PP is either a demented, naive fool, who belives every single thing his tribe says,

Or the PP is a demented liar who doesn't care about the truth.

But one thing the PP is absolutely not is someone in full command of conclusive evidence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the left angle is just bs?

People believe (or refuse to believe) whatever suits their own politics, regardless of the evidence.

There isn’t credible evidence.