How long will the shutdown last?

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[Post New]01/07/2019 20:26
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Anonymous wrote:Trump decided IRS refunds will be issued...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/white-house-rules-it-can-issue-tax-refunds-during-shutdown-plans-to-bring-back-some-irs-employees/2019/01/07/c1dfafc8-12c0-11e9-b6ad-9cfd62dbb0a8_story.html?utm_term=.d4e699c3cff5


Does this mean IRS workers will be working without pay?

Also how can they legally issue refunds without appropriations? Not a lawyer but this doesn’t smell right



Refunds do not come from appropriated funds but the workers’ pay does. The lawyers are bending over backwards to make it happen.

Are they going to do this every time someone complains about not receiving a government service (small business loan approval, EPA permit) or a government issued payment? Make federal workers provide these services and process the payments without pay.


Basically, you’re saying anything that could embarrass Trump would be made essential. At that rate (and I don’t doubt it will happen), all government functions will be made essential. We’d have the entire government up and running like normal except no one will be getting paid. For month. Or years.
[Post New]01/07/2019 21:53
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It looks like Trump aides are laying the ground work for the state of emergency to push the wall. Truly appalling. Will this push the GOP in Congress to grow a pair?!
[Post New]01/07/2019 21:55
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Anonymous wrote:It looks like Trump aides are laying the ground work for the state of emergency to push the wall. Truly appalling. Will this push the GOP in Congress to grow a pair?!


He hexdecides to to this, what does that mean for the shutdown?
[Post New]01/07/2019 22:03
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Anonymous wrote:It looks like Trump aides are laying the ground work for the state of emergency to push the wall. Truly appalling. Will this push the GOP in Congress to grow a pair?!


Doubt it. McConnel has pretty much given all power to Trump. He would be happy to have a dictatorship.
[Post New]01/07/2019 22:04
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Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:It looks like Trump aides are laying the ground work for the state of emergency to push the wall. Truly appalling. Will this push the GOP in Congress to grow a pair?!


Doubt it. McConnel has pretty much given all power to Trump. He would be happy to have a dictatorship.


Why? Why doesn’t he have a spine? Or a brain?
[Post New]01/07/2019 22:08
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Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:It looks like Trump aides are laying the ground work for the state of emergency to push the wall. Truly appalling. Will this push the GOP in Congress to grow a pair?!


Doubt it. McConnel has pretty much given all power to Trump. He would be happy to have a dictatorship.


Why? Why doesn’t he have a spine? Or a brain?

Because he is actually a species of slimy worm called wantibus taxcuticus.
[Post New]01/07/2019 22:10
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:It looks like Trump aides are laying the ground work for the state of emergency to push the wall. Truly appalling. Will this push the GOP in Congress to grow a pair?!


Doubt it. McConnel has pretty much given all power to Trump. He would be happy to have a dictatorship.


Why? Why doesn’t he have a spine? Or a brain?

Because he’s bought off.
[Post New]01/07/2019 22:13
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Anonymous
Now the wall is a midwest steel/jobs program.

#winning
[Post New]01/07/2019 22:15
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It will last until Pelosi agrees to compromise.
[Post New]01/07/2019 22:17
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Anonymous wrote:It will last until Pelosi agrees to compromise.


Trump doesn’t accept compromise. He only accepts deals where he gets everything and they get nothing. He’s had deals before and he rejected them. He does t want compromise. Trump sucks at deal making.
[Post New]01/07/2019 22:19
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Anonymous wrote:It will last until Pelosi agrees to compromise.


Trump doesn’t accept compromise. He only accepts deals where he gets everything and they get nothing. He’s had deals before and he rejected them. He does t want compromise. Trump sucks at deal making.


No. He did not get a deal on this before.
[Post New]01/07/2019 22:21
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Anonymous wrote:It will last until Pelosi agrees to compromise.

No giving in to orange toddler tantrums.
[Post New]01/07/2019 22:25
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Anonymous wrote:It will last until Pelosi agrees to compromise.


Trump doesn’t accept compromise. He only accepts deals where he gets everything and they get nothing. He’s had deals before and he rejected them. He does t want compromise. Trump sucks at deal making.


No. He did not get a deal on this before.


Last year, 25 billion for the wall.
[Post New]01/07/2019 22:40
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https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/424263-trump-supporter-complains-shutdown-is-not-hurting-the-people-he

Corrections officers from Florida have had to commute 400 miles to the site of the prison since then for two-week stints in their jobs. As of this week, the corrections officers are now doing so without being paid.
[Post New]01/07/2019 22:55
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Anonymous
So if Trump can simply declare an emergency to get money for the wall, tell me again why the government is shutdown?
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