4 students in University of Idaho, killed in their home.

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Anonymous wrote:Killer’s parents:
“We stand by our son.”
Sick, sick, sick.

I would stand by my child too until their guilt was proven.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder why his neighbors or parents didn't realize or notify police about the car he drove? It was all over the news.

It might be because there are tens of thousands of white Hyundai Elantras coast to coast. That could be part of it.

PP here. If I knew my friend or son or brother was enrolled in school and lived approximately 10 miles away from the murder scene and also drove a white Hyundai Elantra, it would give me a reason to wonder. I might even think someone had borrowed or stolen it. You wouldn't?

"The University of Idaho has 90 white Hyundai Elantras registered to park at the school, vehicles similar to the one police are seeking in connection with the quadruple homicide just steps off campus, records show."

But not one that mysteriously dissapeared across the country with a grad student who did not return for the rest of Winter break. Kinda stands out, don't you think?

Huh?

Not literally disappeared. He drove the car across the country right after the killings and never went back. That obviously looks suspicious.

He finished out his classes for the semester and went home for winter break, like tens of thousands of other kids from the school.

And if my son had that same car that was being reported in the news, plus knowing he attended school 10 miles away from the murders, I would inform the police.

No, you wouldn’t, because you have no reason to think that your son did anything wrong.

There's a gut feeling that most parents have about a child who struggles with mental health issues.

That's a bizarre take. The types of mental health issues that parents commonly encounter in their kids are things like depression and anxiety, not paranoid schizophrenia or psychopathy. Depresed kids aren't any more dangerous to others than their non-depressed classmates.

PP here. It's not a bizarre take. Not referring to depression or anxiety. Referring to schizophrenia and other severe forms of mental illness. Parents may not have a name for it, but most parents do have a gut feeling when their child "seems weird" or "off" or "strange." Those are terms parents may use to describe what they have observed

Strongly recommend people check out this podcast ("Sharon Says So" - Dr. Jillian Peterson) which is really enlightening on this subject. It's really excellent and only about 40 minutes. No, forcing your kid to lose weight isn't the answer. But giving a shit, not just parents but also the community, really is the answer. She talks about what moves people toward violence (it's not their mental illness) and how small things can make a huge positive impact. I realize this guy's not a shooter but it's the same type of mass violence and he seems like the same kind of character.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/173-the-violence-project-with-dr-jillian-peterson/id1576266622?i=1000577404454

Thanks for the link.

And to address your post - some parents really could not care less for their own kids, sadly - they just want them out of the house.

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Anonymous wrote:Killer’s parents:
“We stand by our son.”
Sick, sick, sick.

Dumb take, OP. Post the entire statement by the family, it’s very nuanced and sincere.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a therapist. Mental illness doesn't make someone a murderer. We don't like to talk about this because it goes against what our culture believes and espouses, but some people are just evil. Hitler wasn't mentally ill. He was just an evil person.

Mental illness doesn’t make someone a murder, but anyone that does a murder like that has to be mentally ill. Normal people don’t stab 4 strangers to death in their bed

Nope.

I think it's distressing for people to acknowledge that there are just really shitty, awful, vile people in this world and they're born this way. Most are men, but it has nothing to do with mental illness, being bullied, or being abused yourself. Some people are just born wanting to inflict harm on others with no f*cks given.

Something happened in his home, and his dad reportedly was similar to him. Hurt people hurt people - but not because of the bullying - something bad happened at home.

Something bad happens in millions of homes every day.

And those are the homes that create monsters.

Monsters are also created in homes where kids are taught it is never their fault, that it is always someone else who provoked them and they are always innocent, monsters are made in families who want to be perfect and cover up for their kids screw ups and explain away every bad behavior as due to an attack from "some one or something else"....

B-I-N-G-O.

Beware of parents who believe their child can do no wrong. They’re breeding the evil.

Stop idolizing your child.

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Anonymous wrote:It has been said that he possibly stalked (2) of his victims - and that this was likely going on for quite a while, until he snapped.

This is why stalking should be taken seriously - you never know what is going through a stalker's mind - they do not stalk for "good" reason - they intend to cause harm, at some level. If the stalker has the propensity to stalk - they also have the propensity to hurt you or your family, or kill.

Do you have a source for this? I think I saw this in Daily Mail but a more legit source would be good, if you have it.

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Anonymous wrote:It has been said that he possibly stalked (2) of his victims - and that this was likely going on for quite a while, until he snapped.

This is why stalking should be taken seriously - you never know what is going through a stalker's mind - they do not stalk for "good" reason - they intend to cause harm, at some level. If the stalker has the propensity to stalk - they also have the propensity to hurt you or your family, or kill.

Do you have a source for this? I think I saw this in Daily Mail but a more legit source would be good, if you have it.

It’s been reported in multiple sources. Look around a bit for yourself. What do you know about stalking? - NP

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a therapist. Mental illness doesn't make someone a murderer. We don't like to talk about this because it goes against what our culture believes and espouses, but some people are just evil. Hitler wasn't mentally ill. He was just an evil person.

Mental illness doesn’t make someone a murder, but anyone that does a murder like that has to be mentally ill. Normal people don’t stab 4 strangers to death in their bed

Nope.

I think it's distressing for people to acknowledge that there are just really shitty, awful, vile people in this world and they're born this way. Most are men, but it has nothing to do with mental illness, being bullied, or being abused yourself. Some people are just born wanting to inflict harm on others with no f*cks given.

Something happened in his home, and his dad reportedly was similar to him. Hurt people hurt people - but not because of the bullying - something bad happened at home.

Something bad happens in millions of homes every day.

And those are the homes that create monsters.

Monsters are also created in homes where kids are taught it is never their fault, that it is always someone else who provoked them and they are always innocent, monsters are made in families who want to be perfect and cover up for their kids screw ups and explain away every bad behavior as due to an attack from "some one or something else"....

B-I-N-G-O.

Beware of parents who believe their child can do no wrong. They’re breeding the evil.

Stop idolizing your child.

+1

Parents of monsters deflect like it is a sport.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd wish we'd stop rushing to blame mental illness for everything, as if that excuses or explains his actions. He could just be a garden variety evil criminal who deserves to rot under the jail for the rest of his life.

+1 also where does it say that he was bullied? People are just making excuses for this POS.

Interviews from former classmates says he was bullied by primarily girls in high school because of his weight and social awkwardness.

Oh noes, someone laughed at him and he couldn't take it? Good lord.

A man's worst fear is that a woman will laugh at him. A woman's worst fear is that a man will kill her.

I have never bullied or teased anyone and have been the victim of it plenty, but this has nothing to do with bullying. This killer was a killer because he was a shit person, bullied or not, mentally ill or not.

Wow, this is so true and so painful to read. I feel like this sentence on billboards everywhere would make an incredible awareness campaign. Men and the people who raise them need to wake up. (Raising two boys myself...)

Hi there. The bolded sentence has been part of an awareness campaign about violence against women since sometime in the 1980s. It has not solved the problem.

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Anonymous wrote:Killer’s parents:
“We stand by our son.”
Sick, sick, sick.

I would stand by my child too until their guilt was proven.

I interpret “standing by him” as remaining his parents, since that is not a job responsible people quit. Seeing what he needs in prison, helping him through the trial. It has nothing to do with condoning his actions or helping him escape justice.

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Anonymous wrote:Killer’s parents:
“We stand by our son.”
Sick, sick, sick.

I would stand by my child too until their guilt was proven.

I interpret “standing by him” as remaining his parents, since that is not a job responsible people quit. Seeing what he needs in prison, helping him through the trial. It has nothing to do with condoning his actions or helping him escape justice.

No, “I said by him” USUALLY means I believe in him. But you do you.

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Anonymous wrote:Killer’s parents:
“We stand by our son.”
Sick, sick, sick.

I would stand by my child too until their guilt was proven.

I interpret “standing by him” as remaining his parents, since that is not a job responsible people quit. Seeing what he needs in prison, helping him through the trial. It has nothing to do with condoning his actions or helping him escape justice.

No, “I said by him” USUALLY means I believe in him. But you do you.

*STAND - not said

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Anonymous wrote:Killer’s parents:
“We stand by our son.”
Sick, sick, sick.

I would stand by my child too until their guilt was proven.

I give them a little leeway for the simple reason this is a shocking, horrible, terrible, unexpected situation they find themselves in and maybe this is shock and confusion talking. How would any of us react under these dreadful circumstances?

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Anonymous wrote:Killer’s parents:
“We stand by our son.”
Sick, sick, sick.

I would stand by my child too until their guilt was proven.

I give them a little leeway for the simple reason this is a shocking, horrible, terrible, unexpected situation they find themselves in and maybe this is shock and confusion talking. How would any of us react under these dreadful circumstances?

I agree. Their son is denying it, he was at least right now high functioning in a phD program and they are his parents. They probably truly believe it’s some horrible mistake at this point. Not much has been released so they don’t fully know or understand the evidence. As a parent I can imagine being in deep denial in a situation like this

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Anonymous wrote:Killer’s parents:
“We stand by our son.”
Sick, sick, sick.

I would stand by my child too until their guilt was proven.

I interpret “standing by him” as remaining his parents, since that is not a job responsible people quit. Seeing what he needs in prison, helping him through the trial. It has nothing to do with condoning his actions or helping him escape justice.

That’s basically the gist of their statement. I wish people would stop pulling quotes out of context.

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Anonymous wrote:Killer’s parents:
“We stand by our son.”
Sick, sick, sick.

I would stand by my child too until their guilt was proven.

I give them a little leeway for the simple reason this is a shocking, horrible, terrible, unexpected situation they find themselves in and maybe this is shock and confusion talking. How would any of us react under these dreadful circumstances?

People who knew him might not be that shocked at all. Law enforcement is in the midst of interviewing many people to get a picture of his mindset.

If he in fact he went right back to classes immediately after the murders, I would find that astonishing... to plop right back into class like nothing just happened. That would take a special kind of evil.