Girl Raped at Rockville HS

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:40 pages of ranting about "the illegals", I'm guessing?

Exactly, no solutions for all the other 200+ rapes per year in Montgomery county. Head in the sand about the fact that 1 in 10 girls are raped by their boyfriends (or somebody they know) in high school. We don't want to mess up our white boys' future.

Makes one wonder how much outrage it would generate if the suspects were two white boys from Flower Valley.

White kids rape in every single school in Montgomery County.. you won't hear about it though.

If a white kid kills your kid in a car, you will hear about it, but rape is full of shame, girls are blamed for putting themselves in the situation (for skipping school or drinking)... even this case a few people commented that they thought it was consensual.

People are really uneducated about rape.

It's a big secret like depression and cutting.

[Anonymous]

There are not rapes reported every week in MC schools during school hours. Your hysterical attempts to derail and deflect are silly.

So the boys are sent to US to get away from gangs, but gang problems are now growing, here.

Reasons victims don't report and for kid not to provide uncle's address are obvious. Fear of machetes and of ICE are not misplaced.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it it interesting that the same people that are certain it's rape, are demanding patience about the perps legal status.
So which is it? Presumption of guilt or wait for facts?

The immigration status of the accused is relevant to the assault how, exactly?

Because if he/they were not here it wouldn't have happened. Add to the fact the MoCo is intensely invested in sanctuary status, people are rightly concerned that this rapist and accomplice will be set free. On grounds for racism/xenophobia/[name your special status here].

Well, obviously. Also if the girl hadn't been here. Or if there had been a snow day today. Or if the girl had been sick today. Or if somebody had been in the boys' bathroom. Or...

Immigration/citizenship status is not relevant to rape.

Immigration status is relevant to bail.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:40 pages of ranting about "the illegals", I'm guessing?

Exactly, no solutions for all the other 200+ rapes per year in Montgomery county. Head in the sand about the fact that 1 in 10 girls are raped by their boyfriends (or somebody they know) in high school. We don't want to mess up our white boys' future.

Makes one wonder how much outrage it would generate if the suspects were two white boys from Flower Valley.

White kids rape in every single school in Montgomery County.. you won't hear about it though.

If a white kid kills your kid in a car, you will hear about it, but rape is full of shame, girls are blamed for putting themselves in the situation (for skipping school or drinking)... even this case a few people commented that they thought it was consensual.

People are really uneducated about rape.

It's a big secret like depression and cutting.

Not being snarky- but how do you know?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are multiple sexual assaults and drug arrests at MCPS. Why is everyone ignoring those?

We are discussing one deplorable incident, which involves dumb policy by MCPS where it could be foreseen that a problem would arise. It did not have to happen and is a glaring example of the counties defend illegals above all reason. Why do you feel the need to deflect the conversation. Of course there are other rapes and even murder, so that means we should just say "oh well."

How could mcps have forseen this horrific incident would happen? Plenty of illegal immigrant children are respectful, try to follow the law, and go on to be quit successful. How do you tell which person is going to commit a crime?

Not the PP, but by definition, an ILLEGAL immigrant has already broken the law. And this was NOT a child. The attacker was an 18 year old MAN. Can you really not see how that would cause problems? Putting a grown man who speaks no English and comes from a troubled background in with 14 year old girls?

+1 ILLEGAL. We have no idea these men's background but you put them in school with 14 year-olds. A troubled student of legal status, you would have an idea if they committed felonies before -- we know nothing of these men that illegally entered the country with the last year but sure, come integrate with our children. Let's just cross our fingers that it works. Great Plan

First of all, many illegal immigrant children didn't break the law by coming here. Their parents did. I'm guessing the children had no choice.

Secondly, we have many "real" Americans who are 19/20 by the time they finish HS because they have been redshirted. If you want to have a rule that prohibits 20 years olds in HS, I'm all for that. But, it should apply to everyone, not just those with brown skin with no documents.

Thirdly, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that not all 18 yr old illegal immigrants have committed rape. Therefore, I don't think anyone could have predicted that this would happen.

Again, if you think having much older teens in HS with 14 year olds is a problem (and I do agree with this), then again, we should make it a blanket rule.

I think we should expand the scope of this outrage to those parents who redshirt their kids to the point that there are 20 year olds in HS. Wasn't there a case like this in one of the w schools a while ago?

I doubt you have a daughter in a MC High School.

You don't have a daughter in MC high school if you don't know the real threat is the guy that picks her up in a fancy car, drives wasted and consumes drugs with her.

I'm the ^^PP.... I have a DD and DS in MCPS. And I have stated that before this thread that 20 year olds shouldn't be in HS. And yes, I worry about my kids' exposure to the drug/alcohol culture in the wealthier parts of mcps, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The problem of illegal immigration is not solely the fault of our schools. The New York Times editorial board puts this on employers, and our government, for not enforcing laws to hire legally. Many people on this board also need to take a long look at who they are hiring to watch their children, clean their homes, mow lawns, cater their events, home maintenance, etc... are you also contributing to the problem of keeping illegal immigrants here with cash payments and no questions asked? I'm just saying that we can't have it both ways: complaining about illegal immigration while underpaying immigrants to do jobs we don't want to do or don't want to pay a good wage for. This is happening up and down the employment chain, so to speak.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/20/opinion/no-crackdown-on-illegal-employers.html?ref=opinion

+1. The real problem is the employers that want to maximize their profits by paying people sub-minimum wages, which they can do because the people are desperate and undocumented. You anti-immigrant posters like to bash on the Democrats but the previous administration was really cracking down on this with a one-two punch of: (1) the social security no-match letters and serious penalties for employers that didn't resolve no match issues; and (2) cracking down on misclassification of workers as "independent contractors" which is how all these employers get around the social security problem. The current administration will do nothing on the independent contractor problem, because the Chamber of Commerce doesn't want it to focus on this abuse.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:40 pages of ranting about "the illegals", I'm guessing?

Exactly, no solutions for all the other 200+ rapes per year in Montgomery county. Head in the sand about the fact that 1 in 10 girls are raped by their boyfriends (or somebody they know) in high school. We don't want to mess up our white boys' future.

Makes one wonder how much outrage it would generate if the suspects were two white boys from Flower Valley.

Once again, another deflector trying to stir the pot. We are talking about this REAL incident that happened involving illegal man immigrants in a high school. And lets tLk about the Flower Valley kids for a moment.... do they deserve to be in high school with this going on??? And how about their parents payong in the 6's for their homes while their kids are in high school with illegal adults? I think thoseFlower Valley families work hard with hopes of having a nice and safe community and deserve peace of mind that their childrens hs is a safe place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:40 pages of ranting about "the illegals", I'm guessing?

Exactly, no solutions for all the other 200+ rapes per year in Montgomery county. Head in the sand about the fact that 1 in 10 girls are raped by their boyfriends (or somebody they know) in high school. We don't want to mess up our white boys' future.

Makes one wonder how much outrage it would generate if the suspects were two white boys from Flower Valley.

It would generate an equal amount of outrage. Does that answer your question? Why do you keep posting? We care about all rapes happening in and out of our schools. This one is the final straw. And to throw your question back at you...what have YOU done to prevent the 200+ rapes reported?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:40 pages of ranting about "the illegals", I'm guessing?

Exactly, no solutions for all the other 200+ rapes per year in Montgomery county. Head in the sand about the fact that 1 in 10 girls are raped by their boyfriends (or somebody they know) in high school. We don't want to mess up our white boys' future.

Which rape in a Montgomery County high school has been ignored?? NONE.

Enough is Enough.

You are joking right!?!?!

This is the only high school student raped in all of the Montgomery County ... every?

There are rapes reported every week. Why don't you know this?

In which Montgomery County high school was the last rape? Do YOU even know?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:40 pages of ranting about "the illegals", I'm guessing?

Exactly, no solutions for all the other 200+ rapes per year in Montgomery county. Head in the sand about the fact that 1 in 10 girls are raped by their boyfriends (or somebody they know) in high school. We don't want to mess up our white boys' future.

Makes one wonder how much outrage it would generate if the suspects were two white boys from Flower Valley.

It would generate an equal amount of outrage. Does that answer your question? Why do you keep posting? We care about all rapes happening in and out of our schools. This one is the final straw. And to throw your question back at you...what have YOU done to prevent the 200+ rapes reported?

Exactly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are multiple sexual assaults and drug arrests at MCPS. Why is everyone ignoring those?

We are discussing one deplorable incident, which involves dumb policy by MCPS where it could be foreseen that a problem would arise. It did not have to happen and is a glaring example of the counties defend illegals above all reason. Why do you feel the need to deflect the conversation. Of course there are other rapes and even murder, so that means we should just say "oh well."

How could mcps have forseen this horrific incident would happen? Plenty of illegal immigrant children are respectful, try to follow the law, and go on to be quit successful. How do you tell which person is going to commit a crime?

Sorry but this argument does not resonate with me at all.

I'm as liberal as they come, but this is ridiculous.

My daughter is zoned for Barnsley so this is not some theoretical problem as far as I'm concerned. The FACT is that an 18 year old man raped a 14 year old girl in the bathroom AT our high school. If you don't think that deserves some action, then that's just nuts.

You are totally right. People must demand immediate safeguards from criminals in our schools.

Well no comment can be made because there is an active investigation going on. So no action can be taken, because the investigation isn't complete.

You will just have to wait. Besides, without a completed investigation, how do you know anything wrong took place? Maybe the so-called victim is lying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All you libs can sit back and keep arguing how MC and MD need to be a "sanctuary city" so illegals have a safe place to call home, but when shit like this happens, you can't then be "outraged".

It is one or the other.

If the police can't report a CRIMINAL who is in this country illegally, and that CRIMINAL knows it, what do you think that CRIMINAL will continue to do?

This kid was already tagged to be deported, but in his sanctuary city, he knows he isn't going anywhere fast. Why not rape some poor 14 year-old kid whose life has now been changed forever?

If he was tagged to be deported, then why didn't ICE do its job and do so? No matter if Rockville is or is not a sanctuary city (and it is not), ICE can do its job. He wasn't holed up in a church or something. The local police's job is not to deport people or enforce immigration rules. If it was, then they are taking on the federal role, and I don't think that's how the law works. If you want to change the law, then that's a different story, but then you start getting into some murky water there.

[Anonymous]

Wow. When you have let yourself get backed into a corner of suggesting a 14 year old lied about being brutally raped, maybe it's time to walk away from the keyboard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:40 pages of ranting about "the illegals", I'm guessing?

Exactly, no solutions for all the other 200+ rapes per year in Montgomery county. Head in the sand about the fact that 1 in 10 girls are raped by their boyfriends (or somebody they know) in high school. We don't want to mess up our white boys' future.

Makes one wonder how much outrage it would generate if the suspects were two white boys from Flower Valley.

White kids rape in every single school in Montgomery County.. you won't hear about it though.

If a white kid kills your kid in a car, you will hear about it, but rape is full of shame, girls are blamed for putting themselves in the situation (for skipping school or drinking)... even this case a few people commented that they thought it was consensual.

People are really uneducated about rape.

It's a big secret like depression and cutting.

Not being snarky- but how do you know?

Because my spouse works with rape victims. I know the officer that wrote the report. I have a close relationship with LEO in major crimes. I talk to the WaPo crime reporters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am struck by how brazen the attackers were. They didn't attack and run away. They stayed in school as if nothing has happened, which leads me to the conclusion that they have attacked before, threatened the victim, and gotten away with it.

Exactly. God only knows how many victims in our public schools simply didn't have the courage and support to report their attackers to the police.

I had this thought too, but people should realize that it's likely their previous victims were girls who are undocumented or have undocumented family members and we're afraid to come forward to make a police report. This is the real effect of Trump's crackdown--it makes it much harder for law enforcement to find and prosecute the criminals in that community because people are afraid to cooperate with authorities. This country had the same problem is hundred years ago, when the gangs were speaking Italian, not Spanish. ICE is making the job of local law enforcement much harder by going after people whose only crime is to be here and work without proper immigration status.