Girls, 13 and 15, Charged With Murder After Armed Carjacking Near Nationals Park

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't a girl just stab another girl in the back around L'Enfant Plaza, too? I am increasingly worried about our city's children participating in violence.

Karl Racine and Charles Allen should maybe at some point be asked the tough questions about the rampant juvenile crime in the District.

They should focus on the rampant inequality that exists in the city/country and the rampant lack of opportunities for people in certain communities.

DP. Can't they do both?

These kinds of responses to discussions about increased violent crime are getting really old. Lack of opportunity and inequality are issues that should be addressed, certainly, but they are not excuses for criminal behavior. There are plenty of people who face inequality and lack of opportunity but don't kill people while trying to steal their cars.

So basically you are paying lip service to inequality, but when rubber hits the road, you are going to ignore it and throw the book at two young teens who almost certainly haven't gotten a single break in life and will have any chance at a decent future disappear with a jail sentence that will only harden them further.

Unbelievable. And his family is supposed to just supposed to shrug their shoulders? I'm sick of non-violent law abiding citizens having to pay for someone else's upbringing with their lives. That goes for every race, religion and creed. I'm sick of it!! And to lose your live to a little peer-pressured pishika 13 year old FFS! You know what? Too bad. Her mistake should cost her her life . In jail. Or maybe her mom's life for raising a monster.,

Well, thankfully the DC Youth Act makes sure that bloodthirsty tendencies of people like you will not be enacted and we won't just toss away two young lives for a mistake that went far beyond what they intended.

Wait, so the people who killed an innocent man aren't "bloodthirsty" or didn't have "blood thirsty tendencies" but the people calling for justice have "bloodthirsty tendencies" according to you?

You are effed up. Completely effed up backwards.

Guess what, I had a sh!tty childhood without support. I was alone, with one parent dead and the other parent with mental illness. Guess how many people I killed? Also guess how many times I so much as stole anything from anyone as a teenager?

No, they weren't bloodthirsty. I've seen no evidence that they had any intent to hurt the driver. In contrast, someone saying a 13-year old's "mistake should cost her her life" absolutely is blood thirsty.

where is your concern for the victim's family? Remember them? How about his life and future and plans?

And will throwing the book at these poor girls in any way help the victim or his family?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry. They tazed him. He could have died of a heart attack! This was freaking weapon!!

That would be very unlikely to occur and that wasn't remotely their intent. When we decide whether to toss away the lives of two young teens, we should look at what they intended to do much more than the end result.

They had a weapon. A man died. A hardworking father and grandfather who recently immigrated here. Do you not care? For those reading this post who DO care, there's a go fund me for him to help pay for his unexpected funeral.

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't a girl just stab another girl in the back around L'Enfant Plaza, too? I am increasingly worried about our city's children participating in violence.

Karl Racine and Charles Allen should maybe at some point be asked the tough questions about the rampant juvenile crime in the District.

They should focus on the rampant inequality that exists in the city/country and the rampant lack of opportunities for people in certain communities.

DP. Can't they do both?

These kinds of responses to discussions about increased violent crime are getting really old. Lack of opportunity and inequality are issues that should be addressed, certainly, but they are not excuses for criminal behavior. There are plenty of people who face inequality and lack of opportunity but don't kill people while trying to steal their cars.

So basically you are paying lip service to inequality, but when rubber hits the road, you are going to ignore it and throw the book at two young teens who almost certainly haven't gotten a single break in life and will have any chance at a decent future disappear with a jail sentence that will only harden them further.

Unbelievable. And his family is supposed to just supposed to shrug their shoulders? I'm sick of non-violent law abiding citizens having to pay for someone else's upbringing with their lives. That goes for every race, religion and creed. I'm sick of it!! And to lose your live to a little peer-pressured pishika 13 year old FFS! You know what? Too bad. Her mistake should cost her her life . In jail. Or maybe her mom's life for raising a monster.,

Well, thankfully the DC Youth Act makes sure that bloodthirsty tendencies of people like you will not be enacted and we won't just toss away two young lives for a mistake that went far beyond what they intended.

Wait, so the people who killed an innocent man aren't "bloodthirsty" or didn't have "blood thirsty tendencies" but the people calling for justice have "bloodthirsty tendencies" according to you?

You are effed up. Completely effed up backwards.

Guess what, I had a sh!tty childhood without support. I was alone, with one parent dead and the other parent with mental illness. Guess how many people I killed? Also guess how many times I so much as stole anything from anyone as a teenager?

No, they weren't bloodthirsty. I've seen no evidence that they had any intent to hurt the driver. In contrast, someone saying a 13-year old's "mistake should cost her her life" absolutely is blood thirsty.

where is your concern for the victim's family? Remember them? How about his life and future and plans?

And will throwing the book at these poor girls in any way help the victim or his family?

"POOR girls?!"

Are you effing kidding me?

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't a girl just stab another girl in the back around L'Enfant Plaza, too? I am increasingly worried about our city's children participating in violence.

Karl Racine and Charles Allen should maybe at some point be asked the tough questions about the rampant juvenile crime in the District.

They should focus on the rampant inequality that exists in the city/country and the rampant lack of opportunities for people in certain communities.

DP. Can't they do both?

These kinds of responses to discussions about increased violent crime are getting really old. Lack of opportunity and inequality are issues that should be addressed, certainly, but they are not excuses for criminal behavior. There are plenty of people who face inequality and lack of opportunity but don't kill people while trying to steal their cars.

So basically you are paying lip service to inequality, but when rubber hits the road, you are going to ignore it and throw the book at two young teens who almost certainly haven't gotten a single break in life and will have any chance at a decent future disappear with a jail sentence that will only harden them further.

Unbelievable. And his family is supposed to just supposed to shrug their shoulders? I'm sick of non-violent law abiding citizens having to pay for someone else's upbringing with their lives. That goes for every race, religion and creed. I'm sick of it!! And to lose your live to a little peer-pressured pishika 13 year old FFS! You know what? Too bad. Her mistake should cost her her life . In jail. Or maybe her mom's life for raising a monster.,

Well, thankfully the DC Youth Act makes sure that bloodthirsty tendencies of people like you will not be enacted and we won't just toss away two young lives for a mistake that went far beyond what they intended.

Wait, so the people who killed an innocent man aren't "bloodthirsty" or didn't have "blood thirsty tendencies" but the people calling for justice have "bloodthirsty tendencies" according to you?

You are effed up. Completely effed up backwards.

Guess what, I had a sh!tty childhood without support. I was alone, with one parent dead and the other parent with mental illness. Guess how many people I killed? Also guess how many times I so much as stole anything from anyone as a teenager?

No, they weren't bloodthirsty. I've seen no evidence that they had any intent to hurt the driver. In contrast, someone saying a 13-year old's "mistake should cost her her life" absolutely is blood thirsty.

where is your concern for the victim's family? Remember them? How about his life and future and plans?

And will throwing the book at these poor girls in any way help the victim or his family?

What is your suggestion? Let them go free?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry. They tazed him. He could have died of a heart attack! This was freaking weapon!!

That would be very unlikely to occur and that wasn't remotely their intent. When we decide whether to toss away the lives of two young teens, we should look at what they intended to do much more than the end result.

They had a weapon. A man died. A hardworking father and grandfather who recently immigrated here. Do you not care? For those reading this post who DO care, there's a go fund me for him to help pay for his unexpected funeral.

I'd be willing to contribute to that cause. That will help the family and do some actual good. Punishing these girls won't.

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't a girl just stab another girl in the back around L'Enfant Plaza, too? I am increasingly worried about our city's children participating in violence.

Karl Racine and Charles Allen should maybe at some point be asked the tough questions about the rampant juvenile crime in the District.

They should focus on the rampant inequality that exists in the city/country and the rampant lack of opportunities for people in certain communities.

DP. Can't they do both?

These kinds of responses to discussions about increased violent crime are getting really old. Lack of opportunity and inequality are issues that should be addressed, certainly, but they are not excuses for criminal behavior. There are plenty of people who face inequality and lack of opportunity but don't kill people while trying to steal their cars.

So basically you are paying lip service to inequality, but when rubber hits the road, you are going to ignore it and throw the book at two young teens who almost certainly haven't gotten a single break in life and will have any chance at a decent future disappear with a jail sentence that will only harden them further.

Unbelievable. And his family is supposed to just supposed to shrug their shoulders? I'm sick of non-violent law abiding citizens having to pay for someone else's upbringing with their lives. That goes for every race, religion and creed. I'm sick of it!! And to lose your live to a little peer-pressured pishika 13 year old FFS! You know what? Too bad. Her mistake should cost her her life . In jail. Or maybe her mom's life for raising a monster.,

Well, thankfully the DC Youth Act makes sure that bloodthirsty tendencies of people like you will not be enacted and we won't just toss away two young lives for a mistake that went far beyond what they intended.

Wait, so the people who killed an innocent man aren't "bloodthirsty" or didn't have "blood thirsty tendencies" but the people calling for justice have "bloodthirsty tendencies" according to you?

You are effed up. Completely effed up backwards.

Guess what, I had a sh!tty childhood without support. I was alone, with one parent dead and the other parent with mental illness. Guess how many people I killed? Also guess how many times I so much as stole anything from anyone as a teenager?

No, they weren't bloodthirsty. I've seen no evidence that they had any intent to hurt the driver. In contrast, someone saying a 13-year old's "mistake should cost her her life" absolutely is blood thirsty.

where is your concern for the victim's family? Remember them? How about his life and future and plans?

And will throwing the book at these poor girls in any way help the victim or his family?

What is your suggestion? Let them go free?

Not immediately. They should serve some period of time in a confined setting, partly for punishment but more importantly for intensive counseling, education, and other efforts to try to give them a fighting chance to salvage something of their lives.

[Anonymous]

Here is the gofundme for the man that was senselessly murdered by the two awful girls.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-the-anwars-find-peace

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Didn't a girl just stab another girl in the back around L'Enfant Plaza, too? I am increasingly worried about our city's children participating in violence.

Karl Racine and Charles Allen should maybe at some point be asked the tough questions about the rampant juvenile crime in the District.

They should focus on the rampant inequality that exists in the city/country and the rampant lack of opportunities for people in certain communities.

DP. Can't they do both?

These kinds of responses to discussions about increased violent crime are getting really old. Lack of opportunity and inequality are issues that should be addressed, certainly, but they are not excuses for criminal behavior. There are plenty of people who face inequality and lack of opportunity but don't kill people while trying to steal their cars.

So basically you are paying lip service to inequality, but when rubber hits the road, you are going to ignore it and throw the book at two young teens who almost certainly haven't gotten a single break in life and will have any chance at a decent future disappear with a jail sentence that will only harden them further.

Unbelievable. And his family is supposed to just supposed to shrug their shoulders? I'm sick of non-violent law abiding citizens having to pay for someone else's upbringing with their lives. That goes for every race, religion and creed. I'm sick of it!! And to lose your live to a little peer-pressured pishika 13 year old FFS! You know what? Too bad. Her mistake should cost her her life . In jail. Or maybe her mom's life for raising a monster.,

Well, thankfully the DC Youth Act makes sure that bloodthirsty tendencies of people like you will not be enacted and we won't just toss away two young lives for a mistake that went far beyond what they intended.

Wait, so the people who killed an innocent man aren't "bloodthirsty" or didn't have "blood thirsty tendencies" but the people calling for justice have "bloodthirsty tendencies" according to you?

You are effed up. Completely effed up backwards.

Guess what, I had a sh!tty childhood without support. I was alone, with one parent dead and the other parent with mental illness. Guess how many people I killed? Also guess how many times I so much as stole anything from anyone as a teenager?

No, they weren't bloodthirsty. I've seen no evidence that they had any intent to hurt the driver. In contrast, someone saying a 13-year old's "mistake should cost her her life" absolutely is blood thirsty.

where is your concern for the victim's family? Remember them? How about his life and future and plans?

And will throwing the book at these poor girls in any way help the victim or his family?

What is your suggestion? Let them go free?

Not immediately. They should serve some period of time in a confined setting, partly for punishment but more importantly for intensive counseling, education, and other efforts to try to give them a fighting chance to salvage something of their lives.

And you realize that since they are being charged as juveniles you have pretty much described the max they can get?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Didn't a girl just stab another girl in the back around L'Enfant Plaza, too? I am increasingly worried about our city's children participating in violence.

Karl Racine and Charles Allen should maybe at some point be asked the tough questions about the rampant juvenile crime in the District.

They should focus on the rampant inequality that exists in the city/country and the rampant lack of opportunities for people in certain communities.

DP. Can't they do both?

These kinds of responses to discussions about increased violent crime are getting really old. Lack of opportunity and inequality are issues that should be addressed, certainly, but they are not excuses for criminal behavior. There are plenty of people who face inequality and lack of opportunity but don't kill people while trying to steal their cars.

So basically you are paying lip service to inequality, but when rubber hits the road, you are going to ignore it and throw the book at two young teens who almost certainly haven't gotten a single break in life and will have any chance at a decent future disappear with a jail sentence that will only harden them further.

Unbelievable. And his family is supposed to just supposed to shrug their shoulders? I'm sick of non-violent law abiding citizens having to pay for someone else's upbringing with their lives. That goes for every race, religion and creed. I'm sick of it!! And to lose your live to a little peer-pressured pishika 13 year old FFS! You know what? Too bad. Her mistake should cost her her life . In jail. Or maybe her mom's life for raising a monster.,

Well, thankfully the DC Youth Act makes sure that bloodthirsty tendencies of people like you will not be enacted and we won't just toss away two young lives for a mistake that went far beyond what they intended.

Wait, so the people who killed an innocent man aren't "bloodthirsty" or didn't have "blood thirsty tendencies" but the people calling for justice have "bloodthirsty tendencies" according to you?

You are effed up. Completely effed up backwards.

Guess what, I had a sh!tty childhood without support. I was alone, with one parent dead and the other parent with mental illness. Guess how many people I killed? Also guess how many times I so much as stole anything from anyone as a teenager?

No, they weren't bloodthirsty. I've seen no evidence that they had any intent to hurt the driver. In contrast, someone saying a 13-year old's "mistake should cost her her life" absolutely is blood thirsty.

where is your concern for the victim's family? Remember them? How about his life and future and plans?

And will throwing the book at these poor girls in any way help the victim or his family?

Not sure what you mean by throwing the book at them? I'm not advocating that they die. I do think incarceration, counseling, continuation of schooling while incarcerated, and opportunities for required service to people in need.

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How do you know the man didn't try to do this? The two children who murdered him were not old enough to drive and almost certainly did not know how to properly operate a car.

Stop blaming the victim.

You're kind of naive. There are some teens who already know how to operate a car, or will try to operate a car even before they have a license or any driving experience. It happens a lot more than you realize.

Just a sampling from Google:

https://www.newsherald.com/story/news/2021/03/18/two-panama-city-teens-arrested-after-allegedly-stealing-car-panama-city-beach-and-crashing-following/4746813001/

Two kids, 12 and 13, allegedly steal car in Panama City Beach, lead police on chase

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2021/03/05/13-year-old-driver-collides-car-killing-71-year-old-man/4598519001/

13-year-old driver charged, man identified after fatal

https://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/columbus-teen-who-confessed-to-50-car-thefts-truant-at-least-30-days-from-school

Columbus 15-year-old teen who confessed to 50 car thefts truant at least 30 days from school

Your anecdotal attempt at victim-blaming isn't working.

? In no way am I blaming the victim. My point was that there are plenty of 13 and 15 yr olds who do this kind of thing.

Reading comprehension important.

[Anonymous]

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How do you know the man didn't try to do this? The two children who murdered him were not old enough to drive and almost certainly did not know how to properly operate a car.

Stop blaming the victim.

You're kind of naive. There are some teens who already know how to operate a car, or will try to operate a car even before they have a license or any driving experience. It happens a lot more than you realize.

Just a sampling from Google:

https://www.newsherald.com/story/news/2021/03/18/two-panama-city-teens-arrested-after-allegedly-stealing-car-panama-city-beach-and-crashing-following/4746813001/

Two kids, 12 and 13, allegedly steal car in Panama City Beach, lead police on chase

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2021/03/05/13-year-old-driver-collides-car-killing-71-year-old-man/4598519001/

13-year-old driver charged, man identified after fatal

https://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/columbus-teen-who-confessed-to-50-car-thefts-truant-at-least-30-days-from-school

Columbus 15-year-old teen who confessed to 50 car thefts truant at least 30 days from school

Your anecdotal attempt at victim-blaming isn't working.

? In no way am I blaming the victim. My point was that there are plenty of 13 and 15 yr olds who do this kind of thing.

Reading comprehension important.

there are plenty of 13 year olds who use tasers to carjack people in broad daylight??? what???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here is the gofundme for the man that was senselessly murdered by the two awful girls.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-the-anwars-find-peace

just donated. As an immigrant, I really feel for that family. My parents also worked menial jobs, and they barely speak any English.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
How do you know the man didn't try to do this? The two children who murdered him were not old enough to drive and almost certainly did not know how to properly operate a car.

Stop blaming the victim.

You're kind of naive. There are some teens who already know how to operate a car, or will try to operate a car even before they have a license or any driving experience. It happens a lot more than you realize.

Just a sampling from Google:

https://www.newsherald.com/story/news/2021/03/18/two-panama-city-teens-arrested-after-allegedly-stealing-car-panama-city-beach-and-crashing-following/4746813001/

Two kids, 12 and 13, allegedly steal car in Panama City Beach, lead police on chase

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2021/03/05/13-year-old-driver-collides-car-killing-71-year-old-man/4598519001/

13-year-old driver charged, man identified after fatal

https://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/columbus-teen-who-confessed-to-50-car-thefts-truant-at-least-30-days-from-school

Columbus 15-year-old teen who confessed to 50 car thefts truant at least 30 days from school

Your anecdotal attempt at victim-blaming isn't working.

? In no way am I blaming the victim. My point was that there are plenty of 13 and 15 yr olds who do this kind of thing.

Reading comprehension important.

there are plenty of 13 year olds who use tasers to carjack people in broad daylight??? what???

There are plenty of 13 yr olds who carjack in broad daylight, yes. Did you even bother reading the articles I posted. Those were just samplings.

I grew up in a tough area with real gang bangers. They start them young.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here is the gofundme for the man that was senselessly murdered by the two awful girls.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-the-anwars-find-peace

just donated. As an immigrant, I really feel for that family. My parents also worked menial jobs, and they barely speak any English.

Thank you!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't a girl just stab another girl in the back around L'Enfant Plaza, too? I am increasingly worried about our city's children participating in violence.

Karl Racine and Charles Allen should maybe at some point be asked the tough questions about the rampant juvenile crime in the District.

They should focus on the rampant inequality that exists in the city/country and the rampant lack of opportunities for people in certain communities.

DP. Can't they do both?

These kinds of responses to discussions about increased violent crime are getting really old. Lack of opportunity and inequality are issues that should be addressed, certainly, but they are not excuses for criminal behavior. There are plenty of people who face inequality and lack of opportunity but don't kill people while trying to steal their cars.

So basically you are paying lip service to inequality, but when rubber hits the road, you are going to ignore it and throw the book at two young teens who almost certainly haven't gotten a single break in life and will have any chance at a decent future disappear with a jail sentence that will only harden them further.

Unbelievable. And his family is supposed to just supposed to shrug their shoulders? I'm sick of non-violent law abiding citizens having to pay for someone else's upbringing with their lives. That goes for every race, religion and creed. I'm sick of it!! And to lose your live to a little peer-pressured pishika 13 year old FFS! You know what? Too bad. Her mistake should cost her her life . In jail. Or maybe her mom's life for raising a monster.,

Well, thankfully the DC Youth Act makes sure that bloodthirsty tendencies of people like you will not be enacted and we won't just toss away two young lives for a mistake that went far beyond what they intended.

Wait, so the people who killed an innocent man aren't "bloodthirsty" or didn't have "blood thirsty tendencies" but the people calling for justice have "bloodthirsty tendencies" according to you?

You are effed up. Completely effed up backwards.

Guess what, I had a sh!tty childhood without support. I was alone, with one parent dead and the other parent with mental illness. Guess how many people I killed? Also guess how many times I so much as stole anything from anyone as a teenager?

No, they weren't bloodthirsty. I've seen no evidence that they had any intent to hurt the driver. In contrast, someone saying a 13-year old's "mistake should cost her her life" absolutely is blood thirsty.

where is your concern for the victim's family? Remember them? How about his life and future and plans?

And will throwing the book at these poor girls in any way help the victim or his family?

Sadly it is too late for this family. But it is not too late for the next.

It's pretty rare that someone who is so damaged mentally at this point will turn their life around. The reason you read stories about it? Because it's so rare it becomes a story....