Being honest with ourselves about injectables

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot of people who have lost weight by using a GLP-1 are in better health. Blood pressure is down, cholesterol. Blood sugar. There are lots of improvements to health.

Exactly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like someone realized that they're out of a job now...

Yep.

Unfortunately for us, I doubt this is the case. As far as personal training goes, the fitness industry is BOOMING. Just looking at the running industry specifically, marathons are more popular than ever. The rise of GLP-1s have been getting new inexperienced people in the gym who are eager to have trainers. Hyrox is everywhere now, gyms are packed, etc.

As far as the dietitian part, speaking for myself, I am on a GLP-1 and am in regular contact with the dietitian my prescribing doctor recommended for me. A quick google search also shows a rise in dietitians and nutritionists. As much as we’re all rooting against OP here, one of the side effects of GLP-1s is promoting both industries they’re in. Which is a good thing for humanity!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps it's condescending attitudes like yours that make people think twice when asked to explain their weight loss methodology.

I don't think anyone on here is saying that a number on a scale defines health. Of course, being at a healthy weight is an important indicator, but it's just one data point.

Your disdain and judgement comes screaming through your post in a really off-putting way.

This

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Phew a lot of triggered GLP-1 users on this thread… if anything y’all just proved the OP’s point.

OK now do the same but with depression- people with depression, who stop taking those pills, are just going to be depressed all over again, amirite? But man, do they get judgmental when we point out that the only reason they aren't depressed is because they're medicated. If they worked harder at their attitudes and their life outlook, instead of copping out by taking Zoloft, they'd actually BE happy. As it is, they're just happy because of the medication. As long as they own the fact that it's different, and let everyone know that they're taking Zoloft, then be my guest- but it's not the same as true happiness the old fashioned way.

Personally think the two are very different, but lots of people on this thread have tried to correlate the two so guess I’m in the minority lol

How are they different? People with depression have different brain chemistry than people without it- I think that's pretty universally accepted. But you don't agree that some people have very different ghrelin levels (the hunger hormone)? And that some people's bodies and brains react differently to that chemical, even if they have the same circulating levels of it? And you don't agree that obesity is a very complex medical issue that is nearly impossible to achieve long term success with, without the aid of medication, as has been proven time and time again by the total lack of efficacy of pretty much every diet out there, in terms of long term success?

[Anonymous]

I use a GLP 1. As a tool for my overall health. I weigh less so I have the ability/energy to increase my stamina and work out more. I weigh less and my cholesterol levels have returned to a normal range and I have stopped my statin drug. I weigh less and my clothes fit/feel better, which makes me happier overall and I've been able to decrease my anti-depressant medication.
Do I shout my "technique" from the rooftops? I do not. OP is why

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There has been some discussion on here recently of people being offended when being asked how they lost weight. And I have noticed through personal experience that a lot of people who are on injectables either don't want people to know they are or get offended when they're asked if they are. For whatever personal reason they have, I think we can all agree we are seeing more and more of it. Whether they just don't want people to know, are ashamed, or want people to think they dieted and exercised it off. Doesn't matter. What does matter is the following:

As a registered dietician and personal trainer, I think it's very important for injectable users to be honest with themselves in regards to this statement:

Weight loss does not automatically equal increased health.

The shot does not give you a better cardio. The shot does not increase oxygen levels in the blood. The shot does not stop further buildup of plaque in your arteries. The shot does not make your heart stronger. The shot does not increase bone density. The shot does not increase lean muscle mass. The shot does not enhance your immune system.

I could go on and on. The moral of the story is, just because you have lost weight from the shot, does not automatically mean you are now healthier. Do you weigh less, yes. Are you eating less and has the food noise stopped, sure. But without exercise and a proper diet (the old fashioned way), you are still just as out of shape as you always were.

I was morbidly obese. I've had decades of doctors tell me that I need to lose weight to be healthier.

I've lost 120 lbs on GLP-1 drug. I don't hide this from anyone and I'm not ashamed of it.

My doctor says I'm dramatically healthier since I've lost the weight. Please explain to me how that is not the case?

Wow. That is amazing. You go!!!

[Anonymous]

Oh my god, get off your high horse, smuggernaut.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps it's condescending attitudes like yours that make people think twice when asked to explain their weight loss methodology.

I don't think anyone on here is saying that a number on a scale defines health. Of course, being at a healthy weight is an important indicator, but it's just one data point.

Your disdain and judgement comes screaming through your post in a really off-putting way.

Exactly this. I don't want to deal with judgmental jerks like OP all the time.

I have lost weight on a GLP-1. I actually working with a dietician - I have changed my diet and I exercise regularly. I AM healthy.
I'm not sure why OP assumes that people on GLP-1s don't exercise and aren't healthy. She's absolutely wrong.

She sounds a little jealous or maybe upset that she's no longer "superior" to a lot of us, no?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There has been some discussion on here recently of people being offended when being asked how they lost weight. And I have noticed through personal experience that a lot of people who are on injectables either don't want people to know they are or get offended when they're asked if they are. For whatever personal reason they have, I think we can all agree we are seeing more and more of it. Whether they just don't want people to know, are ashamed, or want people to think they dieted and exercised it off. Doesn't matter. What does matter is the following:

As a registered dietician and personal trainer, I think it's very important for injectable users to be honest with themselves in regards to this statement:

Weight loss does not automatically equal increased health.

The shot does not give you a better cardio. The shot does not increase oxygen levels in the blood. The shot does not stop further buildup of plaque in your arteries. The shot does not make your heart stronger. The shot does not increase bone density. The shot does not increase lean muscle mass. The shot does not enhance your immune system.

I could go on and on. The moral of the story is, just because you have lost weight from the shot, does not automatically mean you are now healthier. Do you weigh less, yes. Are you eating less and has the food noise stopped, sure. But without exercise and a proper diet (the old fashioned way), you are still just as out of shape as you always were.

Sweetheart, I know a lot of thin people who are incredibly unhealthy. They don't exercise, they don't eat well, they have poor heart health and bone density, they are "skinny fat", they are sickly. They have never taken a GLP-1, they're just not healthy. So much of health has absolutely nothing to do with weight. Shouldn't you as a registered dietician know this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There has been some discussion on here recently of people being offended when being asked how they lost weight. And I have noticed through personal experience that a lot of people who are on injectables either don't want people to know they are or get offended when they're asked if they are. For whatever personal reason they have, I think we can all agree we are seeing more and more of it. Whether they just don't want people to know, are ashamed, or want people to think they dieted and exercised it off. Doesn't matter. What does matter is the following:

As a registered dietician and personal trainer, I think it's very important for injectable users to be honest with themselves in regards to this statement:

Weight loss does not automatically equal increased health.

The shot does not give you a better cardio. The shot does not increase oxygen levels in the blood. The shot does not stop further buildup of plaque in your arteries. The shot does not make your heart stronger. The shot does not increase bone density. The shot does not increase lean muscle mass. The shot does not enhance your immune system.

I could go on and on. The moral of the story is, just because you have lost weight from the shot, does not automatically mean you are now healthier. Do you weigh less, yes. Are you eating less and has the food noise stopped, sure. But without exercise and a proper diet (the old fashioned way), you are still just as out of shape as you always were.

You could go on and on - you did, but, the shot does mean my cholesterol levels are in the normal range; the shot does mean my blood pressure is normal instead of high; the shot does mean I'm less likely to get a whole host of diseases.

So please OP, get off your sanctimonious high horse, and let those who are happy to be losing weight easily for once in their lives, alone

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps it's condescending attitudes like yours that make people think twice when asked to explain their weight loss methodology.

I don't think anyone on here is saying that a number on a scale defines health. Of course, being at a healthy weight is an important indicator, but it's just one data point.

Your disdain and judgement comes screaming through your post in a really off-putting way.

Plus a million! And to add the shot never claimed to do any of the things that OP is claiming.

Lots of users claim they are healthier, none of us can deny that. I think all the OP, while very condescending, is trying to say is that skinniness =/= health

Right but a lot of skinny people are not skinny because they used a GLP-1. So no, that's not what OP is saying. OP is just trying to justify her career choices, LOL!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You know, people who inject insulin aren't militantly defensive. Or people who get allergy shots.
But GLP users, wow.

Interestingly, I don't see the hate for diabetics on insulin or people who get allergy shots here, do you????? Nope. I only see people who are upset they're no longer the skinny friend.

[Anonymous]

OP is a troll. How can she not know how to spell the name of her own career??

I guarantee that OP is a nutritionist and not a registered dietitian. She doesn't have a degree, she just thinks she knows better than people because she works in a gym or maybe a "wellness center".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps it's condescending attitudes like yours that make people think twice when asked to explain their weight loss methodology.

I don't think anyone on here is saying that a number on a scale defines health. Of course, being at a healthy weight is an important indicator, but it's just one data point.

Your disdain and judgement comes screaming through your post in a really off-putting way.

Exactly this. I don't want to deal with judgmental jerks like OP all the time.

I have lost weight on a GLP-1. I actually working with a dietician - I have changed my diet and I exercise regularly. I AM healthy.
I'm not sure why OP assumes that people on GLP-1s don't exercise and aren't healthy. She's absolutely wrong.

She sounds a little jealous or maybe upset that she's no longer "superior" to a lot of us, no?

This reads as if you felt inferior to (for lack of a better term) in shape people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP is a troll. How can she not know how to spell the name of her own career??

I guarantee that OP is a nutritionist and not a registered dietitian. She doesn't have a degree, she just thinks she knows better than people because she works in a gym or maybe a "wellness center".

If they were trolling, it definitely worked. People are going off the rails defending their GLP-1s. OP specifically talked about people who DON’T workout, yet there are countless replies on here of people going at the OP by saying they’re healthier now bc of their GLP-1 and exercising lol. Isn’t that basically what the post was saying to begin with? The amount of responses of people defending GLP-1s based on points/claims OP didn’t even make is astonishing.

The post was about people who don’t exercise or eat healthier (but lose weight while denying/hiding that it was bc of GLP-1) and act like they’re now suddenly healthy. All of a sudden it’s about anti anxiety meds, insulin, and them not having a job anymore?

Gotta commend a solid troll job when I see it. You’ve really stirred the pot this evening.