Teachers/ADA eligibility

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how they can claim disability when the vaccine is available to them? I think we are going to see a big drop in enrollment in the fall. This Union is corrupt beyond repair.

There are some cancer, transplant, abd autoimmune conditions that doctors think don’t get protection from the vaccine.

Are 30% claiming ADA?

I'm sure some get that covid leave the mayor extended until the end of May...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:in re 10:27
There are a few key things to understand

1. There is federal ADA and DC ADA. One is very narrow- and one is very broad. (I will let you figure which is which
2. If a teacher has leave granted under DC ADA they can ABSOLUTELY be called back, IF there is parent demand for IPL. They will huff and puff and it can absolutely happen.

3. Ask your childs teacher why they won't come in. If they are big boy/girl enough to coast on virtual learning- they are big enough to hear it- from you.

Here is the thing. These people posting on here WOULD NEVER say this stuff to the teachers face. Can you imagine asking your teacher to by they are refusing to come in and coasting by teaching virtually and they tell you they are currently receiving chemo for a cancer diagnosis? How dumb would you feel to demand to know someone business and then find out they have a valid reason.

Then they need to be on a leave of absence. And another person needs to cover their in-person classes. I’m a former teacher (and I’d head to public school in a heartbeat if they wouldn’t make me go to some shitty accredited program despite having taught in the best private and charter schools in the country) and virtual learning on its own DOES NOT WORK.

My post was a more about the fact that some parents believe they are entitled to Heath information about teachers. They are not.

Definitely agree with you there. My point is that remaining virtual is not a reasonable accommodation as it places an undue burden on the school (specifically the students whose education is being sacrificed).

Agree. If we get to next year, and virtual school is allowed as a reasonable accommodation, we are in trouble for in person school.

I dont even want to think about this possibility. As if it wasn't bad enough already having half the teachers stay home in the 4th quarter, they now have pulled specialists to cover the classes in person for those teachers. Kids no longer can receive reading and math intervention at our school now. They are completely suffering.

Would you stop with this lie? 70% of teachers are doing IPL. Oh and BTW my HS teacher friends are doing 'IPL' with 0/20+ students showing up. Lol.
DCPS needs to do a big PK-12th online school for people who want it so it doesn't interfere with individual schools.

They are doing this in ACPS. One virtual school and parents have to commit by May. Everyone else is 5 days in person.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how they can claim disability when the vaccine is available to them? I think we are going to see a big drop in enrollment in the fall. This Union is corrupt beyond repair.

There are some cancer, transplant, abd autoimmune conditions that doctors think don’t get protection from the vaccine.

But even though the coronavirus vaccines authorized for emergency use by the Food and Drug Administration are considered safe for people with compromised immune systems, some of them may not produce protective antibodies after vaccination, or any antibodies at all.
That’s why researchers are working to understand more about vaccines’ effectiveness within the immunocompromised community and how to protect the most vulnerable.
I’m immunocompromised. Will the vaccines work for me?
No one knows yet for certain, and it will likely depend on a number of factors — the individuals, the illnesses and which immune-suppressing treatments are involved in their care.
U.S. clinical trials did not specifically study the effectiveness of the coronavirus vaccines in people with compromised immune systems, so there is not yet conclusive data to show how they will ultimately respond.
But emerging research seems to suggest it will be a mixed bag — that though some immunocompromised individuals may make antibodies, others may not. And for those who do, it is not known whether the antibodies will be effective at neutralizing SARS-CoV-2, what level of antibody will be needed to protect against infection or how long the antibodies will last.

https://apple.news/A7QoWb_sDSD6vTM_bk6hIZQ

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how they can claim disability when the vaccine is available to them? I think we are going to see a big drop in enrollment in the fall. This Union is corrupt beyond repair.

There are some cancer, transplant, abd autoimmune conditions that doctors think don’t get protection from the vaccine.

Are 30% claiming ADA?

There’s a problem with your question. You seem to think ADA is a thing you “claim”. It’s not.

Even if someone is denied an accommodation to stay home, they are still considered disabled. And there are disabled people who get accommodations other than staying home. And sometimes, what the disabled person who wants to work in person needs is not something the workplace can accommodate. That’s a situation that exists separate from Covid. I was once on sick leave for months simply because my school could not figure out a way for me to use the bathroom when I needed to. Not many people would think that was an outrageous thing for a professional to be able to do. Only for a teacher would it seem like an extreme request because we don’t treat teachers like professionals. We treat them like hourly workers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how they can claim disability when the vaccine is available to them? I think we are going to see a big drop in enrollment in the fall. This Union is corrupt beyond repair.

There are some cancer, transplant, abd autoimmune conditions that doctors think don’t get protection from the vaccine.

Are 30% claiming ADA?

There’s a problem with your question. You seem to think ADA is a thing you “claim”. It’s not.

Even if someone is denied an accommodation to stay home, they are still considered disabled. And there are disabled people who get accommodations other than staying home. And sometimes, what the disabled person who wants to work in person needs is not something the workplace can accommodate. That’s a situation that exists separate from Covid. I was once on sick leave for months simply because my school could not figure out a way for me to use the bathroom when I needed to. Not many people would think that was an outrageous thing for a professional to be able to do. Only for a teacher would it seem like an extreme request because we don’t treat teachers like professionals. We treat them like hourly workers.

How many teachers have been granted an accommodation to stay home and either teach DL or not teach at all since Jan 1? Since Sept 1, 2020? How many got an accommodation for IPL that schools can’t manage and so that teacher stays home? Are numbers usually made public for this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how they can claim disability when the vaccine is available to them? I think we are going to see a big drop in enrollment in the fall. This Union is corrupt beyond repair.

There are some cancer, transplant, abd autoimmune conditions that doctors think don’t get protection from the vaccine.

But even though the coronavirus vaccines authorized for emergency use by the Food and Drug Administration are considered safe for people with compromised immune systems, some of them may not produce protective antibodies after vaccination, or any antibodies at all.
That’s why researchers are working to understand more about vaccines’ effectiveness within the immunocompromised community and how to protect the most vulnerable.
I’m immunocompromised. Will the vaccines work for me?
No one knows yet for certain, and it will likely depend on a number of factors — the individuals, the illnesses and which immune-suppressing treatments are involved in their care.
U.S. clinical trials did not specifically study the effectiveness of the coronavirus vaccines in people with compromised immune systems, so there is not yet conclusive data to show how they will ultimately respond.
But emerging research seems to suggest it will be a mixed bag — that though some immunocompromised individuals may make antibodies, others may not. And for those who do, it is not known whether the antibodies will be effective at neutralizing SARS-CoV-2, what level of antibody will be needed to protect against infection or how long the antibodies will last.

https://apple.news/A7QoWb_sDSD6vTM_bk6hIZQ

My sister had an organ transplant two years ago and got her vaxx as soon as she could on the advice of her doctor. Covid would probably kill her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how they can claim disability when the vaccine is available to them? I think we are going to see a big drop in enrollment in the fall. This Union is corrupt beyond repair.

There are some cancer, transplant, abd autoimmune conditions that doctors think don’t get protection from the vaccine.

Are 30% claiming ADA?

There’s a problem with your question. You seem to think ADA is a thing you “claim”. It’s not.

Even if someone is denied an accommodation to stay home, they are still considered disabled. And there are disabled people who get accommodations other than staying home. And sometimes, what the disabled person who wants to work in person needs is not something the workplace can accommodate. That’s a situation that exists separate from Covid. I was once on sick leave for months simply because my school could not figure out a way for me to use the bathroom when I needed to. Not many people would think that was an outrageous thing for a professional to be able to do. Only for a teacher would it seem like an extreme request because we don’t treat teachers like professionals. We treat them like hourly workers.

No, that is not the reason. The reason is the teacher's job cannot effectively be done from home like other professional jobs (but not all) can. If it's a short term thing it should be accommodated with sick leave and a substitute, but it cannot lead to a teacher working from home long-term.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:in re 10:27
There are a few key things to understand

1. There is federal ADA and DC ADA. One is very narrow- and one is very broad. (I will let you figure which is which
2. If a teacher has leave granted under DC ADA they can ABSOLUTELY be called back, IF there is parent demand for IPL. They will huff and puff and it can absolutely happen.

3. Ask your childs teacher why they won't come in. If they are big boy/girl enough to coast on virtual learning- they are big enough to hear it- from you.

Here is the thing. These people posting on here WOULD NEVER say this stuff to the teachers face. Can you imagine asking your teacher to by they are refusing to come in and coasting by teaching virtually and they tell you they are currently receiving chemo for a cancer diagnosis? How dumb would you feel to demand to know someone business and then find out they have a valid reason.

Then they need to be on a leave of absence. And another person needs to cover their in-person classes. I’m a former teacher (and I’d head to public school in a heartbeat if they wouldn’t make me go to some shitty accredited program despite having taught in the best private and charter schools in the country) and virtual learning on its own DOES NOT WORK.

My post was a more about the fact that some parents believe they are entitled to Heath information about teachers. They are not.

Definitely agree with you there. My point is that remaining virtual is not a reasonable accommodation as it places an undue burden on the school (specifically the students whose education is being sacrificed).

Agree. If we get to next year, and virtual school is allowed as a reasonable accommodation, we are in trouble for in person school.

I dont even want to think about this possibility. As if it wasn't bad enough already having half the teachers stay home in the 4th quarter, they now have pulled specialists to cover the classes in person for those teachers. Kids no longer can receive reading and math intervention at our school now. They are completely suffering.

Would you stop with this lie? 70% of teachers are doing IPL. Oh and BTW my HS teacher friends are doing 'IPL' with 0/20+ students showing up. Lol.
DCPS needs to do a big PK-12th online school for people who want it so it doesn't interfere with individual schools.

Wait what lie??? 52% of our classroom teachers came back for 4th term in person...that’s a data point. Not quite subjective lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how they can claim disability when the vaccine is available to them? I think we are going to see a big drop in enrollment in the fall. This Union is corrupt beyond repair.

There are some cancer, transplant, abd autoimmune conditions that doctors think don’t get protection from the vaccine.

But even though the coronavirus vaccines authorized for emergency use by the Food and Drug Administration are considered safe for people with compromised immune systems, some of them may not produce protective antibodies after vaccination, or any antibodies at all.
That’s why researchers are working to understand more about vaccines’ effectiveness within the immunocompromised community and how to protect the most vulnerable.
I’m immunocompromised. Will the vaccines work for me?
No one knows yet for certain, and it will likely depend on a number of factors — the individuals, the illnesses and which immune-suppressing treatments are involved in their care.
U.S. clinical trials did not specifically study the effectiveness of the coronavirus vaccines in people with compromised immune systems, so there is not yet conclusive data to show how they will ultimately respond.
But emerging research seems to suggest it will be a mixed bag — that though some immunocompromised individuals may make antibodies, others may not. And for those who do, it is not known whether the antibodies will be effective at neutralizing SARS-CoV-2, what level of antibody will be needed to protect against infection or how long the antibodies will last.

https://apple.news/A7QoWb_sDSD6vTM_bk6hIZQ

My sister had an organ transplant two years ago and got her vaxx as soon as she could on the advice of her doctor. Covid would probably kill her.

I also got the vaccine on my oncologist’s advice. AND he STILL decided it was in my best interest to not return to work in person. Wouldn’t you agree that people should follow the advice of the highly trained professionals who know them best as individuals with complex medical conditions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how they can claim disability when the vaccine is available to them? I think we are going to see a big drop in enrollment in the fall. This Union is corrupt beyond repair.

There are some cancer, transplant, abd autoimmune conditions that doctors think don’t get protection from the vaccine.

Are 30% claiming ADA?

There’s a problem with your question. You seem to think ADA is a thing you “claim”. It’s not.

Even if someone is denied an accommodation to stay home, they are still considered disabled. And there are disabled people who get accommodations other than staying home. And sometimes, what the disabled person who wants to work in person needs is not something the workplace can accommodate. That’s a situation that exists separate from Covid. I was once on sick leave for months simply because my school could not figure out a way for me to use the bathroom when I needed to. Not many people would think that was an outrageous thing for a professional to be able to do. Only for a teacher would it seem like an extreme request because we don’t treat teachers like professionals. We treat them like hourly workers.

No, that is not the reason. The reason is the teacher's job cannot effectively be done from home like other professional jobs (but not all) can. If it's a short term thing it should be accommodated with sick leave and a substitute, but it cannot lead to a teacher working from home long-term.

FMLA leave is 12 weeks. That’s hardly long term.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how they can claim disability when the vaccine is available to them? I think we are going to see a big drop in enrollment in the fall. This Union is corrupt beyond repair.

There are some cancer, transplant, abd autoimmune conditions that doctors think don’t get protection from the vaccine.

Are 30% claiming ADA?

There’s a problem with your question. You seem to think ADA is a thing you “claim”. It’s not.

Even if someone is denied an accommodation to stay home, they are still considered disabled. And there are disabled people who get accommodations other than staying home. And sometimes, what the disabled person who wants to work in person needs is not something the workplace can accommodate. That’s a situation that exists separate from Covid. I was once on sick leave for months simply because my school could not figure out a way for me to use the bathroom when I needed to. Not many people would think that was an outrageous thing for a professional to be able to do. Only for a teacher would it seem like an extreme request because we don’t treat teachers like professionals. We treat them like hourly workers.

No, that is not the reason. The reason is the teacher's job cannot effectively be done from home like other professional jobs (but not all) can. If it's a short term thing it should be accommodated with sick leave and a substitute, but it cannot lead to a teacher working from home long-term.

FMLA leave is 12 weeks. That’s hardly long term.

If you take FMLA, aren't you on leave and not teaching, rather than trying to teach from home?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how they can claim disability when the vaccine is available to them? I think we are going to see a big drop in enrollment in the fall. This Union is corrupt beyond repair.

There are some cancer, transplant, abd autoimmune conditions that doctors think don’t get protection from the vaccine.

But even though the coronavirus vaccines authorized for emergency use by the Food and Drug Administration are considered safe for people with compromised immune systems, some of them may not produce protective antibodies after vaccination, or any antibodies at all.
That’s why researchers are working to understand more about vaccines’ effectiveness within the immunocompromised community and how to protect the most vulnerable.
I’m immunocompromised. Will the vaccines work for me?
No one knows yet for certain, and it will likely depend on a number of factors — the individuals, the illnesses and which immune-suppressing treatments are involved in their care.
U.S. clinical trials did not specifically study the effectiveness of the coronavirus vaccines in people with compromised immune systems, so there is not yet conclusive data to show how they will ultimately respond.
But emerging research seems to suggest it will be a mixed bag — that though some immunocompromised individuals may make antibodies, others may not. And for those who do, it is not known whether the antibodies will be effective at neutralizing SARS-CoV-2, what level of antibody will be needed to protect against infection or how long the antibodies will last.

https://apple.news/A7QoWb_sDSD6vTM_bk6hIZQ

My sister had an organ transplant two years ago and got her vaxx as soon as she could on the advice of her doctor. Covid would probably kill her.

I also got the vaccine on my oncologist’s advice. AND he STILL decided it was in my best interest to not return to work in person. Wouldn’t you agree that people should follow the advice of the highly trained professionals who know them best as individuals with complex medical conditions?

Sure, how many teachers does this apply to? Will there ever numbers available?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how they can claim disability when the vaccine is available to them? I think we are going to see a big drop in enrollment in the fall. This Union is corrupt beyond repair.

There are some cancer, transplant, abd autoimmune conditions that doctors think don’t get protection from the vaccine.

But even though the coronavirus vaccines authorized for emergency use by the Food and Drug Administration are considered safe for people with compromised immune systems, some of them may not produce protective antibodies after vaccination, or any antibodies at all.
That’s why researchers are working to understand more about vaccines’ effectiveness within the immunocompromised community and how to protect the most vulnerable.
I’m immunocompromised. Will the vaccines work for me?
No one knows yet for certain, and it will likely depend on a number of factors — the individuals, the illnesses and which immune-suppressing treatments are involved in their care.
U.S. clinical trials did not specifically study the effectiveness of the coronavirus vaccines in people with compromised immune systems, so there is not yet conclusive data to show how they will ultimately respond.
But emerging research seems to suggest it will be a mixed bag — that though some immunocompromised individuals may make antibodies, others may not. And for those who do, it is not known whether the antibodies will be effective at neutralizing SARS-CoV-2, what level of antibody will be needed to protect against infection or how long the antibodies will last.

https://apple.news/A7QoWb_sDSD6vTM_bk6hIZQ

My sister had an organ transplant two years ago and got her vaxx as soon as she could on the advice of her doctor. Covid would probably kill her.

I also got the vaccine on my oncologist’s advice. AND he STILL decided it was in my best interest to not return to work in person. Wouldn’t you agree that people should follow the advice of the highly trained professionals who know them best as individuals with complex medical conditions?

Sure, how many teachers does this apply to? Will there ever numbers available?

I seriously doubt they disaggregate the data by condition. Especially because two people with the same condition still might have different accommodations.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:why is there an assumption that the accommodations teachers have requested and/or received are not valid?

hard to believe half the teachers have "disabilities"- unless they can provide a written medical exemption, they should be forced to return. they had their chances to be vaccinated. Its laziness pure and simple.

Isn’t that how they got their ADA exemption?

It appears some people believe disabilities are not common.

DP here. No. They got their DC ADA exemptions (not Federal ADA) by having underlying conditions that could lead to them dying if they caught COVID. They obviously didn't have disabilities preventing them from teaching in person, because they taught in person before. But now there's a vaccine, and in DC there have been zero covid deaths for vaccinated people so there's no reason to continue this accommodation of working remotely. There's no valid excuse for a teacher to work from home now. It's just them continuing to game the system because they don't want to return to work for other (non-valid) reasons. Unfortunately, the current law allows them to cry obesity or asthma and stay home, although obesity and asthma are no longer valid reasons for reasonable accommodations of telework because teachers have access to a vaccine.

In the real world, teaching is an in person job, and the accommodation of working from home to teach K-12 wouldn't be considered reasonable by any judge.

I don’t think you can blame the teachers at this point. They are doing what they are allowed to do. The fault is with DC gov. If they would not allow it, it would not be happening.

I absolutely blame the teachers along with DC government. WTU refused to send the teachers to work and put immense political pressure to obstruct reopening. I loathe the teachers sitting home on 2/3 pay to care for their children because they claim they can't work and care for their children because . . . schools are closed because they refused to return to work.

They don't care sweetie.

That's hardly a point in the teachers' favor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how they can claim disability when the vaccine is available to them? I think we are going to see a big drop in enrollment in the fall. This Union is corrupt beyond repair.

There are some cancer, transplant, abd autoimmune conditions that doctors think don’t get protection from the vaccine.

Are 30% claiming ADA?

There’s a problem with your question. You seem to think ADA is a thing you “claim”. It’s not.

Even if someone is denied an accommodation to stay home, they are still considered disabled. And there are disabled people who get accommodations other than staying home. And sometimes, what the disabled person who wants to work in person needs is not something the workplace can accommodate. That’s a situation that exists separate from Covid. I was once on sick leave for months simply because my school could not figure out a way for me to use the bathroom when I needed to. Not many people would think that was an outrageous thing for a professional to be able to do. Only for a teacher would it seem like an extreme request because we don’t treat teachers like professionals. We treat them like hourly workers.

How many teachers have been granted an accommodation to stay home and either teach DL or not teach at all since Jan 1? Since Sept 1, 2020? How many got an accommodation for IPL that schools can’t manage and so that teacher stays home? Are numbers usually made public for this?

Even if it were public it wouldn’t be helpful in. I’ve been home on leave since second quarter but it has nothing to do with COVID. So you’d get some fake outrage if you saw a statistic like 100 teachers out on paid leave not even teaching at home, not knowing maybe all 100 of them have nothing to do with COVID.