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| NP here and this article has to been one of the saddest I have ever read in terms of parenting. The mother sounds borderline sadistic. Just awful. Money and success are wonderful things but what about happiness? |
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you are completely wrong and you have obviously completely fallen for the line your parents/culture has fed you. Unless you're talking a really low IQ you can absolutely succeed with a high EG and a low(er) IQ. Some of the most successful, best liked, and even wealthiest people I know have EQs off the chart but have completely average IQs. I'd wager much of Hollywood/professional sports players have lower than average IQs as well. You missed my point. If you have a LOW IQ and have a high EQ you are less likely to be successful in the professional world. If you have a HIGH IQ and a lower EQ you are more likely to be successful. I am not talking about Hollywood and professional sports. They are successful because of completely different talents. You could be emotionally stunted, have a low IQ and and be an ace pitcher making millions if you are left handed and can throw a 99 mile per hour fast ball. Furthermore, I resent that you say I have fallen for the line my parents and culture have fed me as I am COMPLETELY capapble of thinking for myself. I base my opinion on my observations and my personal experiences. I stopped believing everything my parents said when I was 5. Irespect the, I admire them and I am forever grateful to them. Finally, rationalize all you want. The numbers speak for themselves. America is falling behind the rest of the world not only because the public school system is failing in many parts of the country, but because parenst refuse to take responsibility for their children's education. They refuse to put extra work in and blame their children's failures on the school, the teacher and everything else they can think of but their own willingness to commit to their children. They only want their children to be "happy" and not put any expectations on them. Obviously these are generalizations and not everyone thinks like this. But, I beleive that many do and that is the crux of our problem - not just for vhildren, but for post graduate education and college education. |
| If America is falling behind why does everyone still want to emigrate to our slowly failing nation? They could just stay put in their academically superior nations. |
| 13:11, in direct relation to the article in question, don't you think there might be a happy medium somewhere? The mother in this article (who for some reason feels the need to write a self-congralutory essay on what she considers her own great parenting) is almost as abusive as a crack addicted mom who leaves their child alone in a filthy apartment all day. One extreme does not disprove the other. And you are a little off base about EQ. How many people do you know who can't get along with others and are truly happy? Happiness and accomplishment do not have to be mutually exclusive and childhood is an all too fleeting period of time when children should have sleepovers, playdates, and not be told they are garbage as well as being pushed reasonably to achieve success. |
PS- I know I mispelled some words. Maybe my parents were too easy on me. What's your excuse? |
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what does "falling behind" mean? what is it that we're all racing towards?
rather than be trained how to be good information-economy-worker-bees, I'd rather that my children were taught to appreciate themselves and develop what talents they have, each other, their community, the world. maybe I should be thinking about religious schools? |
| You better be pushing academics to some degree. The American middle class may be a thing of the past by the time our kids are 40 or 50. Education is the best predictor of whether your child will be a "have" or a "have not." |
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of course academics are important! that's the whole point of school. but necessarily for the purpose of keeping up with the other "havers."
education is a treasure in itself that no one can take away-- whatever the stock market does. |
what the f*ck are you taking about? the mom is American, the dad is American, the daughters are Americans, and America is their country no lesser than it is yours. just because she's not white doesn't mean she's not American. you're no better than those punks who yelled at my native-born kids to go back to China just because they're Asian. |
| She wasn't talking about the person who wrote the article, just immigrants in general |
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Back on track ....
this is a sincere question. What are the reasons that this parenting approach is so much more common among ASIANS, not just the Chinese? We have heard in this thread alone from people of Chinese, Indian and (I think) Japanese descent. As I was reading Ms. Chua's essay the family that jumped to mind is my Korean friend, who went to extra "school" for 18 hours every Sat/Sun. What is common among Singaporeans, Koreans, Japanese, Chinese, Indians, Thais (?) THey have vastly different countries, religions (or not), economies ... what? |
That's nice. And in the real world - what does that translate too? Bragging rights? |
| Isn't there a saying that goes something like the first generation earns it, the second generation maintains it and the third and subsequent generations waste it? |
This really scares me. We're first generation immigrants and we're so afraid of our children not treasuring what we fought so hard for. |
Them drum it into their heads (with a drum, literally) that they owe you big time. You'll all have a great Thanksgiving twenty years from now. |