Teachers/ADA eligibility

[Anonymous]

Our principal told us they cannot share if or why specific teachers got accommodations and told parents no, we could not directly ask a teacher for that information either. But in several schools entire grades are not back because the principals are not making the teachers come back, even when the demand is clearly there for in person learning. Did DCPS meet demand? No. Did teachers get called back in an attempt to meet this demand? Totally dependent on the principal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:in re 10:27
There are a few key things to understand

1. There is federal ADA and DC ADA. One is very narrow- and one is very broad. (I will let you figure which is which
2. If a teacher has leave granted under DC ADA they can ABSOLUTELY be called back, IF there is parent demand for IPL. They will huff and puff and it can absolutely happen.

3. Ask your childs teacher why they won't come in. If they are big boy/girl enough to coast on virtual learning- they are big enough to hear it- from you.

Here is the thing. These people posting on here WOULD NEVER say this stuff to the teachers face. Can you imagine asking your teacher to by they are refusing to come in and coasting by teaching virtually and they tell you they are currently receiving chemo for a cancer diagnosis? How dumb would you feel to demand to know someone business and then find out they have a valid reason.

Why not? Today my students in the cares room unmuted and ask their teachers why they do not want to work with them.
It is fair and valid.

And how did the teachers respond?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our principal told us they cannot share if or why specific teachers got accommodations and told parents no, we could not directly ask a teacher for that information either. But in several schools entire grades are not back because the principals are not making the teachers come back, even when the demand is clearly there for in person learning. Did DCPS meet demand? No. Did teachers get called back in an attempt to meet this demand? Totally dependent on the principal.

Does your job allow others to demand personal health information of its workforce?

[Anonymous]

No overall numbers available?

[Anonymous]

Previous posters who had kids in a cares class ask why teachers are not returning.

One said they really wanted to- but had kids at home. And the other one tried to convince the kids who great distance learning is.

BOTH are coming back to teach summer school, in person 2 weeks after school lets out.

The kids are not missing a beat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, to clear up any misconceptions.

Yes, DCPS teachers are absolutely abusing ADA. The biggest ones right now are asthma and obesity. These same teachers are coming back- in person, to teach summer school at my school.

Please understand that ever single IPL could be out on the same bogus disabilities, too. Your IPL teachers are taking it for the team.

Yes, I am disgusted with the DCPS teachers. And yes- if gave them even $500 they would be all back to do IPL.

I am fairly liberal, but Trump was not wrong when he talked about democratic cities. I am happy to work in DCPS but am so happy I got my kids the heck out of this system.

Lmao. Oh wow, are you from this country? As a child my asthma was so bad I had to miss numerous days of school and went to the emergency room when a teacher forced me to run. You really have no idea how debilitating it can be.

Also obesity may not be valid to you but it depends on what the obesity is doing to a person. I have known people who have gotten compensation for their job, grated they were morbidly obese but they still got paid not to work. This is BEFORE covid.

And no, we talked about compensation before, literally all the 250+ teachers on the call said ‘hell no’ still even if there was compensation.

Tired of this black and white thinking and burst of anger, are the majority here borderline?

I’ll keep saying it, lawyer, psychiatrist, etc were able to work from home so most of them choose to do so. DCPS who is the employer, not you, your child, or your tax dollars and THEY said, ‘sure work from home.’

So if your teacher didn’t make the choice you wanted I’m sorry. When I told parents I am doing IPL I had several complain because they didn’t want their child to get less attention (since they only wan DL). Can’t win.

Focus on the Fall and pushing DCPS to just make a virtual school for families who want it so we can be open 5 days a week, no simulcast or hybrid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, to clear up any misconceptions.

Yes, DCPS teachers are absolutely abusing ADA. The biggest ones right now are asthma and obesity. These same teachers are coming back- in person, to teach summer school at my school.

Please understand that ever single IPL could be out on the same bogus disabilities, too. Your IPL teachers are taking it for the team.

Yes, I am disgusted with the DCPS teachers. And yes- if gave them even $500 they would be all back to do IPL.

I am fairly liberal, but Trump was not wrong when he talked about democratic cities. I am happy to work in DCPS but am so happy I got my kids the heck out of this system.

Lmao. Oh wow, are you from this country? As a child my asthma was so bad I had to miss numerous days of school and went to the emergency room when a teacher forced me to run. You really have no idea how debilitating it can be.

Also obesity may not be valid to you but it depends on what the obesity is doing to a person. I have known people who have gotten compensation for their job, grated they were morbidly obese but they still got paid not to work. This is BEFORE covid.

And no, we talked about compensation before, literally all the 250+ teachers on the call said ‘hell no’ still even if there was compensation.

Tired of this black and white thinking and burst of anger, are the majority here borderline?

I’ll keep saying it, lawyer, psychiatrist, etc were able to work from home so most of them choose to do so. DCPS who is the employer, not you, your child, or your tax dollars and THEY said, ‘sure work from home.’

So if your teacher didn’t make the choice you wanted I’m sorry. When I told parents I am doing IPL I had several complain because they didn’t want their child to get less attention (since they only wan DL). Can’t win.

Focus on the Fall and pushing DCPS to just make a virtual school for families who want it so we can be open 5 days a week, no simulcast or hybrid.

Teachers aren't lawyers or psychiatrists. Teachers aren't office workers. What a bad argument.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Again, all teachers will be in-person in the fall and 98% of this school’s teachers are back in-person now. Stop with the fear mongering.

Is this an actual published statistic or are you just being hyperbolic? Because I find it hard to believe anywhere close to 98% of teachers are back in person now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At DS’s school the K and 1st teachers are staying home (I’m assuming with ADAs, no clue) and teaching virtually. The kids will be glued to laptops at school with Interventionists supervising them and unable to meet with their own small groups. It’s a ridiculous plan.

That is really lame. I can’t believe all the teachers have legit excuses.

ADA eligibility isn’t easy to get. You have to prove that you have a medical disability. I teach in a different district and have a seriously impaired immune system due to cancer treatments. I had to submit over two months of test results and a letter from my doctor. And just because you are found to be disabled, doesn’t mean that you will get the accommodation. I was refused on the grounds that it would be too difficult for my school to operate. The form letter from my district clearly stated a) yes, you are disabled and b) no, you can’t work from home. Within two weeks, I took leave and my insurance started sending me short term disability payments. There’s a sub in my classroom for the 5 or 6 students per class who chose to return in person for socialization. The 15-20 students per class period that chose to stay virtual now have someone who doesn’t know them or the curriculum. It’s true that in a normal year, I would have taken leave anyway. However, this was an opportunity to disrupt kids’ lives much less. My bank account isn’t hurting thanks to my insurance, but my heart is breaking for the kids sitting at home watching a clueless sub in the classroom with 5 students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Again, all teachers will be in-person in the fall and 98% of this school’s teachers are back in-person now. Stop with the fear mongering.

Is this an actual published statistic or are you just being hyperbolic? Because I find it hard to believe anywhere close to 98% of teachers are back in person now.

Considering my kid's high school hasn't had a single day of IPL since last spring b/c most teachers were unwilling to return, and no IPL for Term 4 for the same reason, I'm guessing this is a completely fabricated number.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, to clear up any misconceptions.

Yes, DCPS teachers are absolutely abusing ADA. The biggest ones right now are asthma and obesity. These same teachers are coming back- in person, to teach summer school at my school.

Please understand that ever single IPL could be out on the same bogus disabilities, too. Your IPL teachers are taking it for the team.

Yes, I am disgusted with the DCPS teachers. And yes- if gave them even $500 they would be all back to do IPL.

I am fairly liberal, but Trump was not wrong when he talked about democratic cities. I am happy to work in DCPS but am so happy I got my kids the heck out of this system.

Lmao. Oh wow, are you from this country? As a child my asthma was so bad I had to miss numerous days of school and went to the emergency room when a teacher forced me to run. You really have no idea how debilitating it can be.

Also obesity may not be valid to you but it depends on what the obesity is doing to a person. I have known people who have gotten compensation for their job, grated they were morbidly obese but they still got paid not to work. This is BEFORE covid.

And no, we talked about compensation before, literally all the 250+ teachers on the call said ‘hell no’ still even if there was compensation.

Tired of this black and white thinking and burst of anger, are the majority here borderline?

I’ll keep saying it, lawyer, psychiatrist, etc were able to work from home so most of them choose to do so. DCPS who is the employer, not you, your child, or your tax dollars and THEY said, ‘sure work from home.’

So if your teacher didn’t make the choice you wanted I’m sorry. When I told parents I am doing IPL I had several complain because they didn’t want their child to get less attention (since they only wan DL). Can’t win.

Focus on the Fall and pushing DCPS to just make a virtual school for families who want it so we can be open 5 days a week, no simulcast or hybrid.

Teachers aren't lawyers or psychiatrists. Teachers aren't office workers. What a bad argument.

Lawyers are psychiatrists either? Or are you really this daft?
Would you like me to say professors then? Nothing will please you but this is the truth. You’re not the employer, I’m sorry. This school year is where we are for this school year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, to clear up any misconceptions.

Yes, DCPS teachers are absolutely abusing ADA. The biggest ones right now are asthma and obesity. These same teachers are coming back- in person, to teach summer school at my school.

Please understand that ever single IPL could be out on the same bogus disabilities, too. Your IPL teachers are taking it for the team.

Yes, I am disgusted with the DCPS teachers. And yes- if gave them even $500 they would be all back to do IPL.

I am fairly liberal, but Trump was not wrong when he talked about democratic cities. I am happy to work in DCPS but am so happy I got my kids the heck out of this system.

Lmao. Oh wow, are you from this country? As a child my asthma was so bad I had to miss numerous days of school and went to the emergency room when a teacher forced me to run. You really have no idea how debilitating it can be.

Also obesity may not be valid to you but it depends on what the obesity is doing to a person. I have known people who have gotten compensation for their job, grated they were morbidly obese but they still got paid not to work. This is BEFORE covid.

And no, we talked about compensation before, literally all the 250+ teachers on the call said ‘hell no’ still even if there was compensation.

Tired of this black and white thinking and burst of anger, are the majority here borderline?

I’ll keep saying it, lawyer, psychiatrist, etc were able to work from home so most of them choose to do so. DCPS who is the employer, not you, your child, or your tax dollars and THEY said, ‘sure work from home.’

So if your teacher didn’t make the choice you wanted I’m sorry. When I told parents I am doing IPL I had several complain because they didn’t want their child to get less attention (since they only wan DL). Can’t win.

Focus on the Fall and pushing DCPS to just make a virtual school for families who want it so we can be open 5 days a week, no simulcast or hybrid.

Teachers aren't lawyers or psychiatrists. Teachers aren't office workers. What a bad argument.

Lawyers are psychiatrists either? Or are you really this daft?
Would you like me to say professors then? Nothing will please you but this is the truth. You’re not the employer, I’m sorry. This school year is where we are for this school year.

This school year is "where we are" because of poor policy making by Bowser/Ferebee and unconscionable political grandstanding by the WTU. Most schools across the country have figured out how to get kids and teachers back in the. classroom. And we might not be "the employer," but without DC parents willing to pay DC tax rates, there aren't salaries for those teachers. Or enrollment numbers the city needs to see. No one is pretending we make employment decisions. But we vote, and we should do so w/ our feet by moving if DC can't figure out how to educate our kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, to clear up any misconceptions.

Yes, DCPS teachers are absolutely abusing ADA. The biggest ones right now are asthma and obesity. These same teachers are coming back- in person, to teach summer school at my school.

Please understand that ever single IPL could be out on the same bogus disabilities, too. Your IPL teachers are taking it for the team.

Yes, I am disgusted with the DCPS teachers. And yes- if gave them even $500 they would be all back to do IPL.

I am fairly liberal, but Trump was not wrong when he talked about democratic cities. I am happy to work in DCPS but am so happy I got my kids the heck out of this system.

Lmao. Oh wow, are you from this country? As a child my asthma was so bad I had to miss numerous days of school and went to the emergency room when a teacher forced me to run. You really have no idea how debilitating it can be.

Also obesity may not be valid to you but it depends on what the obesity is doing to a person. I have known people who have gotten compensation for their job, grated they were morbidly obese but they still got paid not to work. This is BEFORE covid.

And no, we talked about compensation before, literally all the 250+ teachers on the call said ‘hell no’ still even if there was compensation.

Tired of this black and white thinking and burst of anger, are the majority here borderline?

I’ll keep saying it, lawyer, psychiatrist, etc were able to work from home so most of them choose to do so. DCPS who is the employer, not you, your child, or your tax dollars and THEY said, ‘sure work from home.’

So if your teacher didn’t make the choice you wanted I’m sorry. When I told parents I am doing IPL I had several complain because they didn’t want their child to get less attention (since they only wan DL). Can’t win.

Focus on the Fall and pushing DCPS to just make a virtual school for families who want it so we can be open 5 days a week, no simulcast or hybrid.

Teachers aren't lawyers or psychiatrists. Teachers aren't office workers. What a bad argument.

Lawyers are psychiatrists either? Or are you really this daft?
Would you like me to say professors then? Nothing will please you but this is the truth. You’re not the employer, I’m sorry. This school year is where we are for this school year.

Why were so many students in so many other school systems in person so much more than this year than DCPS students?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Again, all teachers will be in-person in the fall and 98% of this school’s teachers are back in-person now. Stop with the fear mongering.

Is this an actual published statistic or are you just being hyperbolic? Because I find it hard to believe anywhere close to 98% of teachers are back in person now.

Not being hyperbolic. At the school the original poster posted about (I think other schools got mixed in the conversation along the way) 92% of all teachers are back in person and when you deduct the teachers who are not yet allowed to be in person (because they cant work with multiple cohorts- think art/music etc.) that goes up closer to 95%. So now that I am doing the actual math, perhaps that extra 3% was an exaggeration.

I have no idea what statistics are like at other schools, just this one (where my child goes).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Again, all teachers will be in-person in the fall and 98% of this school’s teachers are back in-person now. Stop with the fear mongering.

Is this an actual published statistic or are you just being hyperbolic? Because I find it hard to believe anywhere close to 98% of teachers are back in person now.

Not being hyperbolic. At the school the original poster posted about (I think other schools got mixed in the conversation along the way) 92% of all teachers are back in person and when you deduct the teachers who are not yet allowed to be in person (because they cant work with multiple cohorts- think art/music etc.) that goes up closer to 95%. So now that I am doing the actual math, perhaps that extra 3% was an exaggeration.

I have no idea what statistics are like at other schools, just this one (where my child goes).

Thank you for clarifying. I would say your school is the exception rather than the rule for DCPS, which is why it's deeply frustrating to hear Bowser/Ferebee boasting that DC schools are "reopen." Particularly for MS and HSers, many haven't seen the inside of a classroom or a live teacher in more than a year while most of the country has managed to get kids back to school.

As for the reason why? Like Chicago, NYC, LA, and Fairfax County, it's the power of the teachers' unions, which have used the pandemic to make demands that have nothing to do with safety. Public sector unions are a blight on cities like ours (and yes, I also oppose police unions). Unions protect the worst teachers and the worst cops at the expense of the taxpayer.