Teachers/ADA eligibility

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:in re 10:27
There are a few key things to understand

1. There is federal ADA and DC ADA. One is very narrow- and one is very broad. (I will let you figure which is which
2. If a teacher has leave granted under DC ADA they can ABSOLUTELY be called back, IF there is parent demand for IPL. They will huff and puff and it can absolutely happen.

3. Ask your childs teacher why they won't come in. If they are big boy/girl enough to coast on virtual learning- they are big enough to hear it- from you.

Here is the thing. These people posting on here WOULD NEVER say this stuff to the teachers face. Can you imagine asking your teacher to by they are refusing to come in and coasting by teaching virtually and they tell you they are currently receiving chemo for a cancer diagnosis? How dumb would you feel to demand to know someone business and then find out they have a valid reason.

Then they need to be on a leave of absence. And another person needs to cover their in-person classes. I’m a former teacher (and I’d head to public school in a heartbeat if they wouldn’t make me go to some shitty accredited program despite having taught in the best private and charter schools in the country) and virtual learning on its own DOES NOT WORK.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why is there an assumption that the accommodations teachers have requested and/or received are not valid?

hard to believe half the teachers have "disabilities"- unless they can provide a written medical exemption, they should be forced to return. they had their chances to be vaccinated. Its laziness pure and simple.

Isn’t that how they got their ADA exemption?

It appears some people believe disabilities are not common.

DP here. No. They got their DC ADA exemptions (not Federal ADA) by having underlying conditions that could lead to them dying if they caught COVID. They obviously didn't have disabilities preventing them from teaching in person, because they taught in person before. But now there's a vaccine, and in DC there have been zero covid deaths for vaccinated people so there's no reason to continue this accommodation of working remotely. There's no valid excuse for a teacher to work from home now. It's just them continuing to game the system because they don't want to return to work for other (non-valid) reasons. Unfortunately, the current law allows them to cry obesity or asthma and stay home, although obesity and asthma are no longer valid reasons for reasonable accommodations of telework because teachers have access to a vaccine.

In the real world, teaching is an in person job, and the accommodation of working from home to teach K-12 wouldn't be considered reasonable by any judge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why is there an assumption that the accommodations teachers have requested and/or received are not valid?

hard to believe half the teachers have "disabilities"- unless they can provide a written medical exemption, they should be forced to return. they had their chances to be vaccinated. Its laziness pure and simple.

Isn’t that how they got their ADA exemption?

It appears some people believe disabilities are not common.

DP here. No. They got their DC ADA exemptions (not Federal ADA) by having underlying conditions that could lead to them dying if they caught COVID. They obviously didn't have disabilities preventing them from teaching in person, because they taught in person before. But now there's a vaccine, and in DC there have been zero covid deaths for vaccinated people so there's no reason to continue this accommodation of working remotely. There's no valid excuse for a teacher to work from home now. It's just them continuing to game the system because they don't want to return to work for other (non-valid) reasons. Unfortunately, the current law allows them to cry obesity or asthma and stay home, although obesity and asthma are no longer valid reasons for reasonable accommodations of telework because teachers have access to a vaccine.

In the real world, teaching is an in person job, and the accommodation of working from home to teach K-12 wouldn't be considered reasonable by any judge.

I don’t think you can blame the teachers at this point. They are doing what they are allowed to do. The fault is with DC gov. If they would not allow it, it would not be happening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:in re 10:27
There are a few key things to understand

1. There is federal ADA and DC ADA. One is very narrow- and one is very broad. (I will let you figure which is which
2. If a teacher has leave granted under DC ADA they can ABSOLUTELY be called back, IF there is parent demand for IPL. They will huff and puff and it can absolutely happen.

3. Ask your childs teacher why they won't come in. If they are big boy/girl enough to coast on virtual learning- they are big enough to hear it- from you.

Here is the thing. These people posting on here WOULD NEVER say this stuff to the teachers face. Can you imagine asking your teacher to by they are refusing to come in and coasting by teaching virtually and they tell you they are currently receiving chemo for a cancer diagnosis? How dumb would you feel to demand to know someone business and then find out they have a valid reason.

Then they need to be on a leave of absence. And another person needs to cover their in-person classes. I’m a former teacher (and I’d head to public school in a heartbeat if they wouldn’t make me go to some shitty accredited program despite having taught in the best private and charter schools in the country) and virtual learning on its own DOES NOT WORK.

My post was a more about the fact that some parents believe they are entitled to Heath information about teachers. They are not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:in re 10:27
There are a few key things to understand

1. There is federal ADA and DC ADA. One is very narrow- and one is very broad. (I will let you figure which is which
2. If a teacher has leave granted under DC ADA they can ABSOLUTELY be called back, IF there is parent demand for IPL. They will huff and puff and it can absolutely happen.

3. Ask your childs teacher why they won't come in. If they are big boy/girl enough to coast on virtual learning- they are big enough to hear it- from you.

Here is the thing. These people posting on here WOULD NEVER say this stuff to the teachers face. Can you imagine asking your teacher to by they are refusing to come in and coasting by teaching virtually and they tell you they are currently receiving chemo for a cancer diagnosis? How dumb would you feel to demand to know someone business and then find out they have a valid reason.

Then they need to be on a leave of absence. And another person needs to cover their in-person classes. I’m a former teacher (and I’d head to public school in a heartbeat if they wouldn’t make me go to some shitty accredited program despite having taught in the best private and charter schools in the country) and virtual learning on its own DOES NOT WORK.

My post was a more about the fact that some parents believe they are entitled to Heath information about teachers. They are not.

Definitely agree with you there. My point is that remaining virtual is not a reasonable accommodation as it places an undue burden on the school (specifically the students whose education is being sacrificed).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:in re 10:27
There are a few key things to understand

1. There is federal ADA and DC ADA. One is very narrow- and one is very broad. (I will let you figure which is which
2. If a teacher has leave granted under DC ADA they can ABSOLUTELY be called back, IF there is parent demand for IPL. They will huff and puff and it can absolutely happen.

3. Ask your childs teacher why they won't come in. If they are big boy/girl enough to coast on virtual learning- they are big enough to hear it- from you.

Here is the thing. These people posting on here WOULD NEVER say this stuff to the teachers face. Can you imagine asking your teacher to by they are refusing to come in and coasting by teaching virtually and they tell you they are currently receiving chemo for a cancer diagnosis? How dumb would you feel to demand to know someone business and then find out they have a valid reason.

Then they need to be on a leave of absence. And another person needs to cover their in-person classes. I’m a former teacher (and I’d head to public school in a heartbeat if they wouldn’t make me go to some shitty accredited program despite having taught in the best private and charter schools in the country) and virtual learning on its own DOES NOT WORK.

My post was a more about the fact that some parents believe they are entitled to Heath information about teachers. They are not.

Definitely agree with you there. My point is that remaining virtual is not a reasonable accommodation as it places an undue burden on the school (specifically the students whose education is being sacrificed).

Agree. If we get to next year, and virtual school is allowed as a reasonable accommodation, we are in trouble for in person school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:in re 10:27
There are a few key things to understand

1. There is federal ADA and DC ADA. One is very narrow- and one is very broad. (I will let you figure which is which
2. If a teacher has leave granted under DC ADA they can ABSOLUTELY be called back, IF there is parent demand for IPL. They will huff and puff and it can absolutely happen.

3. Ask your childs teacher why they won't come in. If they are big boy/girl enough to coast on virtual learning- they are big enough to hear it- from you.

Here is the thing. These people posting on here WOULD NEVER say this stuff to the teachers face. Can you imagine asking your teacher to by they are refusing to come in and coasting by teaching virtually and they tell you they are currently receiving chemo for a cancer diagnosis? How dumb would you feel to demand to know someone business and then find out they have a valid reason.

Then they need to be on a leave of absence. And another person needs to cover their in-person classes. I’m a former teacher (and I’d head to public school in a heartbeat if they wouldn’t make me go to some shitty accredited program despite having taught in the best private and charter schools in the country) and virtual learning on its own DOES NOT WORK.

My post was a more about the fact that some parents believe they are entitled to Heath information about teachers. They are not.

Definitely agree with you there. My point is that remaining virtual is not a reasonable accommodation as it places an undue burden on the school (specifically the students whose education is being sacrificed).

Agree. If we get to next year, and virtual school is allowed as a reasonable accommodation, we are in trouble for in person school.

I dont even want to think about this possibility. As if it wasn't bad enough already having half the teachers stay home in the 4th quarter, they now have pulled specialists to cover the classes in person for those teachers. Kids no longer can receive reading and math intervention at our school now. They are completely suffering.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why is there an assumption that the accommodations teachers have requested and/or received are not valid?

hard to believe half the teachers have "disabilities"- unless they can provide a written medical exemption, they should be forced to return. they had their chances to be vaccinated. Its laziness pure and simple.

Isn’t that how they got their ADA exemption?

It appears some people believe disabilities are not common.

DP here. No. They got their DC ADA exemptions (not Federal ADA) by having underlying conditions that could lead to them dying if they caught COVID. They obviously didn't have disabilities preventing them from teaching in person, because they taught in person before. But now there's a vaccine, and in DC there have been zero covid deaths for vaccinated people so there's no reason to continue this accommodation of working remotely. There's no valid excuse for a teacher to work from home now. It's just them continuing to game the system because they don't want to return to work for other (non-valid) reasons. Unfortunately, the current law allows them to cry obesity or asthma and stay home, although obesity and asthma are no longer valid reasons for reasonable accommodations of telework because teachers have access to a vaccine.

In the real world, teaching is an in person job, and the accommodation of working from home to teach K-12 wouldn't be considered reasonable by any judge.

I don’t think you can blame the teachers at this point. They are doing what they are allowed to do. The fault is with DC gov. If they would not allow it, it would not be happening.

I absolutely blame the teachers along with DC government. WTU refused to send the teachers to work and put immense political pressure to obstruct reopening. I loathe the teachers sitting home on 2/3 pay to care for their children because they claim they can't work and care for their children because . . . schools are closed because they refused to return to work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:in re 10:27
There are a few key things to understand

1. There is federal ADA and DC ADA. One is very narrow- and one is very broad. (I will let you figure which is which
2. If a teacher has leave granted under DC ADA they can ABSOLUTELY be called back, IF there is parent demand for IPL. They will huff and puff and it can absolutely happen.

3. Ask your childs teacher why they won't come in. If they are big boy/girl enough to coast on virtual learning- they are big enough to hear it- from you.

Here is the thing. These people posting on here WOULD NEVER say this stuff to the teachers face. Can you imagine asking your teacher to by they are refusing to come in and coasting by teaching virtually and they tell you they are currently receiving chemo for a cancer diagnosis? How dumb would you feel to demand to know someone business and then find out they have a valid reason.

Then they need to be on a leave of absence. And another person needs to cover their in-person classes. I’m a former teacher (and I’d head to public school in a heartbeat if they wouldn’t make me go to some shitty accredited program despite having taught in the best private and charter schools in the country) and virtual learning on its own DOES NOT WORK.

My post was a more about the fact that some parents believe they are entitled to Heath information about teachers. They are not.

Definitely agree with you there. My point is that remaining virtual is not a reasonable accommodation as it places an undue burden on the school (specifically the students whose education is being sacrificed).

Agree. If we get to next year, and virtual school is allowed as a reasonable accommodation, we are in trouble for in person school.

I dont even want to think about this possibility. As if it wasn't bad enough already having half the teachers stay home in the 4th quarter, they now have pulled specialists to cover the classes in person for those teachers. Kids no longer can receive reading and math intervention at our school now. They are completely suffering.

Would you stop with this lie? 70% of teachers are doing IPL. Oh and BTW my HS teacher friends are doing 'IPL' with 0/20+ students showing up. Lol.
DCPS needs to do a big PK-12th online school for people who want it so it doesn't interfere with individual schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why is there an assumption that the accommodations teachers have requested and/or received are not valid?

hard to believe half the teachers have "disabilities"- unless they can provide a written medical exemption, they should be forced to return. they had their chances to be vaccinated. Its laziness pure and simple.

Isn’t that how they got their ADA exemption?

It appears some people believe disabilities are not common.

DP here. No. They got their DC ADA exemptions (not Federal ADA) by having underlying conditions that could lead to them dying if they caught COVID. They obviously didn't have disabilities preventing them from teaching in person, because they taught in person before. But now there's a vaccine, and in DC there have been zero covid deaths for vaccinated people so there's no reason to continue this accommodation of working remotely. There's no valid excuse for a teacher to work from home now. It's just them continuing to game the system because they don't want to return to work for other (non-valid) reasons. Unfortunately, the current law allows them to cry obesity or asthma and stay home, although obesity and asthma are no longer valid reasons for reasonable accommodations of telework because teachers have access to a vaccine.

In the real world, teaching is an in person job, and the accommodation of working from home to teach K-12 wouldn't be considered reasonable by any judge.

I don’t think you can blame the teachers at this point. They are doing what they are allowed to do. The fault is with DC gov. If they would not allow it, it would not be happening.

I absolutely blame the teachers along with DC government. WTU refused to send the teachers to work and put immense political pressure to obstruct reopening. I loathe the teachers sitting home on 2/3 pay to care for their children because they claim they can't work and care for their children because . . . schools are closed because they refused to return to work.

They don't care sweetie.

[Anonymous]

In MCPS, way too many teachers returned in person to classrooms with 1 or 2 students physically there and the rest still on Zoom. Some of those in-person students now want to switch to virtual.

[Anonymous]

I don’t understand how they can claim disability when the vaccine is available to them? I think we are going to see a big drop in enrollment in the fall. This Union is corrupt beyond repair.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how they can claim disability when the vaccine is available to them? I think we are going to see a big drop in enrollment in the fall. This Union is corrupt beyond repair.

70% of teachers teach in person, yet students aren't showing up. But sure we'll blame teachers and not inconsistent parents or the mayor/chancellor too.

I'm sorry you hate that teachers have disabilities, perhaps you should go private.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how they can claim disability when the vaccine is available to them? I think we are going to see a big drop in enrollment in the fall. This Union is corrupt beyond repair.

There are some cancer, transplant, abd autoimmune conditions that doctors think don’t get protection from the vaccine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how they can claim disability when the vaccine is available to them? I think we are going to see a big drop in enrollment in the fall. This Union is corrupt beyond repair.

There are some cancer, transplant, abd autoimmune conditions that doctors think don’t get protection from the vaccine.

Are 30% claiming ADA?