How long will the shutdown last?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I did not read this whole thread but I'm a taxpayer. I make in the lower five digits and I am seriously pissed off. If we don't have the money to properly fund veterans health care or feed kids breakfast at school in the morning (I don't care who their parents are) and I can't afford to go to the doctor (please don't insert the illegal immigrants dog whistle here because it has nothing to do with why I can't afford healthcare) I certainly cannot see how we can afford to build a large structure that will be obsolete in five years.

Why are we feeding kids breakfast at school. We had lunch, but now breakfast and lunch is the new standard? Well, who is paying for that?

We have 300,000 illegal aliens jumping the border to the south every year. That's NOT free; there are costs associated with that bad behavior, much more than several billion to build the wall where it's needed.

These are apprehensions:



https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/illegal-immigration-statistics/

[Anonymous]

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My cousin works FT literally to keep this country safe and is unpaid because Trump lied lied LIED about Mexico and the wall. Since 2015, he’s lied remorselessly. He’s led cell and response chants about who’s gonna pay for it? MEXICO! - for literally more than two calendar years. I don’t even know if she voted for HRC. She’s never posted in a political message board in her life.

What the everlovkng f!ck did SHE do to deserve this stress? While you sneer, SHE is working for actual homeland security.

Obamacare told us every family would save $2,500 every year in premiums if we instantiated Obamacare. Did he lie?

[Anonymous]

Mexico gets $26 BILLION per year in remittances (not millions). Tax that at 25%

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Depends on how soon the Dems decide to approve $5 billion for the wall. I don’t see the President backing down. So I guess anywhere from one day to six years, assuming he gets a second term.


He has folded on pretty much everything else. Why not this?


Actually, he won last year’s shutdown crisis over DACA. No reason to believe he won’t win again. I think he realizes that shutdowns are one of his most effective tools.


Huh?

How did he win?

DACA receipients still have protection provided through court ruling and he does not have the $25B Chuck Schumer was willing to offer. That’s in my book is called not winning!


Right. The Dreamers have temporary protection via court order, not a permanent legislative fix. The Senate Democrats insisted on a legislative solution during last year’s shutdown, but then eventually folded. So the President won that round.

How did Trump win? He gave up 25 billion and is now begging for 5 billion or less.


Rome wasn’t built in a day. $5 billion is a great start. Assuming he will be in office six more years (we shall see), it will be fully funded. He will of course campaign on it again next year, which is all the more reason he can’t afford to (and won’t) lose this fight.

Are you obtuse? He gave up 5 times more money than he is scrounging for now. Why?
Is he again going to campaign on Mexico paying for the wall? It takes a special kind of stupid to be a Trump supporter.


Actually you're a little obtuse.

1. The 25B number D's are throwing around was an appropriation, not a penny of it funded. He didn't walk away from anything, it was an empty envelope.

2. DACA was found unconstitutional. It's still in place only under a temporary stay. Keep holding your breath.

3. Mexican's currently remit 50M per year to mexico. DT has the authority to put a tax on that (say 10%) and fully fund the wall.


I think you need to do the math of a 10% tax on 50M per year.

Ha ha. Yes, let's see. That's 5M per year. It will only take a thousand years to get to 5 billion dollars! That doesn't include the wall maintenance.

False. With the GoFundMe money they’re raising, they’ll have it covered in fewer than 700 years.

That’s Trump math for you.

[Anonymous]

This puts an expiration date on the shutdown.

https://www.businessinsider.com/irs-tax-refund-delay-partial-government-shutdown-2019-1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I did not read this whole thread but I'm a taxpayer. I make in the lower five digits and I am seriously pissed off. If we don't have the money to properly fund veterans health care or feed kids breakfast at school in the morning (I don't care who their parents are) and I can't afford to go to the doctor (please don't insert the illegal immigrants dog whistle here because it has nothing to do with why I can't afford healthcare) I certainly cannot see how we can afford to build a large structure that will be obsolete in five years.

Why are we feeding kids breakfast at school. We had lunch, but now breakfast and lunch is the new standard? Well, who is paying for that?

We have 300,000 illegal aliens jumping the border to the south every year. That's NOT free; there are costs associated with that bad behavior, much more than several billion to build the wall where it's needed.

These are apprehensions:



https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/illegal-immigration-statistics/

Wow - pretty amazing how much illegal immigration has slowed down over the last 10-15 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I did not read this whole thread but I'm a taxpayer. I make in the lower five digits and I am seriously pissed off. If we don't have the money to properly fund veterans health care or feed kids breakfast at school in the morning (I don't care who their parents are) and I can't afford to go to the doctor (please don't insert the illegal immigrants dog whistle here because it has nothing to do with why I can't afford healthcare) I certainly cannot see how we can afford to build a large structure that will be obsolete in five years.

Why are we feeding kids breakfast at school. We had lunch, but now breakfast and lunch is the new standard? Well, who is paying for that?

We have 300,000 illegal aliens jumping the border to the south every year. That's NOT free; there are costs associated with that bad behavior, much more than several billion to build the wall where it's needed.

These are apprehensions:



https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/illegal-immigration-statistics/

Wow - pretty amazing how much illegal immigration has slowed down over the last 10-15 years.

Whatever they did in 2006-2011, they should do more of that. I guess during W's second term and Obama's first.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I did not read this whole thread but I'm a taxpayer. I make in the lower five digits and I am seriously pissed off. If we don't have the money to properly fund veterans health care or feed kids breakfast at school in the morning (I don't care who their parents are) and I can't afford to go to the doctor (please don't insert the illegal immigrants dog whistle here because it has nothing to do with why I can't afford healthcare) I certainly cannot see how we can afford to build a large structure that will be obsolete in five years.

Why are we feeding kids breakfast at school. We had lunch, but now breakfast and lunch is the new standard? Well, who is paying for that?

We have 300,000 illegal aliens jumping the border to the south every year. That's NOT free; there are costs associated with that bad behavior, much more than several billion to build the wall where it's needed.

These are apprehensions:



https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/illegal-immigration-statistics/

We feed kids breakfast at school because they are hungry you nitwit. And hungry kids don’t learn as well as they should.

Would you like to read some resources about hunger in America and what can be done about it?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I did not read this whole thread but I'm a taxpayer. I make in the lower five digits and I am seriously pissed off. If we don't have the money to properly fund veterans health care or feed kids breakfast at school in the morning (I don't care who their parents are) and I can't afford to go to the doctor (please don't insert the illegal immigrants dog whistle here because it has nothing to do with why I can't afford healthcare) I certainly cannot see how we can afford to build a large structure that will be obsolete in five years.

Why are we feeding kids breakfast at school. We had lunch, but now breakfast and lunch is the new standard? Well, who is paying for that?

We have 300,000 illegal aliens jumping the border to the south every year. That's NOT free; there are costs associated with that bad behavior, much more than several billion to build the wall where it's needed.

These are apprehensions:



https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/illegal-immigration-statistics/

We feed kids breakfast at school because they are hungry you nitwit. And hungry kids don’t learn as well as they should.

Would you like to read some resources about hunger in America and what can be done about it?

Let Mexico feed their own

[Anonymous]

But Trump said Mexico was going to pay for the wall. Why are nearly 1 million Americans getting stiffed on their paychecks because Trump can’t close the deal with Mexico?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I did not read this whole thread but I'm a taxpayer. I make in the lower five digits and I am seriously pissed off. If we don't have the money to properly fund veterans health care or feed kids breakfast at school in the morning (I don't care who their parents are) and I can't afford to go to the doctor (please don't insert the illegal immigrants dog whistle here because it has nothing to do with why I can't afford healthcare) I certainly cannot see how we can afford to build a large structure that will be obsolete in five years.

Why are we feeding kids breakfast at school. We had lunch, but now breakfast and lunch is the new standard? Well, who is paying for that?

We have 300,000 illegal aliens jumping the border to the south every year. That's NOT free; there are costs associated with that bad behavior, much more than several billion to build the wall where it's needed.

These are apprehensions:



https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/illegal-immigration-statistics/

We feed kids breakfast at school because they are hungry you nitwit. And hungry kids don’t learn as well as they should.

Would you like to read some resources about hunger in America and what can be done about it?

Let Mexico feed their own

Are Americans serving meals in Mexico? You seem confused.

[Anonymous]

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I did not read this whole thread but I'm a taxpayer. I make in the lower five digits and I am seriously pissed off. If we don't have the money to properly fund veterans health care or feed kids breakfast at school in the morning (I don't care who their parents are) and I can't afford to go to the doctor (please don't insert the illegal immigrants dog whistle here because it has nothing to do with why I can't afford healthcare) I certainly cannot see how we can afford to build a large structure that will be obsolete in five years.


Why are we feeding kids breakfast at school. We had lunch, but now breakfast and lunch is the new standard? Well, who is paying for that?

We have 300,000 illegal aliens jumping the border to the south every year. That's NOT free; there are costs associated with that bad behavior, much more than several billion to build the wall where it's needed.

These are apprehensions:



https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/illegal-immigration-statistics/



Wow - pretty amazing how much illegal immigration has slowed down over the last 10-15 years.

It's called a recession. If you look at the historical immigration records, immigration goes down every time we have a recession. The 20's were boom for immigration. The 30's were bust. The 80's were boom and then later 90's were boom. It has everything to do with employment here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I did not read this whole thread but I'm a taxpayer. I make in the lower five digits and I am seriously pissed off. If we don't have the money to properly fund veterans health care or feed kids breakfast at school in the morning (I don't care who their parents are) and I can't afford to go to the doctor (please don't insert the illegal immigrants dog whistle here because it has nothing to do with why I can't afford healthcare) I certainly cannot see how we can afford to build a large structure that will be obsolete in five years.

Why are we feeding kids breakfast at school. We had lunch, but now breakfast and lunch is the new standard? Well, who is paying for that?

We have 300,000 illegal aliens jumping the border to the south every year. That's NOT free; there are costs associated with that bad behavior, much more than several billion to build the wall where it's needed.

These are apprehensions:



https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/illegal-immigration-statistics/

We feed kids breakfast at school because they are hungry you nitwit. And hungry kids don’t learn as well as they should.

Would you like to read some resources about hunger in America and what can be done about it?

HUH

Let's see. a sticky bun and chocolate milk X 5 and a pizza M-F . . . one step closer to diabetes
Let's not forget the cup o' fruit in the syrup.

I love how people who don't know s**t are the first to respond.

[Anonymous]

Democrats are making proposals and the Republicans are starting to feel the heat for being obstructionist.

The House, with its new Democratic majority, passed two bills on Thursday night to reopen the government — one major spending bill to fund most shuttered departments and agencies through Sept. 30 and a stop-gap measure to restart the Department of Homeland Security for a few weeks — without funding for a border wall.

The measures are likely to go nowhere for now, but they will raise pressure on Republicans to come to the negotiating table. Senators Cory Gardner of Colorado and Susan Collins of Maine, two of the most endangered Republicans up for re-election in 2020, said they want a vote.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mexico gets $26 BILLION per year in remittances (not millions). Tax that at 25%

To paraphrase Obama, you want the government to police every Western Union and Paypal deposit?