Being honest with ourselves about injectables

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps it's condescending attitudes like yours that make people think twice when asked to explain their weight loss methodology.

I don't think anyone on here is saying that a number on a scale defines health. Of course, being at a healthy weight is an important indicator, but it's just one data point.

Your disdain and judgement comes screaming through your post in a really off-putting way.

Plus a million! And to add the shot never claimed to do any of the things that OP is claiming.

Lots of users claim they are healthier, none of us can deny that. I think all the OP, while very condescending, is trying to say is that skinniness =/= health

Many people are skinny fat, with or without GLP-1. But no one is attacking those who are "naturally" skinny.

[Anonymous]

Of course it's increased health. It's not perfect health, but it's better. 100% of GLP users have better blood results, that means better heart health. Less Visceral fat=healthier, no?

[Anonymous]

Hmmm maybe it’s that most of us have endured years and years of feeling like failures he we struggle to lose weight on our own. So it’s tough to overcome the “shame” of needing pharmaceutical help. It’s the same with antidepressants. I have been on them for decades and only recently started feeling ok talking about my experience bc people are judgey a-holes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps it's condescending attitudes like yours that make people think twice when asked to explain their weight loss methodology.

I don't think anyone on here is saying that a number on a scale defines health. Of course, being at a healthy weight is an important indicator, but it's just one data point.

Your disdain and judgement comes screaming through your post in a really off-putting way.

Plus a million! And to add the shot never claimed to do any of the things that OP is claiming.

Lots of users claim they are healthier, none of us can deny that. I think all the OP, while very condescending, is trying to say is that skinniness =/= health

Except people like OP are obsessed with skinniness and do think it makes them better and healthier, and can't abide the idea others "cheated" their way there while they have been miserable and starved themselves "the right way."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps it's condescending attitudes like yours that make people think twice when asked to explain their weight loss methodology.

I don't think anyone on here is saying that a number on a scale defines health. Of course, being at a healthy weight is an important indicator, but it's just one data point.

Your disdain and judgement comes screaming through your post in a really off-putting way.

Plus a million! And to add the shot never claimed to do any of the things that OP is claiming.

Lots of users claim they are healthier, none of us can deny that. I think all the OP, while very condescending, is trying to say is that skinniness =/= health

Except people like OP are obsessed with skinniness and do think it makes them better and healthier, and can't abide the idea others "cheated" their way there while they have been miserable and starved themselves "the right way."

Worse, OP makes her living "making others skinny" and is seeing her bottom line get eaten into so she has to degrade a really useful tool. Sorry, no.

[Anonymous]

Do registered dietitians and personal trainers have codes of ethics?

Do those ethics say anything about shitposting and trolling message boards?

It’s not so much the message but the way it was delivered.

And yes, weighing less does mean you are healthier.

What a dipshit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Of course it's increased health. It's not perfect health, but it's better. 100% of GLP users have better blood results, that means better heart health. Less Visceral fat=healthier, no?

Not always, for both of these statements.

Blood tests can yield "good" or "normal" results and the person could have heart disease, cardiovascular disease, increased hardened plaque, etc.

Less visceral fat is usually a good thing, but there is a limit. If someone already has a low amount of visceral fat or loses too much, less can cause a slew of health issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps it's condescending attitudes like yours that make people think twice when asked to explain their weight loss methodology.

I don't think anyone on here is saying that a number on a scale defines health. Of course, being at a healthy weight is an important indicator, but it's just one data point.

Your disdain and judgement comes screaming through your post in a really off-putting way.

Plus a million! And to add the shot never claimed to do any of the things that OP is claiming.

Lots of users claim they are healthier, none of us can deny that. I think all the OP, while very condescending, is trying to say is that skinniness =/= health

Except people like OP are obsessed with skinniness and do think it makes them better and healthier, and can't abide the idea others "cheated" their way there while they have been miserable and starved themselves "the right way."

I think this is another huge issue with the health and fitness industry. "The right way" does not mean you have to be miserable and starve yourself... This mindset is what puts so many people onto GLP-1s.

[Anonymous]

Who cares? It's a step that helps people. Most exercise more after losing weight.

Mental health is also improved. That is also improving health.

These discussions remind me of when SSRIs were new. So much shaming towards people who used them. I'm old enough to remember this but you may not be. Some people do not need these drugs and some do.

Live and let live!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do registered dietitians and personal trainers have codes of ethics?

Do those ethics say anything about shitposting and trolling message boards?

It’s not so much the message but the way it was delivered.

And yes, weighing less does mean you are healthier.

What a dipshit.

Ehhhh not exactly. Weighing less does not mean you are healthier. Not trying to argue or defend OP, but that blanket statement isn't true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There has been some discussion on here recently of people being offended when being asked how they lost weight. And I have noticed through personal experience that a lot of people who are on injectables either don't want people to know they are or get offended when they're asked if they are. For whatever personal reason they have, I think we can all agree we are seeing more and more of it. Whether they just don't want people to know, are ashamed, or want people to think they dieted and exercised it off. Doesn't matter. What does matter is the following:

As a registered dietician and personal trainer, I think it's very important for injectable users to be honest with themselves in regards to this statement:

Weight loss does not automatically equal increased health.

The shot does not give you a better cardio. The shot does not increase oxygen levels in the blood. The shot does not stop further buildup of plaque in your arteries. The shot does not make your heart stronger. The shot does not increase bone density. The shot does not increase lean muscle mass. The shot does not enhance your immune system.

I could go on and on. The moral of the story is, just because you have lost weight from the shot, does not automatically mean you are now healthier. Do you weigh less, yes. Are you eating less and has the food noise stopped, sure. But without exercise and a proper diet (the old fashioned way), you are still just as out of shape as you always were.

I was morbidly obese. I've had decades of doctors tell me that I need to lose weight to be healthier.

I've lost 120 lbs on GLP-1 drug. I don't hide this from anyone and I'm not ashamed of it.

My doctor says I'm dramatically healthier since I've lost the weight. Please explain to me how that is not the case?

[Anonymous]

A lot of people who have lost weight by using a GLP-1 are in better health. Blood pressure is down, cholesterol. Blood sugar. There are lots of improvements to health.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There has been some discussion on here recently of people being offended when being asked how they lost weight. And I have noticed through personal experience that a lot of people who are on injectables either don't want people to know they are or get offended when they're asked if they are. For whatever personal reason they have, I think we can all agree we are seeing more and more of it. Whether they just don't want people to know, are ashamed, or want people to think they dieted and exercised it off. Doesn't matter. What does matter is the following:

As a registered dietician and personal trainer, I think it's very important for injectable users to be honest with themselves in regards to this statement:

Weight loss does not automatically equal increased health.

The shot does not give you a better cardio. The shot does not increase oxygen levels in the blood. The shot does not stop further buildup of plaque in your arteries. The shot does not make your heart stronger. The shot does not increase bone density. The shot does not increase lean muscle mass. The shot does not enhance your immune system.

I could go on and on. The moral of the story is, just because you have lost weight from the shot, does not automatically mean you are now healthier. Do you weigh less, yes. Are you eating less and has the food noise stopped, sure. But without exercise and a proper diet (the old fashioned way), you are still just as out of shape as you always were.

Um… we all know this.
By the way, I use injectables and am a fitness instructor in great shape.
My A1c is now lower and I’m lighter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps it's condescending attitudes like yours that make people think twice when asked to explain their weight loss methodology.

I don't think anyone on here is saying that a number on a scale defines health. Of course, being at a healthy weight is an important indicator, but it's just one data point.

Your disdain and judgement comes screaming through your post in a really off-putting way.

Exactly this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps it's condescending attitudes like yours that make people think twice when asked to explain their weight loss methodology.

I don't think anyone on here is saying that a number on a scale defines health. Of course, being at a healthy weight is an important indicator, but it's just one data point.

Your disdain and judgement comes screaming through your post in a really off-putting way.

Exactly this.

So much this. Many people who take glp-1’s have struggled for years trying all of the things OP preaches about as if eating well and exercising magically yields a perfect weight and fitness level. OP ignores that people don’t have to be diabetic to have insulin resistance issues or other metabolic issues going on.

People who use injectibles are assumed to be either lazy, wanting the easy way, or strictly focused on vanity. No wonder they don’t want to share.