Reported hazing incident involving Damascus High School JV Football team

[Anonymous]

Not sure if this has made national news yet anywhere else, but saw this on the Fox News website this morning. https://www.foxnews.com/us/maryland-hs-football-players-face-life-in-prison-for-alleged-locker-room-attack

[Anonymous]

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They're 15. Very young men.

The case should be referred back to the juvenile system.

You should really start or end your posts with 'In my opinion'. Because legally, you are incorrect. And that's not going to change no matter how often you state it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
They're 15. Very young men.

The case should be referred back to the juvenile system.

You should really start or end your posts with 'In my opinion'. Because legally, you are incorrect. And that's not going to change no matter how often you state it.

Legally, the procedure is for charges of this nature to start out in adult court and for a judge to decide if they should be “waived down” ie - referred back to juvenile court. PP is saying that is what should happen, the judge should refer it back to juvenile court. There is a legal process to do so. “Should” is inherently stating an opinion. There’s no need to double up with “in my opinion.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I still want to hear more on the defendants claims that this has happened before. That "brooming is a tradition at DHS".

I hope that's still under investigated, and not overlooked.

Right. And does that suggest that any of the sophomores were themselves victims of this when they were freshmen?

Didn't one of the young men attend a different school though?

They're 15. Very young men.

The case should be referred back to the juvenile system.

Sorry, they are sophomores in high school, supposedly honor students one and all. Definitely able to tell the difference between right and wrong and to know that it is wrong, if not illegal to rape someone with a broomstick.

Do you agree that sophomores in high school are not adults?

[Anonymous]

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Do you agree that sophomores in high school are not adults?

^^^15-year-old sophomores, that is. Obviously 18-year-old sophomores in high school are adults.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Do you agree that sophomores in high school are not adults?

Not PP, but I agree with that as it's an accurate statement.

Do you agree that Maryland has laws?

Do you agree that laws should be upheld?

Furthermore, do you agree that the courts (juvenile, district, circuit, et al) and their judicial proceedings should be held in accordance to those laws?

Maryland statute 3-8A-03 states (as it pertains to the juvenile court system):

(d) The court does not have jurisdiction over:
(1) A child at least 14 years old alleged to have done an act which, if committed by an adult, would be a crime punishable by life imprisonment, as well as all other charges against the child arising out of the same incident, unless an order removing the proceeding to the court has been filed under § 4–202 of the Criminal Procedure Article;

15 year olds are not adults. Everyone concedes that. The law states they will be tried as adults due to the nature of the offense (and it's punishment).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Do you agree that sophomores in high school are not adults?

Not PP, but I agree with that as it's an accurate statement.

Do you agree that Maryland has laws?

Do you agree that laws should be upheld?

Furthermore, do you agree that the courts (juvenile, district, circuit, et al) and their judicial proceedings should be held in accordance to those laws?

Maryland statute 3-8A-03 states (as it pertains to the juvenile court system):

(d) The court does not have jurisdiction over:
(1) A child at least 14 years old alleged to have done an act which, if committed by an adult, would be a crime punishable by life imprisonment, as well as all other charges against the child arising out of the same incident, unless an order removing the proceeding to the court has been filed under § 4–202 of the Criminal Procedure Article;

15 year olds are not adults. Everyone concedes that. The law states they will be tried as adults due to the nature of the offense (and it's punishment).

Or at least charged as adults. The defendant can still petition for a waiver back to juvenile court, as has already been stated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Do you agree that sophomores in high school are not adults?

Not PP, but I agree with that as it's an accurate statement.

Do you agree that Maryland has laws?

Do you agree that laws should be upheld?

Furthermore, do you agree that the courts (juvenile, district, circuit, et al) and their judicial proceedings should be held in accordance to those laws?

Maryland statute 3-8A-03 states (as it pertains to the juvenile court system):

(d) The court does not have jurisdiction over:
(1) A child at least 14 years old alleged to have done an act which, if committed by an adult, would be a crime punishable by life imprisonment, as well as all other charges against the child arising out of the same incident, unless an order removing the proceeding to the court has been filed under § 4–202 of the Criminal Procedure Article;

15 year olds are not adults. Everyone concedes that. The law states they will be tried as adults due to the nature of the offense (and it's punishment).

Or at least charged as adults. The defendant can still petition for a waiver back to juvenile court, as has already been stated.

Correct. I should have used charged, not tried. Although at this point with all the media attention, I doubt you can put the toothpaste back in the tube.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this has made national news yet anywhere else, but saw this on the Fox News website this morning. https://www.foxnews.com/us/maryland-hs-football-players-face-life-in-prison-for-alleged-locker-room-attack

Also a lead story on Good Morning America.

https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/news/video/high-school-football-players-face-life-prison-alleged-59465161

I hope MCPS will take this national scrutiny and clean up its athletic program. I hope MCPS will take this opportunity to review its practices so children are safe in their schools. My prayers and thoughts are with the victims that they get the mental health support to recover.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I actually think it could work against them that they are being hailed as virtuous honor students, kind, and patient and with loving families. It makes them look worse because they should know so much better.

Off topic, but I do believe we are being trolled by someone related to the case.

Make sure them look evil and pre-meditative

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Do you agree that sophomores in high school are not adults?

Not PP, but I agree with that as it's an accurate statement.

Do you agree that Maryland has laws?

Do you agree that laws should be upheld?

Furthermore, do you agree that the courts (juvenile, district, circuit, et al) and their judicial proceedings should be held in accordance to those laws?

Maryland statute 3-8A-03 states (as it pertains to the juvenile court system):

(d) The court does not have jurisdiction over:
(1) A child at least 14 years old alleged to have done an act which, if committed by an adult, would be a crime punishable by life imprisonment, as well as all other charges against the child arising out of the same incident, unless an order removing the proceeding to the court has been filed under § 4–202 of the Criminal Procedure Article;

15 year olds are not adults. Everyone concedes that. The law states they will be tried as adults due to the nature of the offense (and it's punishment).

The law provides for transferring the proceedings to juvenile court.

Also, yes, Maryland has laws. Laws are supposed to be there for a reason. If there isn't a reason, or if it's a bad reason, the law should be changed, not upheld. "We do it that way because it's the law" answers the question "Why do we do it that way?" but doesn't answer the question "Should we do it that way?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Do you agree that sophomores in high school are not adults?

Not PP, but I agree with that as it's an accurate statement.

Do you agree that Maryland has laws?

Do you agree that laws should be upheld?

Furthermore, do you agree that the courts (juvenile, district, circuit, et al) and their judicial proceedings should be held in accordance to those laws?

Maryland statute 3-8A-03 states (as it pertains to the juvenile court system):

(d) The court does not have jurisdiction over:
(1) A child at least 14 years old alleged to have done an act which, if committed by an adult, would be a crime punishable by life imprisonment, as well as all other charges against the child arising out of the same incident, unless an order removing the proceeding to the court has been filed under § 4–202 of the Criminal Procedure Article;

15 year olds are not adults. Everyone concedes that. The law states they will be tried as adults due to the nature of the offense (and it's punishment).

The law provides for transferring the proceedings to juvenile court.

Also, yes, Maryland has laws. Laws are supposed to be there for a reason. If there isn't a reason, or if it's a bad reason, the law should be changed, not upheld. "We do it that way because it's the law" answers the question "Why do we do it that way?" but doesn't answer the question "Should we do it that way?"

It also doesn't answer the question, "Should we ass rape children?" Until the law is changed to forgive that, I'm going to go with what's in place for incarceration of violent crimes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Do you agree that sophomores in high school are not adults?

Not PP, but I agree with that as it's an accurate statement.

Do you agree that Maryland has laws?

Do you agree that laws should be upheld?

Furthermore, do you agree that the courts (juvenile, district, circuit, et al) and their judicial proceedings should be held in accordance to those laws?

Maryland statute 3-8A-03 states (as it pertains to the juvenile court system):

(d) The court does not have jurisdiction over:
(1) A child at least 14 years old alleged to have done an act which, if committed by an adult, would be a crime punishable by life imprisonment, as well as all other charges against the child arising out of the same incident, unless an order removing the proceeding to the court has been filed under § 4–202 of the Criminal Procedure Article;

15 year olds are not adults. Everyone concedes that. The law states they will be tried as adults due to the nature of the offense (and it's punishment).

Or at least charged as adults. The defendant can still petition for a waiver back to juvenile court, as has already been stated.

Correct. I should have used charged, not tried. Although at this point with all the media attention, I doubt you can put the toothpaste back in the tube.

Um, so other people are wrong for not putting "in my opinion" before their statements which are obviously their opinion, but you can be forgiven for mixing up the difference between a charging decision and where the trial will actually be held? While accusing others of not knowing the law? When the law regarding "waivers down" has already been posted on this thread? Seriously. That is a big error for someone accusing others of not knowing/following the law. And it completely explains that in fact you are the one that is wrong about the law, not the people who have been saying they think it should be tried in juvenile court. sheesh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this has made national news yet anywhere else, but saw this on the Fox News website this morning. https://www.foxnews.com/us/maryland-hs-football-players-face-life-in-prison-for-alleged-locker-room-attack

It was on Good Morning America this morning, and my friend in San Diego messaged me about it last night.

Still took awhile to hit national news.

[Anonymous]

Poor victims. Hope they also get a lot of money and move somewhere else and start their normal life again. Get the hell away from MCPS and moco