Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:Kirk died a violent death and that's not good. Still, he said really toxic stuff. I don't feel that my right to say so should be impugned. Didn't like his views. Thought he was bad news. I can't believe that in America, people are losing their jobs over that basic right. I think Donald Trump is a douche too. That does not mean I want someone to attack him. I don't. But I also don't want anyone limiting my right to say he is a douche.

I agree but the issue is that we have otherwise sane and logical people literally cheering his killing.

I’ve seen so many disgusting comments from people I work with and friends. It terrifies me to see this kind of hatred is inside them for another human.

If you want to be mourned in death, live a better life. It is as simple as that. Most people view this as a case of F’d Around and Found Out.

So you are ok with someone killing another human because we don’t like what they say or believe?

I hate the message he was spreading but I don’t think that it’s right to kill another person for what they say.

No. But according to Charlie himself, gun deaths are the price we need to pay for freedom. Of course he probably thought that trans people, six year olds, and gangbangers were appropriate sacrifices to the God of the Second Amendment and never expected to see himself added to the pile of corpses. But there he is, and I’m not terribly sad about it.

Now, you can try to use my lack of caring as a reason to put a bullet in my own head and starve my babies. But what does that say about you? I’ll tell you - nothing good.

I’m not saying you have to mourn him or even give a crap.

What I see as an issue is people are cheerfully celebrating his murder.

And I see people lionizing a truly horrible man and demanding that people grieve him. Let the record be clear - on his best day, he was extremely divisive. He made his nut saying horrible things about people, saying that people deserved to die or get attacked.

People can regret the way he was killed and still be glad there is one less person like him spewing his filth into the world.

The same could be said for George Floyd's life choices but not allowed.

There’s about 12 million differences between George and Charlie’s life choices. And yet there are people who believe each deserved what they got in the end. But I can think of only one side that would like to do something about it other than bash skulls and get people fired.

If I recall, in the aftermath of George Floyd, I can only think of one side that did "do something about it." Specifically, burn cities, riot, loot, trespass, vandalize, and assault anyone trying to restore order or protect the public. Don't act like you have the high road here, you don't.

That’s what it took to finally get a murderer convicted. If you weren’t such racist POS cornballs that wouldn’t have been needed. Of course, small potatoes compared to Republican crimes against humanity and the economic warfare waged against Americans. Luckily for the billionaires they recruited a bunch of dumb hicks to vote for them.

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Anonymous wrote:Tyler Robinson is a radicalized leftist and yet another violent, pro-trans, assassin:

https://www.ngocomment.com/p/unmasking-luna-charlie-kirk-assassin

Think of what could have been if he hadn’t been twisted and abused by far right extremism. If only he had been allowed to become who he was.

We need to investigate all of the these religious cults.

Are you claiming he did not live up to his full extreme left potential? Maybe could have murdered more innocents for their right wing beliefs?

Nick Fuentes has repeatedly attacked Charlie Kirk—called him a neocon, globalist, and fascist. MAGA needs to accept there's a decent likelihood the shooter was influenced by that, or by Loomer's attacks, and not some made-up pro-trans ideology they've concocted.

Lol

You’re still hoping your Alt Right killing Alt Right for not being Alt Right enough for you to gloat over, is still a thing.

What a waste of space.

Seems more relevant than ever. Investigators are pointing to gaming and internet subculture for source of radicalization. Cox and Patel have loosely called that leftwing. We’ve seen no real evidence yet.

R u a bot?

You’re still hoping your Alt Right killing Alt Right for not being Alt Right enough for you to gloat over, is still a thing.

What a waste of space.

"Still, investigators have pointed to gaming and “dark internet” culture as potential factors that allegedly radicalized him based on information from family, friends, and acquaintances.

“Clearly, there was a lot of gaming going on, friends that have confirmed that there was kind of that deep, dark internet, Reddit culture and these other dark places of the internet where this person was going deep. You saw that on the casings … the meme-ification that is happening in our society today,” the Republican governor told NBC News, referencing the messages engraved on bullet casings in a rifle found near the deadly shooting.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/15/politics/investigation-charlie-kirk-killing-wwk

Yes we know he was radicalized by leftist gaming goons online and possibly in person friend groups.

No, we don't know.

The guy is still alive he can speak for himself anyway. He can't be used as a prop.

Sorry nope.
He’ll be his lawyer’s prop here on out.
Look for lots of: I don’t recall, I don’t remember, I don’t know.

The shooter has a fifth amendment right to remain silent and appears to be using it. Just like Charlie Kirk did.
https://www.newsweek.com/charlie-kirk-pleads-fifth-asked-his-age-jan-6-committee-1768952

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Anonymous wrote:Why do MAGA and Fox News women all look like Stepford wives? Is that their goal? Like they look like uncanny valley blow up dolls. Why do they do this?

It’s like some sort of reverse Portrait of Dorian Gray situation. Their faces increasingly reflect the dehumanization and degradation of the person inside.

It’s also why conservatives fear trans women so much. They can’t tell the difference.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do MAGA and Fox News women all look like Stepford wives? Is that their goal? Like they look like uncanny valley blow up dolls. Why do they do this?

It’s like some sort of reverse Portrait of Dorian Gray situation. Their faces increasingly reflect the dehumanization and degradation of the person inside.

It’s also why conservatives fear trans women so much. They can’t tell the difference.

Yes it’s the heavy, caked on theatrical stage makeup at all times, the fake lashes, heavy drawn on clownish brows, the cascading luscious locks of hair extensions, the mandatory breast implants. What is this sh!t?

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Anonymous wrote:Yep. Things have changed.

Nolte: Charlie Kirk’s Assassination Flipped a Remarkable Switch in the MAGA Movement

"All at once, we’ve become impervious to the media’s usual tricks with the dual revelation that 1) the media are irredeemable and not worth our time, and 2) through alternative and social media, we hold the power in our country.

Democrats and the media are calling for unity. In the past, we’ve fallen for that trap. But this time the switch flipped, and our collective voice said: Go away. You didn’t ask for unity during the George Floyd riots. You never ask for unity when it’s your side. You demand only fealty.

Democrats and the media are calling for us to tone it down. Another trap we’ve fallen into. Not this time. This time our collective voice said: Go away. You never demand that your side tone down the rhetoric. It’s only ever us, and when we do, when the best of us seeks to have a civil dialogue with you, you publicly execute him to terrorize the rest of us.

Democrats and the media are desperate to emotionally blackmail us as we seek accountability for those who celebrate murder. Ah, yes, the old “muh principles” trap. Collectively, we say: Go away. We saw what you did to a nobody rodeo clown who wore an Obama mask. You destroyed his career and made every Republican lawmaker answer for him. Today, there are literally thousands and thousands of credentialed Democrats (teachers, lawyers, academics, health care professionals, etc.) inciting murder against us by celebrating Charlie Kirk’s murder, and you’ve done nothing other than defend them.

Our collective responses are glorious, and the most important part is the “go away” part.

We’re done with the media. We don’t need them. We know they want us dead.

“They call us Nazis — what do you think they want to happen to us?” asks Kurt Schlichter.

We’re not them, and the terrible loss of a prince burned into us a moral clarity…

They loot and burn. We hold candlelight vigils.

They cheer violence and murder. We do not.

They champion and fund domestic terror groups like Antifa and Black Lives Matter. We do not.

They cancel and blacklist people over opinions. We seek long-overdue accountability for celebrating violence.

We hold the power now.

And we’re wielding it — peacefully, lawfully, relentlessly, and mercilessly.

Everything’s changed forever. Where this ultimately leads or how successful it will be, I can’t say. But at long last, we understand the mission, understand the enemy, have joined arms, and are on the march.

I’m not going to ready your stupid, lazy copy and paste opinions from X. If you have something to say in your own words, go ahead.

It’s just your standard cornball ‘rah rah’ fluff.

I seem to recall lots of re-enactments of the George Floyd murder being posted on social media by right wingers. One group did it right in front of a BLM parade.

They’re not fooling anyone with their grandstanding about “we’re just trying to have peaceful civil discourse, but the people who we keep trolling, mocking, dehumanizing, and calling to eliminate are such MEANIES”

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Anonymous wrote:Tyler Robinson is a radicalized leftist and yet another violent, pro-trans, assassin:

https://www.ngocomment.com/p/unmasking-luna-charlie-kirk-assassin

Think of what could have been if he hadn’t been twisted and abused by far right extremism. If only he had been allowed to become who he was.

We need to investigate all of the these religious cults.

Are you claiming he did not live up to his full extreme left potential? Maybe could have murdered more innocents for their right wing beliefs?

Nick Fuentes has repeatedly attacked Charlie Kirk—called him a neocon, globalist, and fascist. MAGA needs to accept there's a decent likelihood the shooter was influenced by that, or by Loomer's attacks, and not some made-up pro-trans ideology they've concocted.

Lol

You’re still hoping your Alt Right killing Alt Right for not being Alt Right enough for you to gloat over, is still a thing.

What a waste of space.

Seems more relevant than ever. Investigators are pointing to gaming and internet subculture for source of radicalization. Cox and Patel have loosely called that leftwing. We’ve seen no real evidence yet.

R u a bot?

You’re still hoping your Alt Right killing Alt Right for not being Alt Right enough for you to gloat over, is still a thing.

What a waste of space.

"Still, investigators have pointed to gaming and “dark internet” culture as potential factors that allegedly radicalized him based on information from family, friends, and acquaintances.

“Clearly, there was a lot of gaming going on, friends that have confirmed that there was kind of that deep, dark internet, Reddit culture and these other dark places of the internet where this person was going deep. You saw that on the casings … the meme-ification that is happening in our society today,” the Republican governor told NBC News, referencing the messages engraved on bullet casings in a rifle found near the deadly shooting.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/15/politics/investigation-charlie-kirk-killing-wwk

I use Reddit. I’m in the deep dark bowls of the internet.

Reddit, I think maybe used to have that reputation 12+ years ago. But now it’s mainstream and people use it for fantasy football and parenting advice. The age of the user base has grown up and some of the worst sub-Reddit’s have been permanently banned. (Which of course means that they’ve found homes elsewhere, but Reddit is fairly normal these days).

I love the plastic surgery subreddit. Lots of people post pictures, timelines, and answer questions about their procedures. There’s others I like as well but people are acting like it’s nothing but furries. I’m sure those subreddits exist but they don’t get shown to me.

Reddit is a leftist hellhole and a lot of the moderators are transgender and will permanently ban people or delete posts they don't agree with. Obviously there are normal forums on there but those aren't the ones this psychotic shooter was probably visiting.

The only things that get deleted on reddits are posts that violate their terms of service, which means the things getting deleted are overtly racaist (n word for example) or antisemitic (k word for example) or personal identifable attacks. Those are removed mostly by AI based on specific words. So if you are outraged that hateful and disparaging languages is autmatically removed, then I have a small violin to play for you.

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Anonymous wrote:A relative of the trans romantic partner said he started to act differently once he turned 18 and developed a hatred of conservatives and Christians. "He hates conservatives and Christians," the relative said. "He hated us. He was not raised that way, but he, over the years, has become really detached and been radicalized." "He has obviously gotten progressively worse the last year or two," the relative said, adding that he's "always very angry."

The relative suspects Robinson's politics were influenced by his partner in the year they have been dating. "I think Tyler got a whole lot worse in the year they have been dating. They are big [video] gamers, and obviously they have that group that influences them as well as others. But my gut tells me [the roommate] did more of the influencing," the relative said.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/charlie-kirk-assassins-transgender-roommate-hates-conservatives-christians-relative-says

Why would someone who hates Christians move to Utah? That makes no sense.

I believe nothing we are being told. It’s such bad lying.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do MAGA and Fox News women all look like Stepford wives? Is that their goal? Like they look like uncanny valley blow up dolls. Why do they do this?

It’s like some sort of reverse Portrait of Dorian Gray situation. Their faces increasingly reflect the dehumanization and degradation of the person inside.

It’s also why conservatives fear trans women so much. They can’t tell the difference.

LOL, yes

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Anonymous wrote:A relative of the trans romantic partner said he started to act differently once he turned 18 and developed a hatred of conservatives and Christians. "He hates conservatives and Christians," the relative said. "He hated us. He was not raised that way, but he, over the years, has become really detached and been radicalized." "He has obviously gotten progressively worse the last year or two," the relative said, adding that he's "always very angry."

The relative suspects Robinson's politics were influenced by his partner in the year they have been dating. "I think Tyler got a whole lot worse in the year they have been dating. They are big [video] gamers, and obviously they have that group that influences them as well as others. But my gut tells me [the roommate] did more of the influencing," the relative said.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/charlie-kirk-assassins-transgender-roommate-hates-conservatives-christians-relative-says

How convenient.

Considering the partner (Twiggs) is now transgender and into the furry culture my guess is that the relative is telling the truth whether you want to believe it or not. Twiggs also grew up in a conservative, Mormon household. It is not uncommon for those who grow up in a conservative, religious household to rebel and turn against it once they leave the house. Quite common among Mormons especially today with more young people leaving the religion. Utah has changed a lot over the years with more liberals moving into the state.

the "furry culture" is a right thing, not a left thing. That is a nuance most MAGAs and the Governor of Utah are not getting.

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t help the case when our fbi director prematurely Tweets out that ‘we got the guy!’ only to back peddle - - never mind, we got the guy now, really! surely will help his defense.

Kash is really effing up any chance at a federal case, which they seem to desperately want instead of a state case in Utah. Looooong thread with extensive details here https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1967635627203318200.html

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Anonymous wrote:No one saw Robinson shoot Kirk. There are zero witnesses, correct?

No one saw Trump lose 2020. There are no witnesses, correct?

So how can we accuse this person of shooting Kirk if there is no evidence? No witnesses? The only evidence we have is that he was on the roof for some reason.

And what if any evidence has been falsified? Witnesses are lying? Relays about what witnesses actually said (i.e. from the governor) are lies?

Sorry, but why would every witness lie?

Because we live in a toxic country now where the administration just put out hits on any liberal in the country, all in the name f Charlie Kirk. This corrupt administration is making Fetch happen.

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From where I sit, partisans on both sides have been itching to fight instead of finding common ground or looking internally to be better. You look for any excuse to have a civil war, so here we are.

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Anonymous wrote:Kirk died a violent death and that's not good. Still, he said really toxic stuff. I don't feel that my right to say so should be impugned. Didn't like his views. Thought he was bad news. I can't believe that in America, people are losing their jobs over that basic right. I think Donald Trump is a douche too. That does not mean I want someone to attack him. I don't. But I also don't want anyone limiting my right to say he is a douche.

I agree but the issue is that we have otherwise sane and logical people literally cheering his killing.

I’ve seen so many disgusting comments from people I work with and friends. It terrifies me to see this kind of hatred is inside them for another human.

So far I have seen posts of a trans humorist and an AI generated black man. Those are the "sane and logical people literally cheering his killing" and noting the awful things he said is not cheering his killing, particularly the quote about a few gun deaths is a fair price to pay for gun rights freedom. That is just his own words. If you find that hateful then look in the mirror.

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Anonymous wrote:No one saw Robinson shoot Kirk. There are zero witnesses, correct?

No one saw Trump lose 2020. There are no witnesses, correct?

So how can we accuse this person of shooting Kirk if there is no evidence? No witnesses? The only evidence we have is that he was on the roof for some reason.

And what if any evidence has been falsified? Witnesses are lying? Relays about what witnesses actually said (i.e. from the governor) are lies?

Sorry, but why would every witness lie?

Because we live in a toxic country now where the administration just put out hits on any liberal in the country, all in the name f Charlie Kirk. This corrupt administration is making Fetch happen.

No, no one saw it happen. They’re not all lying. There are no witnesses.

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Anonymous wrote:No one saw Robinson shoot Kirk. There are zero witnesses, correct?

No one saw Trump lose 2020. There are no witnesses, correct?

So how can we accuse this person of shooting Kirk if there is no evidence? No witnesses? The only evidence we have is that he was on the roof for some reason.

And what if any evidence has been falsified? Witnesses are lying? Relays about what witnesses actually said (i.e. from the governor) are lies?

Sorry, but why would every witness lie?

Because we live in a toxic country now where the administration just put out hits on any liberal in the country, all in the name f Charlie Kirk. This corrupt administration is making Fetch happen.

Say what? Vance clearly said extreme radical left wing elements even going as far as saying the rabid loony tune woman calling him a POS to his children at Disney probably was not probably not violent. I like how this is being framed here that they are going after Jon Stewart Pod Save America bro types. Wouldn't expect anything less really.