Being honest with ourselves about injectables

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Anonymous wrote:We spent the last several years saying the weight on the scale doesn’t matter, but it’s other health measures. So now the same folks are saying that was just bs and the number of the scale is the key?

There are people who are overweight but have normal blood pressure, cholesterol, blood sugar, etc. and for those people, the extra weight probably doesn’t matter. But for the vast majority of people, losing weight will improve health metrics like blood pressure, cholesterol, and blood sugar.

Nice gaslighting and changing the topic. Some of us remember the Health at every size movements.

Were those movements started by physicians or "influencers"?

H.A.E.S. started in the 1960s...

You can literally search for a doctor that champions HAES when looking for a new physician...

Yet suddenly, the scale now matters again.

NP not many of these doctors out there. I’ve never been very overweight (15lbs at most) and looked into it due to constantly being fat shamed by PCPs despite perfectly fine bloodwork and vitals.

In any case I don’t think op is being genuine at all. Most people know nutrition and exercise matter regardless of their weight, and the question is just whether they are willing to implement these habits. This is true regardless of GLP1 use, but a patient who reduces their BMI to a normal or closer to normal one will likely improve their overall health by doing so. And this is very obviously what people are talking about when they mention a 100lb weight loss: patients who were morbidly obese and are no longer so.

BMI is an extremely outdated and inadequate measure of health.

Ask a 6'0", 225lb, male athlete about their BMI. They'll be at 10% body fat and listed as "obese"

I’m well aware but it is still a useful measure among others, not in isolation. There is a reason you added “athlete” here. That’s an indicator of exercise habits and fitness. Replace it by “22 yo gamer who drinks 5 beers a day and lives on fried chicken” and you have an entirely different picture.

I added it for the same reason you added "22 yo gamed who drinks 5 beers a day and lives on fried chicken".

Let me ask you this:

If that 22 yo gamer who drinks 5 beers a day and lives on fried chicken is a 5'5" female who weighs 140lbs, are they healthy?

According to their BMI, they are.

We’re going in circles here. As I said it is one measure among others to take into consideration.

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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps it's condescending attitudes like yours that make people think twice when asked to explain their weight loss methodology.

I don't think anyone on here is saying that a number on a scale defines health. Of course, being at a healthy weight is an important indicator, but it's just one data point.

Your disdain and judgement comes screaming through your post in a really off-putting way.

Exactly this. I don't want to deal with judgmental jerks like OP all the time.

I have lost weight on a GLP-1. I actually working with a dietician - I have changed my diet and I exercise regularly. I AM healthy.
I'm not sure why OP assumes that people on GLP-1s don't exercise and aren't healthy. She's absolutely wrong.

She sounds a little jealous or maybe upset that she's no longer "superior" to a lot of us, no?

This reads as if you felt inferior to (for lack of a better term) in shape people.

I was absolutely MADE to feel inferior by thin people like OP.

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Anonymous wrote:OP is a troll. How can she not know how to spell the name of her own career??

I guarantee that OP is a nutritionist and not a registered dietitian. She doesn't have a degree, she just thinks she knows better than people because she works in a gym or maybe a "wellness center".

If they were trolling, it definitely worked. People are going off the rails defending their GLP-1s. OP specifically talked about people who DON’T workout, yet there are countless replies on here of people going at the OP by saying they’re healthier now bc of their GLP-1 and exercising lol. Isn’t that basically what the post was saying to begin with? The amount of responses of people defending GLP-1s based on points/claims OP didn’t even make is astonishing.

The post was about people who don’t exercise or eat healthier (but lose weight while denying/hiding that it was bc of GLP-1) and act like they’re now suddenly healthy. All of a sudden it’s about anti anxiety meds, insulin, and them not having a job anymore?

Gotta commend a solid troll job when I see it. You’ve really stirred the pot this evening.

I'm sorry, did you read the OP, because what you are saying and what she said are two very different things. I don't understand the hate for people who use GLP-1s to lose weight. I am/was obese. I tried everything to lose weight - I worked out religiously, I tracked my macros and ate in a calorie deficit, but I could not get past a certain weight. I am insulin resistant. With a GLP-1, I have lost 40 lbs and I am absolutely not ashamed of it. Am I shouting from the rooftops that I'm on Zepbound? No, of course not, but I also don't know anyone who shouts from the rooftops about ANY medication they are on.

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Anonymous wrote:I have no problem with people who use GLP-1s but these responses are unhinged. It looks like lots of folks need some therapy as a result of their judgment of medication use that is absolutely none of their business.

I corrected your post.

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Anonymous wrote:Phew a lot of triggered GLP-1 users on this thread… if anything y’all just proved the OP’s point.

OK now do the same but with depression- people with depression, who stop taking those pills, are just going to be depressed all over again, amirite? But man, do they get judgmental when we point out that the only reason they aren't depressed is because they're medicated. If they worked harder at their attitudes and their life outlook, instead of copping out by taking Zoloft, they'd actually BE happy. As it is, they're just happy because of the medication. As long as they own the fact that it's different, and let everyone know that they're taking Zoloft, then be my guest- but it's not the same as true happiness the old fashioned way.

I think a better comparison would be the COVID vaccine.

Both are:
Shots
Rushed to the market (like a lot of these new GLP-1s are, not all, but A LOT of new ones are suddenly popping up)
Resulted from significant public health hazards (COVID & Obesity are both categorized as such)
Unknown long term side effects
Cause short term side effects in some people and not in others
Needed for a specific subsection of the population
Not needed for the healthy population
Have die hard supporters and adversaries
Have people who are proud to have taken it
Have people who lied about taking it

You sound incredibly ignorant.

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Anonymous wrote:OP is definitely ignorant. Not sure about cnt because I don’t know her. It is ignorant to believe that someone who is 50 or 100 pounds lighter isn’t healthier. OP doesn’t understand the full definition of healthy. Also, why did she feel the need to post this? Maybe that’s where cnt comes in.

Another example of saying someone who is lighter is automatically healthier...

Someone who loses a 100 lbs is of course healthier than they were before they lost the weight.

So if I'm an adult who weighs 160lbs, develop a severe eating disorder, and lose 100lbs... I am now HEALTHIER at my new 60lb weight?

Why would you write something that you think is making a great point but actually makes you sound so stupid? Nobody is talking about going from 160 to 60. They are talking about someone who moves from, for example, an Obese BMI to an Overweight BMI.

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The vast majority of people on GLP-1s are working with medical professionals, so thanks for your concern, but it's not needed.