Lochte Robbery Story: True or False

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do we know what false statements he made to police ? What was the statement that cost him 11k

He didn't make any false statements to the police, because the police were never even called. The claim is that Lochte made a false claim about the police. He got back to the states and said that the police pulled them out of a taxi by the side of the road, pointed guns and demanded money.

Turns out that gas station attendants and/or security guards pulled them out of a taxi, pointed guns and demanded money, which they paid. But saying that it was police who pulled the guns was the crime worth $12K. Because making false claims against the police in Brazil is a serious offense.

Did he even say they were the police? I thought he just said dressed like the police or in police uniforms (which honestly security might look like that to a foreigner...)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do we know what false statements he made to police ? What was the statement that cost him 11k

He didn't make any false statements to the police, because the police were never even called. The claim is that Lochte made a false claim about the police. He got back to the states and said that the police pulled them out of a taxi by the side of the road, pointed guns and demanded money.

Turns out that gas station attendants and/or security guards pulled them out of a taxi, pointed guns and demanded money, which they paid. But saying that it was police who pulled the guns was the crime worth $12K. Because making false claims against the police in Brazil is a serious offense.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but he did not say it was the police pointing guns. He said it was someone showing a badge. (I had initially figured he thought it was men posing as police.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do we know what false statements he made to police ? What was the statement that cost him 11k

He didn't make any false statements to the police, because the police were never even called. The claim is that Lochte made a false claim about the police. He got back to the states and said that the police pulled them out of a taxi by the side of the road, pointed guns and demanded money.

Turns out that gas station attendants and/or security guards pulled them out of a taxi, pointed guns and demanded money, which they paid. But saying that it was police who pulled the guns was the crime worth $12K. Because making false claims against the police in Brazil is a serious offense.

Did he even say they were the police? I thought he just said dressed like the police or in police uniforms (which honestly security might look like that to a foreigner...)

I don't know what he said exactly because I wasn't paying attention to this story until several days after it broke. But the complaint from Brazilian authorities is that he said the police held them up at gunpoint. He was already back in the U.S. when the story went viral, so they went after the athletes still in the country, pulling them off the plane before they could return home. None of the athletes filed a report with police.

My view is that they were completely drunk (their behavior in the video shows this), were shocked to have guns pulled on them, assumed the gun wielders were police (because no gas station attendees would even have guns to pull in the U.S.) and were too intoxicated to know what really happened the next day. Lochte stupidly bragged about the incident and Feigen paid the cost.

[Anonymous]

Not that TMZ is the pillar of truth, but they're claiming Lochte et al continue to insist security DID pull the swimmers out of a cab at gunpoint, during the 3 minutes that was conveniently edited out of the surveillance footage, and that at the time the swimmers mistook security for police.

Personally, I can totally see how a bunch of wasted idiots would mistake security for police, maybe not even realize it was related to the "vandalism" since they already paid up for the poster, and then later to back and tell their mom/girlfriend about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do we know what false statements he made to police ? What was the statement that cost him 11k

He didn't make any false statements to the police, because the police were never even called. The claim is that Lochte made a false claim about the police. He got back to the states and said that the police pulled them out of a taxi by the side of the road, pointed guns and demanded money.

Turns out that gas station attendants and/or security guards pulled them out of a taxi, pointed guns and demanded money, which they paid. But saying that it was police who pulled the guns was the crime worth $12K. Because making false claims against the police in Brazil is a serious offense.

Did he even say they were the police? I thought he just said dressed like the police or in police uniforms (which honestly security might look like that to a foreigner...)

I don't know what he said exactly because I wasn't paying attention to this story until several days after it broke. But the complaint from Brazilian authorities is that he said the police held them up at gunpoint. He was already back in the U.S. when the story went viral, so they went after the athletes still in the country, pulling them off the plane before they could return home. None of the athletes filed a report with police.

My view is that they were completely drunk (their behavior in the video shows this), were shocked to have guns pulled on them, assumed the gun wielders were police (because no gas station attendees would even have guns to pull in the U.S.) and were too intoxicated to know what really happened the next day. Lochte stupidly bragged about the incident and Feigen paid the cost.

Yeah, I think you might be wrong. I don't think Lochte ever said it was the police who "robbed" them.

[Anonymous]

Funny, in the only US interview Feigen gave, he said they were robbed by someone dressed like police.

But then the Brazilian police come out and say he made it all up, and offer all this wacky insight into his thinking, and then have some bizarro excuse about special Olympic plea bargains.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do we know what false statements he made to police ? What was the statement that cost him 11k

He didn't make any false statements to the police, because the police were never even called. The claim is that Lochte made a false claim about the police. He got back to the states and said that the police pulled them out of a taxi by the side of the road, pointed guns and demanded money.

Turns out that gas station attendants and/or security guards pulled them out of a taxi, pointed guns and demanded money, which they paid. But saying that it was police who pulled the guns was the crime worth $12K. Because making false claims against the police in Brazil is a serious offense.

Ryan never said the police did this he said " these guys came out with a badge, a police badge no lights no nothing just a police badge." He never actually called the guys police officers just that these guys pulled out a police badge.

[Anonymous]

False allegation against the police is the "crime" for which they pulled the remaining athletes off the plane, withheld their passports and denied their exit from the country.

[Anonymous]

I'm watching Lochte's interview with Matt Lauer right now. He's talking about his "immature tantics."

He's so painfully stupid I almost feel sorry for him.

[Anonymous]

OMG. He should never have agreed to do this interview. I'm sure his attorney/PR guys tried to prep him but he's just unteachable and dumb as he sits there and talks about his "tantics" and shenanigans and keeps saying he was intoxicated and hadn't had any drinks in the months leading to the Olympics so he was really intoxicated but doesn't want to blame his intoxication . . . .

I feel like sponsors who may have been willing to let this blow over and give him the benefit of the doubt may be thinking hard after they watch this interview Monday morning in their corporate boardrooms.

[Anonymous]

OMG! His interview is so embarrassing I almost wished he'd kept his mouth shut.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OMG. He should never have agreed to do this interview. I'm sure his attorney/PR guys tried to prep him but he's just unteachable and dumb as he sits there and talks about his "tantics" and shenanigans and keeps saying he was intoxicated and hadn't had any drinks in the months leading to the Olympics so he was really intoxicated but doesn't want to blame his intoxication . . . .

I feel like sponsors who may have been willing to let this blow over and give him the benefit of the doubt may be thinking hard after they watch this interview Monday morning in their corporate boardrooms.

Why doesn't he take a page out of Gunnar Bentz and Jack Conger's playbook --it happened; it wasn't as first reported; we're sooooo sorry and it will never happen again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OMG! His interview is so embarrassing I almost wished he'd kept his mouth shut.

+100. He seems to have the mental acuity of a teen boy called to the principals office who tries to speak slowly in order to show that he's confidently making a valid point -- even though he isn't. And says words like "tantics."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OMG! His interview is so embarrassing I almost wished he'd kept his mouth shut.

I think he did the interview partially as an attempt to fall on his sword if you will. I suspect he really and truly isn't a smart person. I don't think it's cool to make fun of him for that. I won't be teaching my kids to make fun of peers who are dumber than them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG! His interview is so embarrassing I almost wished he'd kept his mouth shut.

I think he did the interview partially as an attempt to fall on his sword if you will. I suspect he really and truly isn't a smart person. I don't think it's cool to make fun of him for that. I won't be teaching my kids to make fun of peers who are dumber than them.

You act like we're mocking him for a bad gpa or low SAT scores. This is about being a good human - you don't have to be a genius to be an upstanding human. How hard is it to say -- I lied; I was wrong; it'll never happen again; I hope USA Swimming and my sponsors give me a 2nd chance but I'll live with the consequences bc I know I did the wrong thing. Period. Get in, get out, and let the chips fall where they will. Sitting there making excuses about immaturity or intoxication or well - depends on how you look at it . . . is NOT falling on your sword.