Teachers/ADA eligibility

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So, to clear up any misconceptions.

Yes, DCPS teachers are absolutely abusing ADA. The biggest ones right now are asthma and obesity. These same teachers are coming back- in person, to teach summer school at my school.

Please understand that ever single IPL could be out on the same bogus disabilities, too. Your IPL teachers are taking it for the team.

Yes, I am disgusted with the DCPS teachers. And yes- if gave them even $500 they would be all back to do IPL.

I am fairly liberal, but Trump was not wrong when he talked about democratic cities. I am happy to work in DCPS but am so happy I got my kids the heck out of this system.

Lmao. Oh wow, are you from this country? As a child my asthma was so bad I had to miss numerous days of school and went to the emergency room when a teacher forced me to run. You really have no idea how debilitating it can be.

Also obesity may not be valid to you but it depends on what the obesity is doing to a person. I have known people who have gotten compensation for their job, grated they were morbidly obese but they still got paid not to work. This is BEFORE covid.

And no, we talked about compensation before, literally all the 250+ teachers on the call said ‘hell no’ still even if there was compensation.

Tired of this black and white thinking and burst of anger, are the majority here borderline?

I’ll keep saying it, lawyer, psychiatrist, etc were able to work from home so most of them choose to do so. DCPS who is the employer, not you, your child, or your tax dollars and THEY said, ‘sure work from home.’

So if your teacher didn’t make the choice you wanted I’m sorry. When I told parents I am doing IPL I had several complain because they didn’t want their child to get less attention (since they only wan DL). Can’t win.

Focus on the Fall and pushing DCPS to just make a virtual school for families who want it so we can be open 5 days a week, no simulcast or hybrid.

Teachers aren't lawyers or psychiatrists. Teachers aren't office workers. What a bad argument.

Lawyers are psychiatrists either? Or are you really this daft?
Would you like me to say professors then? Nothing will please you but this is the truth. You’re not the employer, I’m sorry. This school year is where we are for this school year.

This school year is "where we are" because of poor policy making by Bowser/Ferebee and unconscionable political grandstanding by the WTU. Most schools across the country have figured out how to get kids and teachers back in the. classroom. And we might not be "the employer," but without DC parents willing to pay DC tax rates, there aren't salaries for those teachers. Or enrollment numbers the city needs to see. No one is pretending we make employment decisions. But we vote, and we should do so w/ our feet by moving if DC can't figure out how to educate our kids.

Ah yes, because ONLY DC parents pay taxes. I'd wager the 1% pays most of the teacher salaries, as in not us.
So you can move but it won't change anything for teachers, it's weird that people keep bringing up their salaries like they are planning to do some crazy 'we are leaving' movement together to somehow lower teacher pay. Life keeps moving on without us.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Again, all teachers will be in-person in the fall and 98% of this school’s teachers are back in-person now. Stop with the fear mongering.

Is this an actual published statistic or are you just being hyperbolic? Because I find it hard to believe anywhere close to 98% of teachers are back in person now.

Not being hyperbolic. At the school the original poster posted about (I think other schools got mixed in the conversation along the way) 92% of all teachers are back in person and when you deduct the teachers who are not yet allowed to be in person (because they cant work with multiple cohorts- think art/music etc.) that goes up closer to 95%. So now that I am doing the actual math, perhaps that extra 3% was an exaggeration.

I have no idea what statistics are like at other schools, just this one (where my child goes).

Thank you for clarifying. I would say your school is the exception rather than the rule for DCPS, which is why it's deeply frustrating to hear Bowser/Ferebee boasting that DC schools are "reopen." Particularly for MS and HSers, many haven't seen the inside of a classroom or a live teacher in more than a year while most of the country has managed to get kids back to school.

As for the reason why? Like Chicago, NYC, LA, and Fairfax County, it's the power of the teachers' unions, which have used the pandemic to make demands that have nothing to do with safety. Public sector unions are a blight on cities like ours (and yes, I also oppose police unions). Unions protect the worst teachers and the worst cops at the expense of the taxpayer.

Ah yes, cause teachers go around killing POC. Totally the same.

And what many of these cities have in common is an incompetent school system, of course you're going to pay when teachers were previously angry. You don't want to risk your life for that. And I'm talking about March 2020- Nov 2020, not now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Again, all teachers will be in-person in the fall and 98% of this school’s teachers are back in-person now. Stop with the fear mongering.

Is this an actual published statistic or are you just being hyperbolic? Because I find it hard to believe anywhere close to 98% of teachers are back in person now.

Not being hyperbolic. At the school the original poster posted about (I think other schools got mixed in the conversation along the way) 92% of all teachers are back in person and when you deduct the teachers who are not yet allowed to be in person (because they cant work with multiple cohorts- think art/music etc.) that goes up closer to 95%. So now that I am doing the actual math, perhaps that extra 3% was an exaggeration.

I have no idea what statistics are like at other schools, just this one (where my child goes).

Thank you for clarifying. I would say your school is the exception rather than the rule for DCPS, which is why it's deeply frustrating to hear Bowser/Ferebee boasting that DC schools are "reopen." Particularly for MS and HSers, many haven't seen the inside of a classroom or a live teacher in more than a year while most of the country has managed to get kids back to school.

As for the reason why? Like Chicago, NYC, LA, and Fairfax County, it's the power of the teachers' unions, which have used the pandemic to make demands that have nothing to do with safety. Public sector unions are a blight on cities like ours (and yes, I also oppose police unions). Unions protect the worst teachers and the worst cops at the expense of the taxpayer.

Ah yes, cause teachers go around killing POC. Totally the same.

And what many of these cities have in common is an incompetent school system, of course you're going to pay when teachers were previously angry. You don't want to risk your life for that. And I'm talking about March 2020- Nov 2020, not now.

Wow. Way to deliberately miss the point. No one is equating the job of law enforcement with the job of teachers. The point was that unions protect their members, often at the expense of the public interest.

I agree these cities all have incompetent school systems. They've also been run by politicians the same party for decades -- the same party that is beholden to unions for $$ and votes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Again, all teachers will be in-person in the fall and 98% of this school’s teachers are back in-person now. Stop with the fear mongering.

Is this an actual published statistic or are you just being hyperbolic? Because I find it hard to believe anywhere close to 98% of teachers are back in person now.

Not being hyperbolic. At the school the original poster posted about (I think other schools got mixed in the conversation along the way) 92% of all teachers are back in person and when you deduct the teachers who are not yet allowed to be in person (because they cant work with multiple cohorts- think art/music etc.) that goes up closer to 95%. So now that I am doing the actual math, perhaps that extra 3% was an exaggeration.

I have no idea what statistics are like at other schools, just this one (where my child goes).

Thank you for clarifying. I would say your school is the exception rather than the rule for DCPS, which is why it's deeply frustrating to hear Bowser/Ferebee boasting that DC schools are "reopen." Particularly for MS and HSers, many haven't seen the inside of a classroom or a live teacher in more than a year while most of the country has managed to get kids back to school.

As for the reason why? Like Chicago, NYC, LA, and Fairfax County, it's the power of the teachers' unions, which have used the pandemic to make demands that have nothing to do with safety. Public sector unions are a blight on cities like ours (and yes, I also oppose police unions). Unions protect the worst teachers and the worst cops at the expense of the taxpayer.

Ah yes, cause teachers go around killing POC. Totally the same.

And what many of these cities have in common is an incompetent school system, of course you're going to pay when teachers were previously angry. You don't want to risk your life for that. And I'm talking about March 2020- Nov 2020, not now.

Why talk about 2020? That time is past and those opportunities are lost. So let’s talk about now. Why aren’t more DCPS schools, esp MSs and HSs, open now?

[Anonymous]

why is there an assumption that the accommodations teachers have requested and/or received are not valid?

[Anonymous]

Hard to tell without data. Will DCPS/DCPCS and the WTU release data to the public? How many teachers are claiming ADA?

[Anonymous]

As a teacher, I wish I had known there was an option to say no to IPL. I’m in the building while the principal’s favorites are home.

[Anonymous]

There will be layoffs. Looks like 12,000 fewer students in lottery this year. And that certainly isn't because all the parents are so satisfied with their current schools. Less students, less money to school, less teachers needed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:why is there an assumption that the accommodations teachers have requested and/or received are not valid?

If it is valid I am VERY concerned by the health of the teachers at my school since a majority of them our virtual teaching.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, I wish I had known there was an option to say no to IPL. I’m in the building while the principal’s favorites are home.

+1

[Anonymous]

On my kid’s team at Deal 80% of the teachers are back. Now my kid doesn’t get to actually see all of them but that’s a different thread...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, I wish I had known there was an option to say no to IPL. I’m in the building while the principal’s favorites are home.

Oh, you can still get an ADA. We all can.

That is my point. Everyone can qualify for these bogus ADAs. The folks with integrity are not trying game the system.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, I wish I had known there was an option to say no to IPL. I’m in the building while the principal’s favorites are home.

+1

I don't feel sorry for you though. But I can empathize with a f*cker for an admin. Mine only forced 2 teachers to return and that was because those grade just had way too may parents for us to say no.
I am back too but I volunteered because it's the right thing to do for my kids. Been in perso for months and no covid cases.

[Anonymous]

With very little exception---

-decent teachers have returned. The total and complete duds are still at home.

There are two teachers in my kid's elementary school who are known for being horrendous. They have phoned it in for YEARS. Of course, they are both refusing to come in.

In the middle school---of my kid's 6 teachers---the 4 strong ones are back. The mediocre one is not. The horrendous one (who doesn't grade until the last day of each quarter, who plain old doesn't show up for classes every 10 days or so) is of course refusing to come in.

[Anonymous]

If they fired everyone who is refusing to come back, the quality of the entire system would markedly increase. There is almost a 1:1 correlation with incompetence.