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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I am really tired of all this crap becoming so focused on race. 
The reality is that police shootings are usually justified. 
When they aren’t, it isn’t always a person of color shot by the police officer.
And, it isn’t always a white police officer doing the shooting.

From the WaPo today:

"Scott is one of at least 702 people who have been fatally shot by police so far this year, 163 of them black men, according to a Washington Post database tracking fatal officer-involved shootings.”

That means that 23% of those shot have been black men.
What the stat does not include is how many of these shootings have been justified.... how many of these people shot first at police or brandished a weapon or attacked police first?[/quote]

[b]It is not about the race of the cops[/b]. It's the race of the victims. How many innocent white men were killed by the cops every year? Show some stats for any given year?[/quote]

Tell that to Hillary.  She thinks white people need a slap-down.  [/quote]

White people like you and me need to be sensitive about what black population suffers through. We can't paint them with one broad brush. [b]Will you be talking like this if this happens daily to white men?[/b] That is the insensitivity ? Show the same understanding to every human regardless of race. [/quote]
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You don't think it happens to white men and women? And DAILY? You believe there are 365 killings of unarmed black men a year by police? Show some understanding of the facts.[/quote]

it is simple. Tell me how many innocent white people are killed by cops unjustly? I didn't say every day a black man is killed by cops unjustly. But even one innocent black person killed by cops unjustly is one too many. ANY INNOCENT people killed by cops is one too many. So your turn without any more diversion and denials.[/quote]
I agree that any innocent life taken is one too many and race isn't an issue unless it can be shown race was a reason. And you said ''happens daily to white men'', so what does that mean if not daily to black men. So, tell me how many innocent black people are killed by cops unjustly. After all, it is YOUR contention, not mine.[/quote]

Thats 15 blacks in one year(April 2014 to April 2015). I couldn;t find any data for whites in the same category. [b]Your turn.[/b] Ofcourse many whites and blacks are killed in gun fights or when resisting police orders. But thats not our discussion. I just want to make that clear because everyone immediately jump to a different number. 
https://www.buzzfeed.com/nicholasquah/heres-a-timeline-of-unarmed-black-men-killed-by-police-over?utm_term=.jbPJNwqKr#.aweRMxkBA[/quote]
I would have no problem accepting the number you presented. But how many were unarmed but threatening. It has been forensically proven that he did in fact come in contact with the officer before being shot. But he was in fact, unarmed. Did the DOJ take up the case and pursue it?

If we are reasonable we must examine the fact that given the total numbers this isn't endemic but in fact a very small percentage. We could discuss the percentage of crime committed by race but again we won't be able to truly come to a conclusion because we would have to get a handle on how much of that is because blacks are treated differently in the area of crime and punishment. Do I believe they are? Yes, I do. Have I ever found a 'righteous' number that I can believe in as to how much is racial and how much isn't? No.

Unfortunately we will never know completely nor will we ever eradicate inequality or racism. And it isn't getting better, the racial divide is growing.[/quote]

This is not a small number, one is one too many. By your logic terrorists killing Americans is much smaller number than a white man with a gun involved in mass murders, terrorism and hate crimes. Why is terrorism by muslim americans given such a big focus while terrorism by white man is buried under the rug? Same way you are burying the cop killings and reasoning away. That is the insensitivity. Why couldn't you say, yes, this is wrong, this has to stop. NO MORE BUTS. PERIOD. I am white and I am able to say that because I am sensitive and I am objective and I have relatives in all races. That gives a different perspective about live and humanity. [/quote]

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