Teachers/ADA eligibility

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how they can claim disability when the vaccine is available to them? I think we are going to see a big drop in enrollment in the fall. This Union is corrupt beyond repair.

There are some cancer, transplant, abd autoimmune conditions that doctors think don’t get protection from the vaccine.

But even though the coronavirus vaccines authorized for emergency use by the Food and Drug Administration are considered safe for people with compromised immune systems, some of them may not produce protective antibodies after vaccination, or any antibodies at all.
That’s why researchers are working to understand more about vaccines’ effectiveness within the immunocompromised community and how to protect the most vulnerable.
I’m immunocompromised. Will the vaccines work for me?
No one knows yet for certain, and it will likely depend on a number of factors — the individuals, the illnesses and which immune-suppressing treatments are involved in their care.
U.S. clinical trials did not specifically study the effectiveness of the coronavirus vaccines in people with compromised immune systems, so there is not yet conclusive data to show how they will ultimately respond.
But emerging research seems to suggest it will be a mixed bag — that though some immunocompromised individuals may make antibodies, others may not. And for those who do, it is not known whether the antibodies will be effective at neutralizing SARS-CoV-2, what level of antibody will be needed to protect against infection or how long the antibodies will last.

https://apple.news/A7QoWb_sDSD6vTM_bk6hIZQ

My sister had an organ transplant two years ago and got her vaxx as soon as she could on the advice of her doctor. Covid would probably kill her.

I also got the vaccine on my oncologist’s advice. AND he STILL decided it was in my best interest to not return to work in person. Wouldn’t you agree that people should follow the advice of the highly trained professionals who know them best as individuals with complex medical conditions?

Sure, how many teachers does this apply to? Will there ever numbers available?

This. I teach in NOVA and some of my colleagues used asthma as an excuse to stay virtual. My district is cracking down, though. They are requiring updated medical paperwork and talking to physicians. Family medical concerns and lack of child care are no longer acceptable reasons to stay virtual. Basically everyone has to return to the building May 3.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how they can claim disability when the vaccine is available to them? I think we are going to see a big drop in enrollment in the fall. This Union is corrupt beyond repair.

There are some cancer, transplant, abd autoimmune conditions that doctors think don’t get protection from the vaccine.

Are 30% claiming ADA?

There’s a problem with your question. You seem to think ADA is a thing you “claim”. It’s not.

Even if someone is denied an accommodation to stay home, they are still considered disabled. And there are disabled people who get accommodations other than staying home. And sometimes, what the disabled person who wants to work in person needs is not something the workplace can accommodate. That’s a situation that exists separate from Covid. I was once on sick leave for months simply because my school could not figure out a way for me to use the bathroom when I needed to. Not many people would think that was an outrageous thing for a professional to be able to do. Only for a teacher would it seem like an extreme request because we don’t treat teachers like professionals. We treat them like hourly workers.

How many teachers have been granted an accommodation to stay home and either teach DL or not teach at all since Jan 1? Since Sept 1, 2020? How many got an accommodation for IPL that schools can’t manage and so that teacher stays home? Are numbers usually made public for this?

Even if it were public it wouldn’t be helpful in. I’ve been home on leave since second quarter but it has nothing to do with COVID. So you’d get some fake outrage if you saw a statistic like 100 teachers out on paid leave not even teaching at home, not knowing maybe all 100 of them have nothing to do with COVID.

It would be interesting to compare data year over year from the last five years. How far outside the mean is 2020-2021?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how they can claim disability when the vaccine is available to them? I think we are going to see a big drop in enrollment in the fall. This Union is corrupt beyond repair.

There are some cancer, transplant, abd autoimmune conditions that doctors think don’t get protection from the vaccine.

But even though the coronavirus vaccines authorized for emergency use by the Food and Drug Administration are considered safe for people with compromised immune systems, some of them may not produce protective antibodies after vaccination, or any antibodies at all.
That’s why researchers are working to understand more about vaccines’ effectiveness within the immunocompromised community and how to protect the most vulnerable.
I’m immunocompromised. Will the vaccines work for me?
No one knows yet for certain, and it will likely depend on a number of factors — the individuals, the illnesses and which immune-suppressing treatments are involved in their care.
U.S. clinical trials did not specifically study the effectiveness of the coronavirus vaccines in people with compromised immune systems, so there is not yet conclusive data to show how they will ultimately respond.
But emerging research seems to suggest it will be a mixed bag — that though some immunocompromised individuals may make antibodies, others may not. And for those who do, it is not known whether the antibodies will be effective at neutralizing SARS-CoV-2, what level of antibody will be needed to protect against infection or how long the antibodies will last.

https://apple.news/A7QoWb_sDSD6vTM_bk6hIZQ

My sister had an organ transplant two years ago and got her vaxx as soon as she could on the advice of her doctor. Covid would probably kill her.

I also got the vaccine on my oncologist’s advice. AND he STILL decided it was in my best interest to not return to work in person. Wouldn’t you agree that people should follow the advice of the highly trained professionals who know them best as individuals with complex medical conditions?

Sure, how many teachers does this apply to? Will there ever numbers available?

This. I teach in NOVA and some of my colleagues used asthma as an excuse to stay virtual. My district is cracking down, though. They are requiring updated medical paperwork and talking to physicians. Family medical concerns and lack of child care are no longer acceptable reasons to stay virtual. Basically everyone has to return to the building May 3.

How may DC teachers have had an organ transplant or have cancer? like 1% or less. What about all the rest claiming a "disability"--its all a scam.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how they can claim disability when the vaccine is available to them? I think we are going to see a big drop in enrollment in the fall. This Union is corrupt beyond repair.

70% of teachers teach in person, yet students aren't showing up. But sure we'll blame teachers and not inconsistent parents or the mayor/chancellor too.

I'm sorry you hate that teachers have disabilities, perhaps you should go private.

where did you this 70% statistic from. its not true.

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Anonymous wrote:At DS’s school the K and 1st teachers are staying home (I’m assuming with ADAs, no clue) and teaching virtually. The kids will be glued to laptops at school with Interventionists supervising them and unable to meet with their own small groups. It’s a ridiculous plan.

That is really lame. I can’t believe all the teachers have legit excuses.

They don't. It was just the WTU flexing so that teachers who didn't want to wouldn't have to return in-person to teaching again this year. And the mayor, as usual, caved. Parents should keep a close eye on this for the fall. There are still far too many teachers who would prefer their shoddy Zoom / Microsoft Teams lessons and 4 days a week work schedule to actually doing their jobs. Don't get me started on the number of high school teachers who spend 10 minutes with their classes then disappear for the rest of the hour. To say nothing of their refusing to grade the many assignments they give their students. The WTU and this city's teachers/administrators have a lot of work to do if they want to regain parents/students' trust and respect. Compared to the many workers who stayed on the job throughout the pandemic, (including many daycare providers and private school teachers), DC's public school teachers/ administrators are an embarrassment.

What are you talking about? How do you know the teachers didn’t qualify for ADA? Got a feeling or telepathy? Or you just know better than everyone else?

Oh please. They can say that they have BMI over 30 and claim ADA. I bet if you followed all the teachers who are making the ADA claim half of them would be doing activities in their free time that that are riskier than if they actually came to work and did the job they are paid to do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how they can claim disability when the vaccine is available to them? I think we are going to see a big drop in enrollment in the fall. This Union is corrupt beyond repair.

There are some cancer, transplant, abd autoimmune conditions that doctors think don’t get protection from the vaccine.

Are 30% claiming ADA?

There’s a problem with your question. You seem to think ADA is a thing you “claim”. It’s not.

Even if someone is denied an accommodation to stay home, they are still considered disabled. And there are disabled people who get accommodations other than staying home. And sometimes, what the disabled person who wants to work in person needs is not something the workplace can accommodate. That’s a situation that exists separate from Covid. I was once on sick leave for months simply because my school could not figure out a way for me to use the bathroom when I needed to. Not many people would think that was an outrageous thing for a professional to be able to do. Only for a teacher would it seem like an extreme request because we don’t treat teachers like professionals. We treat them like hourly workers.

How many teachers have been granted an accommodation to stay home and either teach DL or not teach at all since Jan 1? Since Sept 1, 2020? How many got an accommodation for IPL that schools can’t manage and so that teacher stays home? Are numbers usually made public for this?

Even if it were public it wouldn’t be helpful in. I’ve been home on leave since second quarter but it has nothing to do with COVID. So you’d get some fake outrage if you saw a statistic like 100 teachers out on paid leave not even teaching at home, not knowing maybe all 100 of them have nothing to do with COVID.

This is my situation. I would still have taken leave right now even if COVID had never happened. It was a coincidence that this is when my cancer was detected. Certainly Covid poses a special risk to me as a cancer patient and my doctor was not at all comfortable with me returning even after full vaccination. However, it would be a bit much to expect me to not take leave during this time.

People who act as though every teacher on leave is due to COVID fear are no different than those who believe every divorce or suicide or business failure is directly due to the pandemic. Sometimes life just keeps the hits coming and your private tragedies are not caused by a larger societal crisis, just contemporary.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how they can claim disability when the vaccine is available to them? I think we are going to see a big drop in enrollment in the fall. This Union is corrupt beyond repair.

There are some cancer, transplant, abd autoimmune conditions that doctors think don’t get protection from the vaccine.

Are 30% claiming ADA?

There’s a problem with your question. You seem to think ADA is a thing you “claim”. It’s not.

Even if someone is denied an accommodation to stay home, they are still considered disabled. And there are disabled people who get accommodations other than staying home. And sometimes, what the disabled person who wants to work in person needs is not something the workplace can accommodate. That’s a situation that exists separate from Covid. I was once on sick leave for months simply because my school could not figure out a way for me to use the bathroom when I needed to. Not many people would think that was an outrageous thing for a professional to be able to do. Only for a teacher would it seem like an extreme request because we don’t treat teachers like professionals. We treat them like hourly workers.

How many teachers have been granted an accommodation to stay home and either teach DL or not teach at all since Jan 1? Since Sept 1, 2020? How many got an accommodation for IPL that schools can’t manage and so that teacher stays home? Are numbers usually made public for this?

Even if it were public it wouldn’t be helpful in. I’ve been home on leave since second quarter but it has nothing to do with COVID. So you’d get some fake outrage if you saw a statistic like 100 teachers out on paid leave not even teaching at home, not knowing maybe all 100 of them have nothing to do with COVID.

This is my situation. I would still have taken leave right now even if COVID had never happened. It was a coincidence that this is when my cancer was detected. Certainly Covid poses a special risk to me as a cancer patient and my doctor was not at all comfortable with me returning even after full vaccination. However, it would be a bit much to expect me to not take leave during this time.

People who act as though every teacher on leave is due to COVID fear are no different than those who believe every divorce or suicide or business failure is directly due to the pandemic. Sometimes life just keeps the hits coming and your private tragedies are not caused by a larger societal crisis, just contemporary.

of course. but when there are situations like every single K teacher refusing to return, one starts to wonder.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how they can claim disability when the vaccine is available to them? I think we are going to see a big drop in enrollment in the fall. This Union is corrupt beyond repair.

There are some cancer, transplant, abd autoimmune conditions that doctors think don’t get protection from the vaccine.

Are 30% claiming ADA?

There’s a problem with your question. You seem to think ADA is a thing you “claim”. It’s not.

Even if someone is denied an accommodation to stay home, they are still considered disabled. And there are disabled people who get accommodations other than staying home. And sometimes, what the disabled person who wants to work in person needs is not something the workplace can accommodate. That’s a situation that exists separate from Covid. I was once on sick leave for months simply because my school could not figure out a way for me to use the bathroom when I needed to. Not many people would think that was an outrageous thing for a professional to be able to do. Only for a teacher would it seem like an extreme request because we don’t treat teachers like professionals. We treat them like hourly workers.

How many teachers have been granted an accommodation to stay home and either teach DL or not teach at all since Jan 1? Since Sept 1, 2020? How many got an accommodation for IPL that schools can’t manage and so that teacher stays home? Are numbers usually made public for this?

Even if it were public it wouldn’t be helpful in. I’ve been home on leave since second quarter but it has nothing to do with COVID. So you’d get some fake outrage if you saw a statistic like 100 teachers out on paid leave not even teaching at home, not knowing maybe all 100 of them have nothing to do with COVID.

This is my situation. I would still have taken leave right now even if COVID had never happened. It was a coincidence that this is when my cancer was detected. Certainly Covid poses a special risk to me as a cancer patient and my doctor was not at all comfortable with me returning even after full vaccination. However, it would be a bit much to expect me to not take leave during this time.

People who act as though every teacher on leave is due to COVID fear are no different than those who believe every divorce or suicide or business failure is directly due to the pandemic. Sometimes life just keeps the hits coming and your private tragedies are not caused by a larger societal crisis, just contemporary.

of course. but when there are situations like every single K teacher refusing to return, one starts to wonder.

How many schools had every single K teacher refuse to return? And how many teachers per school is that exactly? What is the profile of those teachers? My oldest DD was at a school with just three K teachers and they were all women in their 60s. One was a BC survivor. Another had a severely disabled adult son at home. If this pandemic had happened then, I would have understood if 100% of the K teachers there stayed home.

I think though that there’s something telling about the school’s admin or the parent community in a case like that. Teachers don’t trust admin and the parents to keep them safe. Probably based on years of bad experiences with sick kids being allowed to attend rather than being sent home.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how they can claim disability when the vaccine is available to them? I think we are going to see a big drop in enrollment in the fall. This Union is corrupt beyond repair.

There are some cancer, transplant, abd autoimmune conditions that doctors think don’t get protection from the vaccine.

Are 30% claiming ADA?

There’s a problem with your question. You seem to think ADA is a thing you “claim”. It’s not.

Even if someone is denied an accommodation to stay home, they are still considered disabled. And there are disabled people who get accommodations other than staying home. And sometimes, what the disabled person who wants to work in person needs is not something the workplace can accommodate. That’s a situation that exists separate from Covid. I was once on sick leave for months simply because my school could not figure out a way for me to use the bathroom when I needed to. Not many people would think that was an outrageous thing for a professional to be able to do. Only for a teacher would it seem like an extreme request because we don’t treat teachers like professionals. We treat them like hourly workers.

How many teachers have been granted an accommodation to stay home and either teach DL or not teach at all since Jan 1? Since Sept 1, 2020? How many got an accommodation for IPL that schools can’t manage and so that teacher stays home? Are numbers usually made public for this?

Even if it were public it wouldn’t be helpful in. I’ve been home on leave since second quarter but it has nothing to do with COVID. So you’d get some fake outrage if you saw a statistic like 100 teachers out on paid leave not even teaching at home, not knowing maybe all 100 of them have nothing to do with COVID.

This is my situation. I would still have taken leave right now even if COVID had never happened. It was a coincidence that this is when my cancer was detected. Certainly Covid poses a special risk to me as a cancer patient and my doctor was not at all comfortable with me returning even after full vaccination. However, it would be a bit much to expect me to not take leave during this time.

People who act as though every teacher on leave is due to COVID fear are no different than those who believe every divorce or suicide or business failure is directly due to the pandemic. Sometimes life just keeps the hits coming and your private tragedies are not caused by a larger societal crisis, just contemporary.

Which is why year over year data would be useful.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how they can claim disability when the vaccine is available to them? I think we are going to see a big drop in enrollment in the fall. This Union is corrupt beyond repair.

There are some cancer, transplant, abd autoimmune conditions that doctors think don’t get protection from the vaccine.

Are 30% claiming ADA?

There’s a problem with your question. You seem to think ADA is a thing you “claim”. It’s not.

Even if someone is denied an accommodation to stay home, they are still considered disabled. And there are disabled people who get accommodations other than staying home. And sometimes, what the disabled person who wants to work in person needs is not something the workplace can accommodate. That’s a situation that exists separate from Covid. I was once on sick leave for months simply because my school could not figure out a way for me to use the bathroom when I needed to. Not many people would think that was an outrageous thing for a professional to be able to do. Only for a teacher would it seem like an extreme request because we don’t treat teachers like professionals. We treat them like hourly workers.

How many teachers have been granted an accommodation to stay home and either teach DL or not teach at all since Jan 1? Since Sept 1, 2020? How many got an accommodation for IPL that schools can’t manage and so that teacher stays home? Are numbers usually made public for this?

Even if it were public it wouldn’t be helpful in. I’ve been home on leave since second quarter but it has nothing to do with COVID. So you’d get some fake outrage if you saw a statistic like 100 teachers out on paid leave not even teaching at home, not knowing maybe all 100 of them have nothing to do with COVID.

This is my situation. I would still have taken leave right now even if COVID had never happened. It was a coincidence that this is when my cancer was detected. Certainly Covid poses a special risk to me as a cancer patient and my doctor was not at all comfortable with me returning even after full vaccination. However, it would be a bit much to expect me to not take leave during this time.

People who act as though every teacher on leave is due to COVID fear are no different than those who believe every divorce or suicide or business failure is directly due to the pandemic. Sometimes life just keeps the hits coming and your private tragedies are not caused by a larger societal crisis, just contemporary.

Which is why year over year data would be useful.

How would you get that data without years of violating teachers’ health privacy? I had a friend who had second trimester miscarriages three years in a row and took FMLA leave to physically recover. It would really be invasive to record why teachers are out.

[Anonymous]

Does a teacher have to give a medical basis for requesting ADA accommodation? If so, that data can be de-identified and made available in aggregate. No need for any further disclosure.