4 students in University of Idaho, killed in their home.

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This case will end up being utterly fascinating and will generate tons of content that the families of the victims will be unable to avoid for years to come. I’m sure Hollywood is salivating over screenplays in early stages already.

Those poor kids.

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I’m on the same sub reddits and this is overall a good summary but a couple of factual errors. BK’s verified Reddit account which was “criminologystudent” was the account that he posted the survey from and was connected to his school email address. The inside looking account is total speculation at this point but was not the account that posted the criminology survey. The professor he did the survey under now has commented now (ironically on the record to the Daily Mail) and said he was the most brilliant student and she has only ever recommended 2 people in her career to a PhD program and he was one of them.

Also, MSF said that he thought BK might have been on the spectrum - this is not fact at all and the MSF made it clear that that was just his opinion.

The affidavit has not been released so no one actually knows what official probable cause they have right now. The only thing they have publically stated is the Elantra was a 2015 and has been seized from the PA parents residence. CNN had an unofficial leak, allegedly from LE that stated there was DNA and Bluetooth evidence, but to my knowledge that has not been officially confirmed and we will not know for sure until affidavit is public.

Thanks for corrections. In my MPD preface, I stated no motive at this time and confirmation that Bluetooth evidence was mentioned in MPD press conference. Chief Fry was the one who confirmed it when asked by press. Yes, I saw criminolgystudent posts but couldn’t remember if that’s where the survey appeared because the account was deleted. Most redditors preface their posts with speculation, theory, opinion so they don’t get deleted, and you’re right MSK did the same. MSK stated he “believed” BK had a significant mental illness and that he was on the spectrum. He backed this up by admitting he himself was on the spectrum and they shared many behaviors. I remember him saying that the majority of those on the spectrum or with mental illnesses are not murderers. We can all agree on this.

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The professor he did the survey under now has commented now (ironically on the record to the Daily Mail) and said he was the most brilliant student and she has only ever recommended 2 people in her career to a PhD program and he was one of them.
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Do you have a link to the above?

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Her responses are buried in here.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11590361/Idaho-quadruple-killers-criminology-professor-reveals-brilliant-student.html

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11590361/Idaho-quadruple-killers-criminology-professor-reveals-brilliant-student.html

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder why his neighbors or parents didn't realize or notify police about the car he drove? It was all over the news.

It might be because there are tens of thousands of white Hyundai Elantras coast to coast. That could be part of it.

PP here. If I knew my friend or son or brother was enrolled in school and lived approximately 10 miles away from the murder scene and also drove a white Hyundai Elantra, it would give me a reason to wonder. I might even think someone had borrowed or stolen it. You wouldn't?

"The University of Idaho has 90 white Hyundai Elantras registered to park at the school, vehicles similar to the one police are seeking in connection with the quadruple homicide just steps off campus, records show."

But not one that mysteriously dissapeared across the country with a grad student who did not return for the rest of Winter break. Kinda stands out, don't you think?

Huh?

Not literally disappeared. He drove the car across the country right after the killings and never went back. That obviously looks suspicious.

He finished out his classes for the semester and went home for winter break, like tens of thousands of other kids from the school.

And if my son had that same car that was being reported in the news, plus knowing he attended school 10 miles away from the murders, I would inform the police.

No, you wouldn’t, because you have no reason to think that your son did anything wrong.

There's a gut feeling that most parents have about a child who struggles with mental health issues.

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Trust your gut. Do something now, before it is too late. Making your child someone else's problem is not a plan.

Had the school system stepped in and punished the people bullying him, he might’ve felt better supported. Seems he came from a good family and his problems were in school. Had I not moved my son to a private, he might have take a dark path. He was bullied in public and the school blamed him and let the bullying continue - seemed to enjoy his pain. The private was a 180 difference and he was actually one of the most looked up to kids by the other students. He went on to college and now has a very successful career.

It was up to you as a parent to help your child, and you did. You parented. Congratulations.

What some people call bullying, ruins it for everyone else that truly experiences bullying.

How can you ignore the fact that moving your kid to a private school is a “solution” that is only available to the wealthy. There are many good parents who are poor and cannot consider that option.

Correct. Which is why these feel good policies towards bullies needs to stop

Incorrect. In FCPS, and other jurisdictions, one can move their student due to bullying. ie: public school to public school

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I am really curious how they used the genealogy evidence to match the DNA from the crime scene? I am surmising that the DNA at the scene matched a relative and the relative did some sort of DNA test like 23 and Me. They got the relative's name and then matched to his name because of the car?

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Anonymous wrote:I'd wish we'd stop rushing to blame mental illness for everything, as if that excuses or explains his actions. He could just be a garden variety evil criminal who deserves to rot under the jail for the rest of his life.

+1 also where does it say that he was bullied? People are just making excuses for this POS.

Interviews from former classmates says he was bullied by primarily girls in high school because of his weight and social awkwardness.

Oh noes, someone laughed at him and he couldn't take it? Good lord.

A man's worst fear is that a woman will laugh at him. A woman's worst fear is that a man will kill her.

I have never bullied or teased anyone and have been the victim of it plenty, but this has nothing to do with bullying. This killer was a killer because he was a shit person, bullied or not, mentally ill or not.

Wow, this is so true and so painful to read. I feel like this sentence on billboards everywhere would make an incredible awareness campaign. Men and the people who raise them need to wake up. (Raising two boys myself...)

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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s ironic that so many people are claiming it was the parents’ responsibility to get their 28 year old help, but on basically every other thread people post that parenting is basically done st 18, definitely at 21, and parents who are still involved parents to a 20 something are told to land the helicopter.

Such a valid observation!

Wait, are we talking about mental illness or are we talking about micro managing a high schooler's social circle?

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder why his neighbors or parents didn't realize or notify police about the car he drove? It was all over the news.

It might be because there are tens of thousands of white Hyundai Elantras coast to coast. That could be part of it.

PP here. If I knew my friend or son or brother was enrolled in school and lived approximately 10 miles away from the murder scene and also drove a white Hyundai Elantra, it would give me a reason to wonder. I might even think someone had borrowed or stolen it. You wouldn't?

"The University of Idaho has 90 white Hyundai Elantras registered to park at the school, vehicles similar to the one police are seeking in connection with the quadruple homicide just steps off campus, records show."

But not one that mysteriously dissapeared across the country with a grad student who did not return for the rest of Winter break. Kinda stands out, don't you think?

Huh?

Not literally disappeared. He drove the car across the country right after the killings and never went back. That obviously looks suspicious.

He finished out his classes for the semester and went home for winter break, like tens of thousands of other kids from the school.

And if my son had that same car that was being reported in the news, plus knowing he attended school 10 miles away from the murders, I would inform the police.

No, you wouldn’t, because you have no reason to think that your son did anything wrong.

There's a gut feeling that most parents have about a child who struggles with mental health issues.

That's a bizarre take. The types of mental health issues that parents commonly encounter in their kids are things like depression and anxiety, not paranoid schizophrenia or psychopathy. Depresed kids aren't any more dangerous to others than their non-depressed classmates.

PP here. It's not a bizarre take. Not referring to depression or anxiety. Referring to schizophrenia and other severe forms of mental illness. Parents may not have a name for it, but most parents do have a gut feeling when their child "seems weird" or "off" or "strange." Those are terms parents may use to describe what they have observed

Strongly recommend people check out this podcast ("Sharon Says So" - Dr. Jillian Peterson) which is really enlightening on this subject. It's really excellent and only about 40 minutes. No, forcing your kid to lose weight isn't the answer. But giving a shit, not just parents but also the community, really is the answer. She talks about what moves people toward violence (it's not their mental illness) and how small things can make a huge positive impact. I realize this guy's not a shooter but it's the same type of mass violence and he seems like the same kind of character.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/173-the-violence-project-with-dr-jillian-peterson/id1576266622?i=1000577404454

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I’m on the same sub reddits and this is overall a good summary but a couple of factual errors. BK’s verified Reddit account which was “criminologystudent” was the account that he posted the survey from and was connected to his school email address. The inside looking account is total speculation at this point but was not the account that posted the criminology survey. The professor he did the survey under now has commented now (ironically on the record to the Daily Mail) and said he was the most brilliant student and she has only ever recommended 2 people in her career to a PhD program and he was one of them.

Also, MSF said that he thought BK might have been on the spectrum - this is not fact at all and the MSF made it clear that that was just his opinion.

The affidavit has not been released so no one actually knows what official probable cause they have right now. The only thing they have publically stated is the Elantra was a 2015 and has been seized from the PA parents residence. CNN had an unofficial leak, allegedly from LE that stated there was DNA and Bluetooth evidence, but to my knowledge that has not been officially confirmed and we will not know for sure until affidavit is public.

Thanks for corrections. In my MPD preface, I stated no motive at this time and confirmation that Bluetooth evidence was mentioned in MPD press conference. Chief Fry was the one who confirmed it when asked by press. Yes, I saw criminolgystudent posts but couldn’t remember if that’s where the survey appeared because the account was deleted. Most redditors preface their posts with speculation, theory, opinion so they don’t get deleted, and you’re right MSK did the same. MSK stated he “believed” BK had a significant mental illness and that he was on the spectrum. He backed this up by admitting he himself was on the spectrum and they shared many behaviors. I remember him saying that the majority of those on the spectrum or with mental illnesses are not murderers. We can all agree on this.

Also - not sure if you saw but inside looking deleted his/her account on their own accord so now it’s definitely ruled out that that was BK.

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Anonymous wrote:The professor he did the survey under now has commented now (ironically on the record to the Daily Mail) and said he was the most brilliant student and she has only ever recommended 2 people in her career to a PhD program and he was one of them.
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NP here. She never met him. Only through an on-line course.

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Killer’s parents:
“We stand by our son.”
Sick, sick, sick.

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It has been said that he possibly stalked (2) of his victims - and that this was likely going on for quite a while, until he snapped.

This is why stalking should be taken seriously - you never know what is going through a stalker's mind - they do not stalk for "good" reason - they intend to cause harm, at some level. If the stalker has the propensity to stalk - they also have the propensity to hurt you or your family, or kill.

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Anonymous wrote:Killer’s parents:
“We stand by our son.”
Sick, sick, sick.

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So gross. Reminds me of the Laundries, who wanted to send their son a shovel. They think they are above the law.