Being honest with ourselves about injectables

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP is a troll. How can she not know how to spell the name of her own career??

I guarantee that OP is a nutritionist and not a registered dietitian. She doesn't have a degree, she just thinks she knows better than people because she works in a gym or maybe a "wellness center".

If they were trolling, it definitely worked. People are going off the rails defending their GLP-1s. OP specifically talked about people who DON’T workout, yet there are countless replies on here of people going at the OP by saying they’re healthier now bc of their GLP-1 and exercising lol. Isn’t that basically what the post was saying to begin with? The amount of responses of people defending GLP-1s based on points/claims OP didn’t even make is astonishing.

The post was about people who don’t exercise or eat healthier (but lose weight while denying/hiding that it was bc of GLP-1) and act like they’re now suddenly healthy. All of a sudden it’s about anti anxiety meds, insulin, and them not having a job anymore?

Gotta commend a solid troll job when I see it. You’ve really stirred the pot this evening.

Why didn’t she say… hey if you’re skinny and don’t eat well or work out you are not healthy? Why target GLP-1 people only?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There has been some discussion on here recently of people being offended when being asked how they lost weight. And I have noticed through personal experience that a lot of people who are on injectables either don't want people to know they are or get offended when they're asked if they are. For whatever personal reason they have, I think we can all agree we are seeing more and more of it. Whether they just don't want people to know, are ashamed, or want people to think they dieted and exercised it off. Doesn't matter. What does matter is the following:

As a registered dietician and personal trainer, I think it's very important for injectable users to be honest with themselves in regards to this statement:

Weight loss does not automatically equal increased health.

The shot does not give you a better cardio. The shot does not increase oxygen levels in the blood. The shot does not stop further buildup of plaque in your arteries. The shot does not make your heart stronger. The shot does not increase bone density. The shot does not increase lean muscle mass. The shot does not enhance your immune system.

I could go on and on. The moral of the story is, just because you have lost weight from the shot, does not automatically mean you are now healthier. Do you weigh less, yes. Are you eating less and has the food noise stopped, sure. But without exercise and a proper diet (the old fashioned way), you are still just as out of shape as you always were.

Shut up. Lower A1C and cholesterol is healthy. Being able to walk and move with less joint pain is healthy. Being energetic and less depressed is healthy. Stop the fatty abuse OP!

[Anonymous]

Skinny people aren't automatically healthy either. I know a couple of skinny people with terrible blood sugar and health issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You know, people who inject insulin aren't militantly defensive. Or people who get allergy shots.
But GLP users, wow.

Diabetics and allergic people aren't attacked for using medicine. BUT gLp users, wow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Looks like someone realized that they're out of a job now...

Since most medical providers suggest that people on GLP-1’s see dietitians and trainers, my guess is that OP is losing clients because she’s terrible at her job, particularly the parts that involve interacting with humans, and she’s scapegoating GLP-1 users.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You know, people who inject insulin aren't militantly defensive. Or people who get allergy shots.
But GLP users, wow.

People with diabetes, and parents of kids with diabetes (including T1D) are often told that the disease is their fault. I also think that if someone came on here and went on a rant about how insulin doesn’t cure arthritis or male pattern baldness, people would get defensive.

As a parent of a very allergic kid who needed allergy shots, I can tell you there is plenty of judgement about allergies too. For example, I have been told that my kid’s asthma is my fault because I didn’t raise him on a farm (person telling me this also did not live on a farm), or that wearing a mask to play golf when the grass pollen count is high ruins the experience for people driving past him in their carts and so he should stay home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if OP is the same poster who thinks people on GLP are still "spiritually fat." They get off on the idea they are superior than fat people, and when they no longer have that visual to make themselves feel better, have to fantasize about how their arteries are clearer and their blood is more oxygenated. I actually feel sorry for people like the OP.

I was at a dinner party a couple of weeks ago and a very pretty, thin woman in her 50s was ranting on and on negatively about GLP users. She was so critical, and I knew several of us in the room were on them or had been in the past. No one said a word, so I did. All I said was I had taken them in the past, and they were helpful to lose 30lbs. Of course it was awkward after and she was very quiet then. It's like it's the new politics now with people opposing each other.

[Anonymous]

But if I am accepted (welcomed?) at gyms and doctor's offices now when I was treated as a second class citizen 50 pounds ago, isn't it better that I can now access those services? The problem is that you think you can glance at a person and sum up their health status and then treat them a certain way if they don't measure (no pun intended) up. Look in the mirror and examine your own biases and leave us to our shots that make us acceptable in your world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps it's condescending attitudes like yours that make people think twice when asked to explain their weight loss methodology.

I don't think anyone on here is saying that a number on a scale defines health. Of course, being at a healthy weight is an important indicator, but it's just one data point.

Your disdain and judgement comes screaming through your post in a really off-putting way.

Plus a million! And to add the shot never claimed to do any of the things that OP is claiming.

+1

Ignorant cnt

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There has been some discussion on here recently of people being offended when being asked how they lost weight. And I have noticed through personal experience that a lot of people who are on injectables either don't want people to know they are or get offended when they're asked if they are. For whatever personal reason they have, I think we can all agree we are seeing more and more of it. Whether they just don't want people to know, are ashamed, or want people to think they dieted and exercised it off. Doesn't matter. What does matter is the following:

As a registered dietician and personal trainer, I think it's very important for injectable users to be honest with themselves in regards to this statement:

Weight loss does not automatically equal increased health.

The shot does not give you a better cardio. The shot does not increase oxygen levels in the blood. The shot does not stop further buildup of plaque in your arteries. The shot does not make your heart stronger. The shot does not increase bone density. The shot does not increase lean muscle mass. The shot does not enhance your immune system.

I could go on and on. The moral of the story is, just because you have lost weight from the shot, does not automatically mean you are now healthier. Do you weigh less, yes. Are you eating less and has the food noise stopped, sure. But without exercise and a proper diet (the old fashioned way), you are still just as out of shape as you always were.

I'm not offended. It's a life changing drug and I'm thrilled that so many people can benefit from it.

I am a healthy, life long athlete, endurance runner, home chef, etc, who is also pre-diabetic at my lowest weight, struggled
With gestational diabetes, and has been navigating hormonal weight gain since I was 12.

If there had been a way for me to lose those last 12 pounds naturally, I would
Have found it by now. Trust me.

I'm unequivocally healthier now with the help of GLPs
- eat healthier (more focused on quality than quantity)
- exercise more easily
- happier in my body and mind

[Anonymous]

What I've learned from GLPs is that there are two types of people in the world:

People born into bodies that naturally switch off their appetites with normal amounts of food, and then there are the rest of us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if OP is the same poster who thinks people on GLP are still "spiritually fat." They get off on the idea they are superior than fat people, and when they no longer have that visual to make themselves feel better, have to fantasize about how their arteries are clearer and their blood is more oxygenated. I actually feel sorry for people like the OP.

I was at a dinner party a couple of weeks ago and a very pretty, thin woman in her 50s was ranting on and on negatively about GLP users. She was so critical, and I knew several of us in the room were on them or had been in the past. No one said a word, so I did. All I said was I had taken them in the past, and they were helpful to lose 30lbs. Of course it was awkward after and she was very quiet then. It's like it's the new politics now with people opposing each other.

I have also experienced these people who have never struggled with their weight GLP-1s ranting against them. They are desperate to maintain the moral high ground they have always felt about overweight people. Now they’re no longer overweight, they need to inveigh against the way they got thin. It’s honestly just mean. We aren’t taking these drugs for fun or because we haven’t spent decades trying and failing every single diet and fad.

[Anonymous]

I have no problem with people who use GLP-1s but these responses are unhinged. It looks like lots of folks need some therapy as a result of their medication use.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have no problem with people who use GLP-1s but these responses are unhinged. It looks like lots of folks need some therapy as a result of their medication use.

Have you ever noticed how people who start a sentence with “I have no problem with [x] people, but..” always go on to say something ignorant and unkind?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no problem with people who use GLP-1s but these responses are unhinged. It looks like lots of folks need some therapy as a result of their medication use.

Have you ever noticed how people who start a sentence with “I have no problem with [x] people, but..” always go on to say something ignorant and unkind?

It’s so interesting to me that you think this post is ignorant and unkind but had no reaction to the many posts above by those who use the medication that include name calling, personal insults and even over the top reactions such as “Ignorant cnt.”