Being honest with ourselves about injectables

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There has been some discussion on here recently of people being offended when being asked how they lost weight. And I have noticed through personal experience that a lot of people who are on injectables either don't want people to know they are or get offended when they're asked if they are. For whatever personal reason they have, I think we can all agree we are seeing more and more of it. Whether they just don't want people to know, are ashamed, or want people to think they dieted and exercised it off. Doesn't matter. What does matter is the following:

As a registered dietician and personal trainer, I think it's very important for injectable users to be honest with themselves in regards to this statement:

Weight loss does not automatically equal increased health.

The shot does not give you a better cardio. The shot does not increase oxygen levels in the blood. The shot does not stop further buildup of plaque in your arteries. The shot does not make your heart stronger. The shot does not increase bone density. The shot does not increase lean muscle mass. The shot does not enhance your immune system.

I could go on and on. The moral of the story is, just because you have lost weight from the shot, does not automatically mean you are now healthier. Do you weigh less, yes. Are you eating less and has the food noise stopped, sure. But without exercise and a proper diet (the old fashioned way), you are still just as out of shape as you always were.

I’m an RDN as well and I agree with you, but for Pete’s sake, please learn how to spell the word. We’re DIETITIANS.

[Anonymous]

I thought this was about"injectables" - as in "botox and fillers", since so many people on GLP-1 all of a sudden realize they need to inject their faces too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There has been some discussion on here recently of people being offended when being asked how they lost weight. And I have noticed through personal experience that a lot of people who are on injectables either don't want people to know they are or get offended when they're asked if they are. For whatever personal reason they have, I think we can all agree we are seeing more and more of it. Whether they just don't want people to know, are ashamed, or want people to think they dieted and exercised it off. Doesn't matter. What does matter is the following:

As a registered dietician and personal trainer, I think it's very important for injectable users to be honest with themselves in regards to this statement:

Weight loss does not automatically equal increased health.

The shot does not give you a better cardio. The shot does not increase oxygen levels in the blood. The shot does not stop further buildup of plaque in your arteries. The shot does not make your heart stronger. The shot does not increase bone density. The shot does not increase lean muscle mass. The shot does not enhance your immune system.

I could go on and on. The moral of the story is, just because you have lost weight from the shot, does not automatically mean you are now healthier. Do you weigh less, yes. Are you eating less and has the food noise stopped, sure. But without exercise and a proper diet (the old fashioned way), you are still just as out of shape as you always were.

A lot of normal weight people don't have good cardio health and experience bone loss, etc. I mean, what you're saying applies to anyone and everyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There has been some discussion on here recently of people being offended when being asked how they lost weight. And I have noticed through personal experience that a lot of people who are on injectables either don't want people to know they are or get offended when they're asked if they are. For whatever personal reason they have, I think we can all agree we are seeing more and more of it. Whether they just don't want people to know, are ashamed, or want people to think they dieted and exercised it off. Doesn't matter. What does matter is the following:

As a registered dietician and personal trainer, I think it's very important for injectable users to be honest with themselves in regards to this statement:

Weight loss does not automatically equal increased health.

The shot does not give you a better cardio. The shot does not increase oxygen levels in the blood. The shot does not stop further buildup of plaque in your arteries. The shot does not make your heart stronger. The shot does not increase bone density. The shot does not increase lean muscle mass. The shot does not enhance your immune system.

I could go on and on. The moral of the story is, just because you have lost weight from the shot, does not automatically mean you are now healthier. Do you weigh less, yes. Are you eating less and has the food noise stopped, sure. But without exercise and a proper diet (the old fashioned way), you are still just as out of shape as you always were.

I’m an RDN as well and I agree with you, but for Pete’s sake, please learn how to spell the word. We’re DIETITIANS.

Another RDN here, and I wouldn’t be so condescending. These medications are life changing, even though they can’t do everything.

[Anonymous]

^^ I meant the OP sounds condescending, not PP.

[Anonymous]

I don't tell people because of condescending attitudes like yours. Same way that people often don't tell people they take an antidepressant. People who improve their depression or anxiety solely through yoga, meditation, self care, and exercise (but with modest results, as opposed to excellent results) hate that people are "cheating" by taking a "happy pill" instead of "putting in the work to actually make yourself happier by living a more fulfilling life". Or, alternatively, people with zero experience with depression think "oh they must be a mentally ill person if they're taking that". Gosh, I wonder why people want to keep their medical history to themselves sometimes?

[Anonymous]

I am genetically programmed to be skinny fat.
I hate exercise.
I eat "relatively" healthy, but could eat much healthier.

Despite not being a candidate for weight loss injections, I entirely agree with you, OP.

[Anonymous]

Op you are stuck up. Nobody owes you an explanation of what they’re doing with their body. I’m 20lbs overweight and not on injectables. I eat healthy and work out and I’m still not skinny, but injectables are not for me. But I don’t care what other people do to take control of their health. If they’re eating less and prioritizing healthier foods so they can hit their protein and fiber goal then they are healthier. If they can exercise more because their knees don’t hurt as much then they are healthier. Stop being so judgmental.

Honestly, the worst people I know are dieticians. They all are either hiding their own body and food issues or they shame others for not being as virtuous as they are. See any post with someone asking about a nutritionist and they rush to tell you that only RDs are worthy. Your education was funded by cooca cola and General Mills Cereal and sponsored by the government that adapts recommendations per lobbyists for big food companies.

You need to get over yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There has been some discussion on here recently of people being offended when being asked how they lost weight. And I have noticed through personal experience that a lot of people who are on injectables either don't want people to know they are or get offended when they're asked if they are. For whatever personal reason they have, I think we can all agree we are seeing more and more of it. Whether they just don't want people to know, are ashamed, or want people to think they dieted and exercised it off. Doesn't matter. What does matter is the following:

As a registered dietician and personal trainer, I think it's very important for injectable users to be honest with themselves in regards to this statement:

Weight loss does not automatically equal increased health.

The shot does not give you a better cardio. The shot does not increase oxygen levels in the blood. The shot does not stop further buildup of plaque in your arteries. The shot does not make your heart stronger. The shot does not increase bone density. The shot does not increase lean muscle mass. The shot does not enhance your immune system.

I could go on and on. The moral of the story is, just because you have lost weight from the shot, does not automatically mean you are now healthier. Do you weigh less, yes. Are you eating less and has the food noise stopped, sure. But without exercise and a proper diet (the old fashioned way), you are still just as out of shape as you always were.

The moral I take away is not to be a judgmental ass when they have found something that actually works, unlike all your diet advice which did f-all. Why don’t you find a new line of work since you obviously know nothing about health, physiology, or psychology.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There has been some discussion on here recently of people being offended when being asked how they lost weight. And I have noticed through personal experience that a lot of people who are on injectables either don't want people to know they are or get offended when they're asked if they are. For whatever personal reason they have, I think we can all agree we are seeing more and more of it. Whether they just don't want people to know, are ashamed, or want people to think they dieted and exercised it off. Doesn't matter. What does matter is the following:

As a registered dietician and personal trainer, I think it's very important for injectable users to be honest with themselves in regards to this statement:

Weight loss does not automatically equal increased health.

The shot does not give you a better cardio. The shot does not increase oxygen levels in the blood. The shot does not stop further buildup of plaque in your arteries. The shot does not make your heart stronger. The shot does not increase bone density. The shot does not increase lean muscle mass. The shot does not enhance your immune system.

I could go on and on. The moral of the story is, just because you have lost weight from the shot, does not automatically mean you are now healthier. Do you weigh less, yes. Are you eating less and has the food noise stopped, sure. But without exercise and a proper diet (the old fashioned way), you are still just as out of shape as you always were.

A lot of normal weight people don't have good cardio health and experience bone loss, etc. I mean, what you're saying applies to anyone and everyone.

I fall into that category. My cholesterol is too high and I’ve never been overweight. OP is stating the obvious.

[Anonymous]

Phew a lot of triggered GLP-1 users on this thread… if anything y’all just proved the OP’s point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Phew a lot of triggered GLP-1 users on this thread… if anything y’all just proved the OP’s point.

OK now do the same but with depression- people with depression, who stop taking those pills, are just going to be depressed all over again, amirite? But man, do they get judgmental when we point out that the only reason they aren't depressed is because they're medicated. If they worked harder at their attitudes and their life outlook, instead of copping out by taking Zoloft, they'd actually BE happy. As it is, they're just happy because of the medication. As long as they own the fact that it's different, and let everyone know that they're taking Zoloft, then be my guest- but it's not the same as true happiness the old fashioned way.

[Anonymous]

Looks like someone realized that they're out of a job now...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Phew a lot of triggered GLP-1 users on this thread… if anything y’all just proved the OP’s point.

OK now do the same but with depression- people with depression, who stop taking those pills, are just going to be depressed all over again, amirite? But man, do they get judgmental when we point out that the only reason they aren't depressed is because they're medicated. If they worked harder at their attitudes and their life outlook, instead of copping out by taking Zoloft, they'd actually BE happy. As it is, they're just happy because of the medication. As long as they own the fact that it's different, and let everyone know that they're taking Zoloft, then be my guest- but it's not the same as true happiness the old fashioned way.

Personally think the two are very different, but lots of people on this thread have tried to correlate the two so guess I’m in the minority lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Looks like someone realized that they're out of a job now...

Yep.