What do we think will happen on Monday?

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Anonymous wrote:Moreover - in all my years on this site, FCPS parents have shown themselves to be the most self-important and aggrieved about school closures, often demanding openings when NO other district does and griping at length about legitimate closures. Yet this majority of this thread is commentary of people saying their streets aren’t passable, sidewalks are blocked, how will people drive in reduced lanes, etc etc. If THAT is the tenor of the postings here, those concerns are almost certainly broadly shared by the people who are liable for school transportation-related injuries or accidents and are in charge of determining when/if it’s safe to open.

You never know who is posting on here. Could be Gatehouse or teachers posing as parents who just want another day off.

Really, grow up. Teachers enjoy snow days like anyone else but most of us are also parents so we want our kids back in school as much as anyone else AND I don’t think any of us are enthused about the idea of closures and the cascade of issues that come from things that have to be shifted as a result continuing into another week. There’s federal and state testing going on, remediation and prep for state testing that is coming, school events that aren’t easily moved. It’s so dumb and juvenile to just pretend teachers sit on here pretending to be something they’re not.

No, teachers get unearned PTO and are not required to find childcare during snow days, or go to work regardless of the conditions. No other profession gets that. You don’t enjoy snow days “like anyone else” and so please check your privilege.

I’m a teacher in my 20s who lives with roommates who are all consultants who can work remote. My roommates worked less this snow week than I did lol.

So your roommates aren’t either of the referenced groups— parents responsible for finding childcare or people required to go to work. Check your privilege because you’re contributing to the narrative of entitlement.

Stop slinging the word privilege around. It’s old and tired. Get over your obstacles and find some resilience instead of finger pointing at someone because their obstacles and advantages are different from yours.

Privilege is the correct word here: people who will face no financial or professional consequences advocating for long term closures because it’s beneficial to themselves, while disregarding the impact on others.

I can easily get my kid to school. But not if gatehouse decides to privilege teachers over students again.

You’re the reason we have a far right president.

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Anonymous wrote:I just went to APS forum to see what they are saying.

Zero debate on this topic and dead thread.

That thread about APS was last updated yesterday afternoon. I’d hardly call that “zero debate.”

This kind of incident is horrible and increases in likelihood with the current one lane road situations.

April 28, 2005 ARLINGTON, Va. — Law agencies and transportation safety officials have begun investigations into the cause of an accident between a school bus and a trash hauler that left two students dead and injured 15 others last Monday.

According to The Washington Post, investigators closed the intersection where the accident took place for nearly four hours while trying to determine how the two vehicles were positioned at the time of the collision.

Police said sifting through the evidence and analyzing the results of the reenactment could take weeks or longer.

The collision killed 9-year-old Lilibeth Gomez, a third-grader at Hoffman-Boston Elementary School, instantly. Harrison Orosco, 7, died Wednesday at a local hospital from a severe head injury. The drivers of the two vehicles survived but required surgery for wounds they suffered in the collision.

There aren’t great solutions but hopefully everyone will be kinder to each other than they are on here tomorrow as the kiss and rides will be HORRIBLE!

Really? An article from 2005 about a dead child. A new low.

History is a warning - always. Be a better person and show some compassion. This may have happened 20 years ago, but it is still heartbreaking.

How was snow and ice a factor in an accident that occurred in APRIL??? Traffic accidents can unfortunately happen at any time. Please try to be a little intellectually honest here!

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Anonymous wrote:Moreover - in all my years on this site, FCPS parents have shown themselves to be the most self-important and aggrieved about school closures, often demanding openings when NO other district does and griping at length about legitimate closures. Yet this majority of this thread is commentary of people saying their streets aren’t passable, sidewalks are blocked, how will people drive in reduced lanes, etc etc. If THAT is the tenor of the postings here, those concerns are almost certainly broadly shared by the people who are liable for school transportation-related injuries or accidents and are in charge of determining when/if it’s safe to open.

You never know who is posting on here. Could be Gatehouse or teachers posing as parents who just want another day off.

Really, grow up. Teachers enjoy snow days like anyone else but most of us are also parents so we want our kids back in school as much as anyone else AND I don’t think any of us are enthused about the idea of closures and the cascade of issues that come from things that have to be shifted as a result continuing into another week. There’s federal and state testing going on, remediation and prep for state testing that is coming, school events that aren’t easily moved. It’s so dumb and juvenile to just pretend teachers sit on here pretending to be something they’re not.

No, teachers get unearned PTO and are not required to find childcare during snow days, or go to work regardless of the conditions. No other profession gets that. You don’t enjoy snow days “like anyone else” and so please check your privilege.

I’m a teacher in my 20s who lives with roommates who are all consultants who can work remote. My roommates worked less this snow week than I did lol.

So your roommates aren’t either of the referenced groups— parents responsible for finding childcare or people required to go to work. Check your privilege because you’re contributing to the narrative of entitlement.

Calm down. You said “no other profession” enjoyed the snow days so I just pointed out that some of the highest paid professions in the area let you work from home. It’s bonkers to try to dunk on teachers as some privileged class in Fairfax County.

When it comes to wanting schools closed, teachers are a privileged class. They get to stay home and get paid for doing nothing!

I’m a teacher. I’ve worked every single day since the snow and ice started falling, including weekends. I’m taking a break from work now just to write this!
PLEASE follow me around for a day. Any day. Then tell me I do nothing.

I know mocking and insulting teachers is a sport on this site, but I’m tired of it. Find something better to do with your time. Go shovel out a narrow street. Then maybe we can get schools open and you can stop complaining about lazy teachers. Heck, this lazy teacher will even join you once I complete my plans for tomorrow.

Huh I’m not a teacher hater but confused. You had enough work to fill 3 8-hour days you would have been in school teaching? I presume you will say grading? If you are also working weekends, when would you have fit in all this grading if school had been open if you’re already working 7 days a week?

I don’t get it done easily. That’s the whole point.

130 essays x 15 minutes an essay: 32 hours of sustained grading.

My students submitted essays right before the snow hit. I actually had a week to get them done. Usually I have to add 2-3 hours a night for two weeks on top of my regular evening work to get through a stack. In this case, the snow gave me a chance to get it done in a week.

So no, I’m not going to sit here and be called lazy. I’m over the insults, which make me wonder why I’m giving up so much of my time when people are so insulting and unappreciative.

I knew you must be a high school teacher assigning writing. I appreciate this must take a long time to grade and most teachers hardly assign any writing as a result. Thanks for doing it. Writing is single biggest weakness in public school curriculum.

I’m not the PP but I am an English teacher. God bless you.

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Anonymous wrote:Moreover - in all my years on this site, FCPS parents have shown themselves to be the most self-important and aggrieved about school closures, often demanding openings when NO other district does and griping at length about legitimate closures. Yet this majority of this thread is commentary of people saying their streets aren’t passable, sidewalks are blocked, how will people drive in reduced lanes, etc etc. If THAT is the tenor of the postings here, those concerns are almost certainly broadly shared by the people who are liable for school transportation-related injuries or accidents and are in charge of determining when/if it’s safe to open.

You never know who is posting on here. Could be Gatehouse or teachers posing as parents who just want another day off.

Really, grow up. Teachers enjoy snow days like anyone else but most of us are also parents so we want our kids back in school as much as anyone else AND I don’t think any of us are enthused about the idea of closures and the cascade of issues that come from things that have to be shifted as a result continuing into another week. There’s federal and state testing going on, remediation and prep for state testing that is coming, school events that aren’t easily moved. It’s so dumb and juvenile to just pretend teachers sit on here pretending to be something they’re not.

No, teachers get unearned PTO and are not required to find childcare during snow days, or go to work regardless of the conditions. No other profession gets that. You don’t enjoy snow days “like anyone else” and so please check your privilege.

I’m a teacher in my 20s who lives with roommates who are all consultants who can work remote. My roommates worked less this snow week than I did lol.

So your roommates aren’t either of the referenced groups— parents responsible for finding childcare or people required to go to work. Check your privilege because you’re contributing to the narrative of entitlement.

Calm down. You said “no other profession” enjoyed the snow days so I just pointed out that some of the highest paid professions in the area let you work from home. It’s bonkers to try to dunk on teachers as some privileged class in Fairfax County.

When it comes to wanting schools closed, teachers are a privileged class. They get to stay home and get paid for doing nothing!

Wow I think it's commendable that you are not embarrassed by your stupidity. You just put it all out there huh-feeling proud. You should see the what teachers and staff deal with at schools. If you want to go after someone genius start with Gatehouse and all the money that is wasted at the top. Privileged you are a joke.

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Such bunch of ridiculous weaklings. Unsafe walkway. Why are children forbidden to trip or fall.

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Anonymous wrote:Moreover - in all my years on this site, FCPS parents have shown themselves to be the most self-important and aggrieved about school closures, often demanding openings when NO other district does and griping at length about legitimate closures. Yet this majority of this thread is commentary of people saying their streets aren’t passable, sidewalks are blocked, how will people drive in reduced lanes, etc etc. If THAT is the tenor of the postings here, those concerns are almost certainly broadly shared by the people who are liable for school transportation-related injuries or accidents and are in charge of determining when/if it’s safe to open.

You never know who is posting on here. Could be Gatehouse or teachers posing as parents who just want another day off.

Really, grow up. Teachers enjoy snow days like anyone else but most of us are also parents so we want our kids back in school as much as anyone else AND I don’t think any of us are enthused about the idea of closures and the cascade of issues that come from things that have to be shifted as a result continuing into another week. There’s federal and state testing going on, remediation and prep for state testing that is coming, school events that aren’t easily moved. It’s so dumb and juvenile to just pretend teachers sit on here pretending to be something they’re not.

No, teachers get unearned PTO and are not required to find childcare during snow days, or go to work regardless of the conditions. No other profession gets that. You don’t enjoy snow days “like anyone else” and so please check your privilege.

I’m a teacher in my 20s who lives with roommates who are all consultants who can work remote. My roommates worked less this snow week than I did lol.

So your roommates aren’t either of the referenced groups— parents responsible for finding childcare or people required to go to work. Check your privilege because you’re contributing to the narrative of entitlement.

Calm down. You said “no other profession” enjoyed the snow days so I just pointed out that some of the highest paid professions in the area let you work from home. It’s bonkers to try to dunk on teachers as some privileged class in Fairfax County.

When it comes to wanting schools closed, teachers are a privileged class. They get to stay home and get paid for doing nothing!

I’m a teacher. I’ve worked every single day since the snow and ice started falling, including weekends. I’m taking a break from work now just to write this!
PLEASE follow me around for a day. Any day. Then tell me I do nothing.

I know mocking and insulting teachers is a sport on this site, but I’m tired of it. Find something better to do with your time. Go shovel out a narrow street. Then maybe we can get schools open and you can stop complaining about lazy teachers. Heck, this lazy teacher will even join you once I complete my plans for tomorrow.

Huh I’m not a teacher hater but confused. You had enough work to fill 3 8-hour days you would have been in school teaching? I presume you will say grading? If you are also working weekends, when would you have fit in all this grading if school had been open if you’re already working 7 days a week?

I don’t get it done easily. That’s the whole point.

130 essays x 15 minutes an essay: 32 hours of sustained grading.

My students submitted essays right before the snow hit. I actually had a week to get them done. Usually I have to add 2-3 hours a night for two weeks on top of my regular evening work to get through a stack. In this case, the snow gave me a chance to get it done in a week.

So no, I’m not going to sit here and be called lazy. I’m over the insults, which make me wonder why I’m giving up so much of my time when people are so insulting and unappreciative.

I knew you must be a high school teacher assigning writing. I appreciate this must take a long time to grade and most teachers hardly assign any writing as a result. Thanks for doing it. Writing is single biggest weakness in public school curriculum.

My daughter's English teacher (in Grade 7) assigns a lot of writing. Every week, they have at least one short piece of writing due, and it is always related to the story or article they're reading. They also have at least one major essay due each quarter. Every one of those essays and short responses gets graded and herteacher leaves at least one comment on everything my daughter writes. The essays get lots of feedback, comments, and corrections.

In history, my daughter writes journal entries almost every day, and they also write argumentative essays related to what they've been studying. The teacher gives very detailed feedback and corrections. It is impressive to hear my daughter be able to make very well-supported arguments about historical topics, and I credit her history teacher for teaching her how to do that.

At least at my daughter's school, writing is a huge part of the curriculum in at least two classes. I am very happy to see it!

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Normal operations, delay, closure, early dismissal, or whatever it is, FCPS needs to make a decision like yesterday. Tomorrow’s conditions are not going to be any different than yesterday or the day before. I’m sure most FCPS parents are willing to be flexible and nimble—we can absolutely play chess, chew gum, and walk at the same time—but damnit give us as much time possible to do so!

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A pedestrian died yesterday in Centreville - “Officers are on scene of a death investigation near Route 29 and Rydell Road in Centreville. Preliminarily, an adult male has been found unresponsive near the roadway.”

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Anonymous wrote:A pedestrian died yesterday in Centreville - “Officers are on scene of a death investigation near Route 29 and Rydell Road in Centreville. Preliminarily, an adult male has been found unresponsive near the roadway.”

Happens all the time, even in the summer

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Anonymous wrote:A pedestrian died yesterday in Centreville - “Officers are on scene of a death investigation near Route 29 and Rydell Road in Centreville. Preliminarily, an adult male has been found unresponsive near the roadway.”

A helicopter crashed two days ago after running into a powerline.

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Anonymous wrote:2 hour delay is almost certain for Monday, probably Tuesday as well. I doubt FCPS will be closed b/c of the PR problem, though I do worry about people getting hurt as the volume of people trying to navigate the snowcrete increases and more students (including youngkids walking/waiting for buses in the streets AND teen drivers) are out in the mix. Would be safest to stay closed Mon, delay opening Tues, and hope the increased temps make things safe from then on.

The ice out there will be here until March. One or two days with a high above freezing while the lows are still well below won't even phase it. What some of you are advocating for schools to be closed for a month. Insanity. It won't look any different on Monday morning than it will on Tuesday, or a week from now. Some of you will just have to be inconvenienced and drive your kids to school - maybe even carpool like was asked of you. It isn't that hard.

All right DCUM, help me figure this out.
How many sidewalks of the elderly/lazy have you shoveled?

Personally, I just did ours and 1 others. I drew the line at doing the military families sidewalks. In all 3 houses, their male HOH/military members who llive within sight on my streetsdidn’t bother shoveling, so I didn’t think I should do it for them. Now, are they still okay because the families are military? They didn’t have community spirit and made shoveling seem hard by not doing it. I’m not sure which sacrifice should be in front of which…

How many kids are you bringing from the neighborhood to school each day?

How will your boss feel when you run late? (Or do you not work which makes it REALLY easy to say this isn’t hard to do)

How will you feel when it is your child’s teacher turn to play school bus and they are late?

Interesting. Military family here. We helped shovel neighbors out up and down our street. I’m not sure what you’re saying about community spirit, but I feel we have plenty to spare.

I have a neighbor who didn’t help at all. Should I disparage his entire profession? Or should I have neighborly spirit and recognize I don’t know his circumstances, so maybe I shouldn’t judge. Hmm.

Same.

Our neighborhood's military families, parents and kids, completely shoveled their sidewalks/driveways (full width to the concrete) and many of their neighbors. Even the 60+ year old retired military people shoveled. Our neighborhood with just a few exceptions, all non military younger empry nesters, is completely shoveled and has been for most of the week.

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Anonymous wrote:Normal operations, delay, closure, early dismissal, or whatever it is, FCPS needs to make a decision like yesterday. Tomorrow’s conditions are not going to be any different than yesterday or the day before. I’m sure most FCPS parents are willing to be flexible and nimble—we can absolutely play chess, chew gum, and walk at the same time—but damnit give us as much time possible to do so!

Yes! Could have made the decision with info known yesterday.

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Anonymous wrote:How many buses have been checked out and started this week? Do you really think that has happened?
Have they all been cleared of ice?
Have you seen the idiots driving on the road with ice on top of their cars?

I saw someone try to drive on three foot wall of ice on the side of the road rather than break down the ice on the side. If there had not been someone driving behind me, I would have stopped to see what happened. I was afraid she was going to tip over.

Monday opening would be a mistake.

On the note of driving on those ice mounds, unlike with snow banks, if you hit those ice banks with your tire at just the wrong angle and speed, it will launch your car up and off the road. If it happens on a bridge it could launch your car into the river below. It happened in a neighboring town where I grew up following an ice storm like this, where a family car clipped the ice bank, shot over the guardrail, and one of their kids drowned.

Don't drive up on these ice banks. It might not end well.

Lol

You are laughing about a 13 year old kid drowning when her parent's front tire hit the ice bank on the side of a bridge, launching his truck into the river below?

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Anonymous wrote:How many buses have been checked out and started this week? Do you really think that has happened?
Have they all been cleared of ice?
Have you seen the idiots driving on the road with ice on top of their cars?

I saw someone try to drive on three foot wall of ice on the side of the road rather than break down the ice on the side. If there had not been someone driving behind me, I would have stopped to see what happened. I was afraid she was going to tip over.

Monday opening would be a mistake.

On the note of driving on those ice mounds, unlike with snow banks, if you hit those ice banks with your tire at just the wrong angle and speed, it will launch your car up and off the road. If it happens on a bridge it could launch your car into the river below. It happened in a neighboring town where I grew up following an ice storm like this, where a family car clipped the ice bank, shot over the guardrail, and one of their kids drowned.

Don't drive up on these ice banks. It might not end well.

Lol

You are laughing about a 13 year old kid drowning when her parent's front tire hit the ice bank on the side of a bridge, launching his truck into the river below?

Not this poster but they are likely laughing at your shameless fear mongering and tragedy porn. Just a guess.

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Anonymous wrote:Normal operations, delay, closure, early dismissal, or whatever it is, FCPS needs to make a decision like yesterday. Tomorrow’s conditions are not going to be any different than yesterday or the day before. I’m sure most FCPS parents are willing to be flexible and nimble—we can absolutely play chess, chew gum, and walk at the same time—but damnit give us as much time possible to do so!

Yes! Could have made the decision with info known yesterday.

Yep, I was hanging out with a friend from Anne Arundel county yesterday and they announced 2 hour delays for Monday and Tuesday yesterday (Saturday). Come on FCPS - it's time to decide.