How long will the shutdown last?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Vet raised 18million dollars from regular old Joe Shmoes, and you still think the people don't want a wall?

I'm glad all of you on the east coast wearing your suits and ties know what REAL people want. Get a grip and come down south


Where is the south you are referring to? The people along the land without a wall do not want it. The elected a congressman who explicitly campaigned against the wall. My guess is you are in a rural area that takes more from the feds than it gives and are unaffected by illegal immigration.




Those ranchers don’t want to lose the land in those areas either.
Anonymous
Apparently the networks won’t carry his address tomorrow. Lol!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Apparently the networks won’t carry his address tomorrow. Lol!


Woohoo
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Apparently the networks won’t carry his address tomorrow. Lol!


Finally. Don’t show the fake news.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Vet raised 18million dollars from regular old Joe Shmoes, and you still think the people don't want a wall?

I'm glad all of you on the east coast wearing your suits and ties know what REAL people want. Get a grip and come down south


Well, first, the majority of Americans do not want a wall. https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2590

Second, I hope you’re not implying that east coast Americans wearing suits and ties aren’t “REAL” people. Why would what they want be any less real or important than what Americans in the south, or anywhere else in this country want? I’ve lived in the northeast, on the west coast, in the south, and in the DC area. I’ve lived and worked in urban areas, suburbaban areas and rural areas. I assure you, there are real people in all those places.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Call your congressmen/women and senators and tell them to vote for border security that includes a barrier.

My Senators are gathering support to block all Senate business until McConnell brings the Senate bill that passed unanimously weeks ago to the floor for a new vote.

Van Hollen’s got a bunch of other Senators behind him.
Booker-NJ
Cardin-MD
Carper-DE
Durbin-IL
Feinstein-CA
Harris-CA
Kaine-VA
Markey-MA
Murphy-CT
Peters-MI
Sanders-VT
Schatz-HI
Schumer-NY
Stabenow-MI
Warner-VA
Warren-MA
Wyden-OR
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump decided IRS refunds will be issued...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/white-house-rules-it-can-issue-tax-refunds-during-shutdown-plans-to-bring-back-some-irs-employees/2019/01/07/c1dfafc8-12c0-11e9-b6ad-9cfd62dbb0a8_story.html?utm_term=.d4e699c3cff5


Does this mean IRS workers will be working without pay?


Well, I think it’s likely a bunch of lawsuits will result. So who knows if they’ll be forced to work without pay? Assuming they can even get anyone to come back to work. You have to understand that these are seasonal employees. A season at the IRS can be anything from 3 months to all year depending on a variety of things including but not limited to seniority and workload. Some of these employees may have been released last June and worked another job or are taking care of kids/grandkids. A lot of retired people work at these places as something to do for a few months out of the year (such as opening mail) and as a way to make some extra money. You might have some trouble getting someone that’s not working and not being paid to come back for tax season to work and not be paid.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump decided IRS refunds will be issued...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/white-house-rules-it-can-issue-tax-refunds-during-shutdown-plans-to-bring-back-some-irs-employees/2019/01/07/c1dfafc8-12c0-11e9-b6ad-9cfd62dbb0a8_story.html?utm_term=.d4e699c3cff5


Does this mean IRS workers will be working without pay?

Also how can they legally issue refunds without appropriations? Not a lawyer but this doesn’t smell right
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump decided IRS refunds will be issued...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/white-house-rules-it-can-issue-tax-refunds-during-shutdown-plans-to-bring-back-some-irs-employees/2019/01/07/c1dfafc8-12c0-11e9-b6ad-9cfd62dbb0a8_story.html?utm_term=.d4e699c3cff5


Does this mean IRS workers will be working without pay?

Also how can they legally issue refunds without appropriations? Not a lawyer but this doesn’t smell right


They can't. Trump doesn't know anything about appropriations law. Apparently neither does Pence.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump decided IRS refunds will be issued...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/white-house-rules-it-can-issue-tax-refunds-during-shutdown-plans-to-bring-back-some-irs-employees/2019/01/07/c1dfafc8-12c0-11e9-b6ad-9cfd62dbb0a8_story.html?utm_term=.d4e699c3cff5


Does this mean IRS workers will be working without pay?

Also how can they legally issue refunds without appropriations? Not a lawyer but this doesn’t smell right


They can't. Trump doesn't know anything about appropriations law. Apparently neither does Pence.

Don't they have anyone with a functioning brain over at the WH?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump decided IRS refunds will be issued...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/white-house-rules-it-can-issue-tax-refunds-during-shutdown-plans-to-bring-back-some-irs-employees/2019/01/07/c1dfafc8-12c0-11e9-b6ad-9cfd62dbb0a8_story.html?utm_term=.d4e699c3cff5


Does this mean IRS workers will be working without pay?

Also how can they legally issue refunds without appropriations? Not a lawyer but this doesn’t smell right



Refunds do not come from appropriated funds but the workers’ pay does. The lawyers are bending over backwards to make it happen.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump decided IRS refunds will be issued...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/white-house-rules-it-can-issue-tax-refunds-during-shutdown-plans-to-bring-back-some-irs-employees/2019/01/07/c1dfafc8-12c0-11e9-b6ad-9cfd62dbb0a8_story.html?utm_term=.d4e699c3cff5


Does this mean IRS workers will be working without pay?

Also how can they legally issue refunds without appropriations? Not a lawyer but this doesn’t smell right


They can't. Trump doesn't know anything about appropriations law. Apparently neither does Pence.

Don't they have anyone with a functioning brain over at the WH?


We’re dealing with a President who said he would get rid of all of our then $19 trillion of debt in eight years.
Then he wanted to renegotiate America's debt with the nation's creditors.
Then he said the U.S. government could print money to stave off default.

Appropriations law is WAY out of his league.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump decided IRS refunds will be issued...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/white-house-rules-it-can-issue-tax-refunds-during-shutdown-plans-to-bring-back-some-irs-employees/2019/01/07/c1dfafc8-12c0-11e9-b6ad-9cfd62dbb0a8_story.html?utm_term=.d4e699c3cff5


Does this mean IRS workers will be working without pay?

Also how can they legally issue refunds without appropriations? Not a lawyer but this doesn’t smell right



Refunds do not come from appropriated funds but the workers’ pay does. The lawyers are bending over backwards to make it happen.

Are they going to do this every time someone complains about not receiving a government service (small business loan approval, EPA permit) or a government issued payment? Make federal workers provide these services and process the payments without pay.
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