Public School Teacher's Resentment Toward DS for Going to Private High School?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:New poster here. I don't think OP seems entitled at all. She was advocating for her son who appears to have done the right things yet was not getting the help he seeked. I don't understand why anyone would think going on a shadow visit makes him less entitled to help. All students are entitled to help when they need it. Many of you seem to think that a sense of entitlement is wrong? I actually think as tax payers who pay these teachers' salaries, we are entitled. AND what about the teacher who feels she is entitled to personal time when other teachers are staying after school and find ways to help. This teacher sounds to me to be selfish and perhaps even vindictive.

OP despite the fact you are probably right, but we don't know for sure, you should reach out to the teacher next week. I know it will be hard,but there's only a few months left.

PP, I think you are OP in disguise. Or, you have difficulty reading and comprehending tone. With each post, OP became more belie den,mentioned,mand generally obnoxious.

Internet connection briefly interrupted before I could Cosco typos -- the end was supposed to read, "W each post, OP became more belligerent, entitled, and generally obnoxious.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP it is very common for middle school teachers to start transferring responsibility to students in the second half of 8th grade so that they are ready. Your kid is clearly struggling with these new responsibilities and instead of being grateful to them for challenging him you've gone over the teacher's head twice to complain.

1) Student turns in incomplete assignment, with a critical part missing. In high school, a teacher would accept the assignment and grade it down for the missing rubric. In sixth or seventh, the kid would get immediate feedback to go and get the missing part, so your kid's teacher split the difference. Your kid still failed to meet the expectation. A late penalty was appropriate at that point, by rescuing your kid you prevented him from learning an important lesson. Next time he messes up an assignment he'll be in high school where grades count and teachers are less forgiving. Bad decision mom.

2) Student chooses to take a day off school for an optional event (shadow visits after admissions are. Ot required). He knew about his absence in advance. What did he do to prepare? Did he go to Khan academy to review the materials there? Get a friend's notes? Did he do these things before the absences or only when the test was looming? Again, it seems like he didn't step up, and the school offered him a low risk way to learn a lesson. If you don't prepare for known absences you can fall behind. Now he'll go off to high school without that lesson. Next time he's out for something planes, he won't think to plan for his absence, and if his grade falls as a result his transcripts for college will be impacted, all because of his helicopter mom.

1. He would still have gotten am A with the missing rubric...would have rather had that than entire letter grade.

2. He did everything possible to keep up. The shadow visit was not planned that far in advance. He kept up with all other classes, including this one. Only issue was he had question on a problem that the teacher refused to help him with. That is cruel and bordering on bullying. Each time he approached her for help, he was sent away because she was too busy.

Like I said perhaps she couldn't care less about the private school. She is just a teacher with no heart. All the more reason to go private.

How is her behavior anything close to bullying? You can't just apply the latest buzz-word to create your own victim drama.

Another PS teacher defending a fellow teacher. Go correct some papers. There is no snow day tomorrow.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP it is very common for middle school teachers to start transferring responsibility to students in the second half of 8th grade so that they are ready. Your kid is clearly struggling with these new responsibilities and instead of being grateful to them for challenging him you've gone over the teacher's head twice to complain.

1) Student turns in incomplete assignment, with a critical part missing. In high school, a teacher would accept the assignment and grade it down for the missing rubric. In sixth or seventh, the kid would get immediate feedback to go and get the missing part, so your kid's teacher split the difference. Your kid still failed to meet the expectation. A late penalty was appropriate at that point, by rescuing your kid you prevented him from learning an important lesson. Next time he messes up an assignment he'll be in high school where grades count and teachers are less forgiving. Bad decision mom.

2) Student chooses to take a day off school for an optional event (shadow visits after admissions are. Ot required). He knew about his absence in advance. What did he do to prepare? Did he go to Khan academy to review the materials there? Get a friend's notes? Did he do these things before the absences or only when the test was looming? Again, it seems like he didn't step up, and the school offered him a low risk way to learn a lesson. If you don't prepare for known absences you can fall behind. Now he'll go off to high school without that lesson. Next time he's out for something planes, he won't think to plan for his absence, and if his grade falls as a result his transcripts for college will be impacted, all because of his helicopter mom.

1. He would still have gotten am A with the missing rubric...would have rather had that than entire letter grade.

2. He did everything possible to keep up. The shadow visit was not planned that far in advance. He kept up with all other classes, including this one. Only issue was he had question on a problem that the teacher refused to help him with. That is cruel and bordering on bullying. Each time he approached her for help, he was sent away because she was too busy.

Like I said perhaps she couldn't care less about the private school. She is just a teacher with no heart. All the more reason to go private.

How is her behavior anything close to bullying? You can't just apply the latest buzz-word to create your own victim drama.

Another PS teacher defending a fellow teacher. Go correct some papers. There is no snow day tomorrow.

Actually, I'm a private school teacher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP it is very common for middle school teachers to start transferring responsibility to students in the second half of 8th grade so that they are ready. Your kid is clearly struggling with these new responsibilities and instead of being grateful to them for challenging him you've gone over the teacher's head twice to complain.

1) Student turns in incomplete assignment, with a critical part missing. In high school, a teacher would accept the assignment and grade it down for the missing rubric. In sixth or seventh, the kid would get immediate feedback to go and get the missing part, so your kid's teacher split the difference. Your kid still failed to meet the expectation. A late penalty was appropriate at that point, by rescuing your kid you prevented him from learning an important lesson. Next time he messes up an assignment he'll be in high school where grades count and teachers are less forgiving. Bad decision mom.

2) Student chooses to take a day off school for an optional event (shadow visits after admissions are. Ot required). He knew about his absence in advance. What did he do to prepare? Did he go to Khan academy to review the materials there? Get a friend's notes? Did he do these things before the absences or only when the test was looming? Again, it seems like he didn't step up, and the school offered him a low risk way to learn a lesson. If you don't prepare for known absences you can fall behind. Now he'll go off to high school without that lesson. Next time he's out for something planes, he won't think to plan for his absence, and if his grade falls as a result his transcripts for college will be impacted, all because of his helicopter mom.

1. He would still have gotten am A with the missing rubric...would have rather had that than entire letter grade.

2. He did everything possible to keep up. The shadow visit was not planned that far in advance. He kept up with all other classes, including this one. Only issue was he had question on a problem that the teacher refused to help him with. That is cruel and bordering on bullying. Each time he approached her for help, he was sent away because she was too busy.

Like I said perhaps she couldn't care less about the private school. She is just a teacher with no heart. All the more reason to go private.

How is her behavior anything close to bullying? You can't just apply the latest buzz-word to create your own victim drama.

Another PS teacher defending a fellow teacher. Go correct some papers. There is no snow day tomorrow.

Actually, I'm a private school teacher.

Whatever. Bye bye.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP it is very common for middle school teachers to start transferring responsibility to students in the second half of 8th grade so that they are ready. Your kid is clearly struggling with these new responsibilities and instead of being grateful to them for challenging him you've gone over the teacher's head twice to complain.

1) Student turns in incomplete assignment, with a critical part missing. In high school, a teacher would accept the assignment and grade it down for the missing rubric. In sixth or seventh, the kid would get immediate feedback to go and get the missing part, so your kid's teacher split the difference. Your kid still failed to meet the expectation. A late penalty was appropriate at that point, by rescuing your kid you prevented him from learning an important lesson. Next time he messes up an assignment he'll be in high school where grades count and teachers are less forgiving. Bad decision mom.

2) Student chooses to take a day off school for an optional event (shadow visits after admissions are. Ot required). He knew about his absence in advance. What did he do to prepare? Did he go to Khan academy to review the materials there? Get a friend's notes? Did he do these things before the absences or only when the test was looming? Again, it seems like he didn't step up, and the school offered him a low risk way to learn a lesson. If you don't prepare for known absences you can fall behind. Now he'll go off to high school without that lesson. Next time he's out for something planes, he won't think to plan for his absence, and if his grade falls as a result his transcripts for college will be impacted, all because of his helicopter mom.

1. He would still have gotten am A with the missing rubric...would have rather had that than entire letter grade.

2. He did everything possible to keep up. The shadow visit was not planned that far in advance. He kept up with all other classes, including this one. Only issue was he had question on a problem that the teacher refused to help him with. That is cruel and bordering on bullying. Each time he approached her for help, he was sent away because she was too busy.

Like I said perhaps she couldn't care less about the private school. She is just a teacher with no heart. All the more reason to go private.

How is her behavior anything close to bullying? You can't just apply the latest buzz-word to create your own victim drama.

Another PS teacher defending a fellow teacher. Go correct some papers. There is no snow day tomorrow.

Actually, I'm a private school teacher.

Whatever. Bye bye.

I look forward to meeting you and your son next year. I won't hold you against him, don't worry.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP it is very common for middle school teachers to start transferring responsibility to students in the second half of 8th grade so that they are ready. Your kid is clearly struggling with these new responsibilities and instead of being grateful to them for challenging him you've gone over the teacher's head twice to complain.

1) Student turns in incomplete assignment, with a critical part missing. In high school, a teacher would accept the assignment and grade it down for the missing rubric. In sixth or seventh, the kid would get immediate feedback to go and get the missing part, so your kid's teacher split the difference. Your kid still failed to meet the expectation. A late penalty was appropriate at that point, by rescuing your kid you prevented him from learning an important lesson. Next time he messes up an assignment he'll be in high school where grades count and teachers are less forgiving. Bad decision mom.

2) Student chooses to take a day off school for an optional event (shadow visits after admissions are. Ot required). He knew about his absence in advance. What did he do to prepare? Did he go to Khan academy to review the materials there? Get a friend's notes? Did he do these things before the absences or only when the test was looming? Again, it seems like he didn't step up, and the school offered him a low risk way to learn a lesson. If you don't prepare for known absences you can fall behind. Now he'll go off to high school without that lesson. Next time he's out for something planes, he won't think to plan for his absence, and if his grade falls as a result his transcripts for college will be impacted, all because of his helicopter mom.

1. He would still have gotten am A with the missing rubric...would have rather had that than entire letter grade.

2. He did everything possible to keep up. The shadow visit was not planned that far in advance. He kept up with all other classes, including this one. Only issue was he had question on a problem that the teacher refused to help him with. That is cruel and bordering on bullying. Each time he approached her for help, he was sent away because she was too busy.

Like I said perhaps she couldn't care less about the private school. She is just a teacher with no heart. All the more reason to go private.

How is her behavior anything close to bullying? You can't just apply the latest buzz-word to create your own victim drama.

Another PS teacher defending a fellow teacher. Go correct some papers. There is no snow day tomorrow.

Actually, I'm a private school teacher.

Whatever. Bye bye.

I look forward to meeting you and your son next year. I won't hold you against him, don't worry.

Another teacher in a power trip. Why aren't you reading or something. I have no respect for any teacher that trolls. Unlikely you are at our new school, which only employs intellectuals who don't have time for this.

[Anonymous]

I really don't think the teacher gives two shits that you son is going to a private school. Lots of kids leave public schools to go to private schools, there is nothing unusual about this. Maybe she is being a little tough on him, and not super accommodating,but s is nowhere near the level of bullying him. Public schools don't coddle the students like private schools do. If you and your kid can't handle this, it's a good thing you are putting him in a private school! Try and keep in mind though that there is value in learning things the hard way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: I really don't think the teacher gives two shits that you son is going to a private school. Lots of kids leave public schools to go to private schools, there is nothing unusual about this. Maybe she is being a little tough on him, and not super accommodating,but s is nowhere near the level of bullying him. Public schools don't coddle the students like private schools do. If you and your kid can't handle this, it's a good thing you are putting him in a private school! Try and keep in mind though that there is value in learning things the hard way.

She is more like a robot than a teacher.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP it is very common for middle school teachers to start transferring responsibility to students in the second half of 8th grade so that they are ready. Your kid is clearly struggling with these new responsibilities and instead of being grateful to them for challenging him you've gone over the teacher's head twice to complain.

1) Student turns in incomplete assignment, with a critical part missing. In high school, a teacher would accept the assignment and grade it down for the missing rubric. In sixth or seventh, the kid would get immediate feedback to go and get the missing part, so your kid's teacher split the difference. Your kid still failed to meet the expectation. A late penalty was appropriate at that point, by rescuing your kid you prevented him from learning an important lesson. Next time he messes up an assignment he'll be in high school where grades count and teachers are less forgiving. Bad decision mom.

2) Student chooses to take a day off school for an optional event (shadow visits after admissions are. Ot required). He knew about his absence in advance. What did he do to prepare? Did he go to Khan academy to review the materials there? Get a friend's notes? Did he do these things before the absences or only when the test was looming? Again, it seems like he didn't step up, and the school offered him a low risk way to learn a lesson. If you don't prepare for known absences you can fall behind. Now he'll go off to high school without that lesson. Next time he's out for something planes, he won't think to plan for his absence, and if his grade falls as a result his transcripts for college will be impacted, all because of his helicopter mom.

1. He would still have gotten am A with the missing rubric...would have rather had that than entire letter grade.

2. He did everything possible to keep up. The shadow visit was not planned that far in advance. He kept up with all other classes, including this one. Only issue was he had question on a problem that the teacher refused to help him with. That is cruel and bordering on bullying. Each time he approached her for help, he was sent away because she was too busy.

Like I said perhaps she couldn't care less about the private school. She is just a teacher with no heart. All the more reason to go private.

How is her behavior anything close to bullying? You can't just apply the latest buzz-word to create your own victim drama.

Another PS teacher defending a fellow teacher. Go correct some papers. There is no snow day tomorrow.

Actually, I'm a private school teacher.

Whatever. Bye bye.

I look forward to meeting you and your son next year. I won't hold you against him, don't worry.

Another teacher in a power trip. Why aren't you reading or something. I have no respect for any teacher that trolls. Unlikely you are at our new school, which only employs intellectuals who don't have time for this.

I'm not on a power trip. I'm not the one using the fact that I can and will send my child to private school to pick on and vilify his current teacher. Believe me, I've dealt with enough parents who have tortured their children and raged at teachers over A-minuses to recognize your tone and approach to life. You are hurting no one more than your son with your petty and materialistic attitude. Thankfully, the professionals and intellectuals who teach him know better than to let your ranting hurt him in the classroom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: I really don't think the teacher gives two shits that you son is going to a private school. Lots of kids leave public schools to go to private schools, there is nothing unusual about this. Maybe she is being a little tough on him, and not super accommodating,but s is nowhere near the level of bullying him. Public schools don't coddle the students like private schools do. If you and your kid can't handle this, it's a good thing you are putting him in a private school! Try and keep in mind though that there is value in learning things the hard way.

She is more like a robot than a teacher.

Let it go, OP. You sound like a lunatic. Your poor son.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP it is very common for middle school teachers to start transferring responsibility to students in the second half of 8th grade so that they are ready. Your kid is clearly struggling with these new responsibilities and instead of being grateful to them for challenging him you've gone over the teacher's head twice to complain.

1) Student turns in incomplete assignment, with a critical part missing. In high school, a teacher would accept the assignment and grade it down for the missing rubric. In sixth or seventh, the kid would get immediate feedback to go and get the missing part, so your kid's teacher split the difference. Your kid still failed to meet the expectation. A late penalty was appropriate at that point, by rescuing your kid you prevented him from learning an important lesson. Next time he messes up an assignment he'll be in high school where grades count and teachers are less forgiving. Bad decision mom.

2) Student chooses to take a day off school for an optional event (shadow visits after admissions are. Ot required). He knew about his absence in advance. What did he do to prepare? Did he go to Khan academy to review the materials there? Get a friend's notes? Did he do these things before the absences or only when the test was looming? Again, it seems like he didn't step up, and the school offered him a low risk way to learn a lesson. If you don't prepare for known absences you can fall behind. Now he'll go off to high school without that lesson. Next time he's out for something planes, he won't think to plan for his absence, and if his grade falls as a result his transcripts for college will be impacted, all because of his helicopter mom.

1. He would still have gotten am A with the missing rubric...would have rather had that than entire letter grade.

2. He did everything possible to keep up. The shadow visit was not planned that far in advance. He kept up with all other classes, including this one. Only issue was he had question on a problem that the teacher refused to help him with. That is cruel and bordering on bullying. Each time he approached her for help, he was sent away because she was too busy.

Like I said perhaps she couldn't care less about the private school. She is just a teacher with no heart. All the more reason to go private.

How is her behavior anything close to bullying? You can't just apply the latest buzz-word to create your own victim drama.

Another PS teacher defending a fellow teacher. Go correct some papers. There is no snow day tomorrow.

Actually, I'm a private school teacher.

Whatever. Bye bye.

I look forward to meeting you and your son next year. I won't hold you against him, don't worry.

Another teacher in a power trip. Why aren't you reading or something. I have no respect for any teacher that trolls. Unlikely you are at our new school, which only employs intellectuals who don't have time for this.

I'm not on a power trip. I'm not the one using the fact that I can and will send my child to private school to pick on and vilify his current teacher. Believe me, I've dealt with enough parents who have tortured their children and raged at teachers over A-minuses to recognize your tone and approach to life. You are hurting no one more than your son with your petty and materialistic attitude. Thankfully, the professionals and intellectuals who teach him know better than to let your ranting hurt him in the classroom.

I know your type. Poor kids.

[Anonymous]

This poor OP parent .... she has gone off the deep end

Let's hope she is not dragging her DC down with her; although might all be too late.

It's the new school her DC and HER will be joining that needs our sympathy....but then again, the school accepted them so may be they deserve each other.

I'd REALLY like to know where her DC is going.....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is OP. DS tried to hand something in a day early (which is allowed and encouraged). She said he needed the rubric. He went to get it from his desk and she said no, hand it in tomorrow. The next day he mistakenly left it home (he was showing his dad the work) and she took a grade off his project for being late to hand it in, even though she knew he had done it and we brought it to the school right after school. The guidance counselor fixed things. Next he had a test right after missing some days due to shadowing. He missed some of the material and tried to see her to get help. She was always busy giving kids tests before school and during lunch, and never available after school to help him with the material. Then she went out of her way to send me emails about the days he was out and how he did not miss the material...she spent a lot of time with the emails...why can't she help my kid? My son is a straight A student...forgetful sometimes, but sweet and well liked by all the other teachers and administrators.

I think if he was going to be pulled out of school for shadowing, he should've done his work in advance or talked to her about whether or not there would be late penalties.

The late penalties seem reasonable.

I think either your or your kid or both of you are expecting everyone to accommodate his move to a new school and maybe it's getting annoying?

Shadow visits to other schools are excused absences. The school is obligated to accommodate the student for missed work during school visits. Yes obligated. That is why guidance counselor overruled the teachers unwillingness to accommodate. It is the law and she tried to break it.

What on earth are you talking about? Personal, voluntary excursions are not excused absences. Teachers are not required to private tutor children who voluntarily choose to miss instruction for reasons other than illness, death in the family, or court. Does your school have a policy that says otherwise?

I can't imagine a public school teacher caring one whit that a family is choosing a different school. (and for a family this annoying and demanding of special consideration for a student who is already an A student, good riddance. She's got kids who really need her extra time in order to be on grade level.) But I can certainly see a teacher being annoyed about a family who is so pushy and demanding about feeling like a child deserves to have special instruction after choosing to miss class. Sorry, if you choose too as the instruction, the teacher does not have to take time out of her own time to repeat it. That's on you and your child. Hiring a private tutor would be a more appropriate choice.

[Anonymous]

NP. Sympathies are wasted in the OP. I don't think she's gone off the deep end, she was just always there. She sounds like a classic narcissist with paranoid tendencies. I wonder how long it's going to be before her son's new school counsels them out for being PITAs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is OP. DS tried to hand something in a day early (which is allowed and encouraged). She said he needed the rubric. He went to get it from his desk and she said no, hand it in tomorrow. The next day he mistakenly left it home (he was showing his dad the work) and she took a grade off his project for being late to hand it in, even though she knew he had done it and we brought it to the school right after school. The guidance counselor fixed things. Next he had a test right after missing some days due to shadowing. He missed some of the material and tried to see her to get help. She was always busy giving kids tests before school and during lunch, and never available after school to help him with the material. Then she went out of her way to send me emails about the days he was out and how he did not miss the material...she spent a lot of time with the emails...why can't she help my kid? My son is a straight A student...forgetful sometimes, but sweet and well liked by all the other teachers and administrators.

I think if he was going to be pulled out of school for shadowing, he should've done his work in advance or talked to her about whether or not there would be late penalties.

The late penalties seem reasonable.

I think either your or your kid or both of you are expecting everyone to accommodate his move to a new school and maybe it's getting annoying?

Shadow visits to other schools are excused absences. The school is obligated to accommodate the student for missed work during school visits. Yes obligated. That is why guidance counselor overruled the teachers unwillingness to accommodate. It is the law and she tried to break it.

It doesn't matter if the absence is excused. There still needs to be a plan for making up the work, or not. And teachers should be informed, especially if they're writing recommendations. Decent parents would be cooperating with teachers who have helped their kids out.