Invasion of Venezuela thread

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The projected cost of a US invasion of Venezuela is over 1 trillion. This does not include long term occupation, VA benefits, etc.

Yeah. These dolts don't understand how inaccessible many of these oil fields are and how a protracted guerrilla war in those areas will drain American resources and cause the entire region to destabilize.

Wait I thought we were fighting fentanyl imports to the US by blowing fisherman, stopping funding to ant cocaine growing intervention,in Columbia and committing war crimes that stop five eyes intelligence sharing?

The justification changes by the hour.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The major international oil companies want in on Venezuela because the world has reached peak oil demand. This means oil surpluses and falling prices.

Venezuela has low production cost($8-$12 a barrel).
The US is a high cost oil producer. Fracking cost $70-$100 a barrel. If oil is headed to $30-$40 a barrel or lower oil over the next 5 years companies need to find low cost production to make money.

Oil prices in the last five days has fallen by 3.71%. This is with Russian(3rd largest producer) production severely cut and Trump announcing an oil blockade of Venezuela(18th largest producer).

The world is past peak oil demand. Prices are low, demand is dropping and it is only Russia and the saudi's who are scrambling to maintain any sort of market share, given the rest of the world has moved on to renewables and nuclear.

[Anonymous]

Trump on Venezuela: "Getting land, oil rights, whatever we had -- they took it away because we had a president that maybe wasn't watching. But they're not gonna do that. We want it back. They took our oil rights. We had a lot of oil there. They threw our companies out. And we want it back."


Note: no mention of drugs. I thought that was why they were blowing up boats?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The major international oil companies want in on Venezuela because the world has reached peak oil demand. This means oil surpluses and falling prices.

Venezuela has low production cost($8-$12 a barrel).
The US is a high cost oil producer. Fracking cost $70-$100 a barrel. If oil is headed to $30-$40 a barrel or lower oil over the next 5 years companies need to find low cost production to make money.

Oil prices in the last five days has fallen by 3.71%. This is with Russian(3rd largest producer) production severely cut and Trump announcing an oil blockade of Venezuela(18th largest producer).

The world is past peak oil demand. Prices are low, demand is dropping and it is only Russia and the saudi's who are scrambling to maintain any sort of market share, given the rest of the world has moved on to renewables and nuclear.

Shale production does not cost $70-100 a barrel. It costs half that. If PP is talking out of their buttocks on that...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump on Venezuela: "Getting land, oil rights, whatever we had -- they took it away because we had a president that maybe wasn't watching. But they're not gonna do that. We want it back. They took our oil rights. We had a lot of oil there. They threw our companies out. And we want it back."


Note: no mention of drugs. I thought that was why they were blowing up boats?

Pretty sure if the US sends soldiers into Venezuela, that's the last nail in the MAGA coffin. There's no rationale for invading a country that poses zero risk for America, especially when almost everyone that lives in urban areas probably knows a Venezuelan American. The podcasters are going to shred the administration, and I'm guessing that the Israel lobby will take huge collateral damage as well, from the stop endless wars crowd. These neocons and pro-Israel lobby are so stupid.



BTW, this is the Marco Rubio angle, in case you missed it:

For Rubio the Cuba Hawk, the Road to Havana Runs Through Venezuela
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/12/us/politics/rubio-cuba-venezuela.html

President Trump’s secretary of state and national security adviser has long sought to cripple or topple Cuba’s government, which has close security and economic ties to Venezuela.

Nearly seven years later, Mr. [Nicolás] Maduro is still in power. Mr. Rubio, now Mr. Trump’s secretary of state and interim national security adviser, is a primary architect of an escalating military pressure campaign against Venezuela. And while pushing out Mr. Maduro appears to be one immediate goal of U.S. policy, doing so could help fulfill another decades-long dream of Mr. Rubio’s: dealing a critical blow to Cuba.

“Their theory of change involves cutting off all support to Cuba,” said Juan S. Gonzalez, who was President Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s top White House aide for Western Hemisphere affairs. “Under this approach, once Venezuela goes, Cuba will follow.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump on Venezuela: "Getting land, oil rights, whatever we had -- they took it away because we had a president that maybe wasn't watching. But they're not gonna do that. We want it back. They took our oil rights. We had a lot of oil there. They threw our companies out. And we want it back."


Note: no mention of drugs. I thought that was why they were blowing up boats?

Pretty sure if the US sends soldiers into Venezuela, that's the last nail in the MAGA coffin. There's no rationale for invading a country that poses zero risk for America, especially when almost everyone that lives in urban areas probably knows a Venezuelan American. The podcasters are going to shred the administration, and I'm guessing that the Israel lobby will take huge collateral damage as well, from the stop endless wars crowd. These neocons and pro-Israel lobby are so stupid.



BTW, this is the Marco Rubio angle, in case you missed it:

For Rubio the Cuba Hawk, the Road to Havana Runs Through Venezuela
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/12/us/politics/rubio-cuba-venezuela.html

President Trump’s secretary of state and national security adviser has long sought to cripple or topple Cuba’s government, which has close security and economic ties to Venezuela.

Nearly seven years later, Mr. [Nicolás] Maduro is still in power. Mr. Rubio, now Mr. Trump’s secretary of state and interim national security adviser, is a primary architect of an escalating military pressure campaign against Venezuela. And while pushing out Mr. Maduro appears to be one immediate goal of U.S. policy, doing so could help fulfill another decades-long dream of Mr. Rubio’s: dealing a critical blow to Cuba.

“Their theory of change involves cutting off all support to Cuba,” said Juan S. Gonzalez, who was President Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s top White House aide for Western Hemisphere affairs. “Under this approach, once Venezuela goes, Cuba will follow.”

Marco wants a nicer Cuba so when we deport him, it will be more pleasant.

[Anonymous]

Is this what the speech will be about today?

[Anonymous]

Well now Venezuela's Navy is escorting oil tankers, so either Trump is going to have to order the US Navy to use force or let them run his blockade and look like a weak fool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The major international oil companies want in on Venezuela because the world has reached peak oil demand. This means oil surpluses and falling prices.

Venezuela has low production cost($8-$12 a barrel).
The US is a high cost oil producer. Fracking cost $70-$100 a barrel. If oil is headed to $30-$40 a barrel or lower oil over the next 5 years companies need to find low cost production to make money.

Oil prices in the last five days has fallen by 3.71%. This is with Russian(3rd largest producer) production severely cut and Trump announcing an oil blockade of Venezuela(18th largest producer).

The world is past peak oil demand. Prices are low, demand is dropping and it is only Russia and the saudi's who are scrambling to maintain any sort of market share, given the rest of the world has moved on to renewables and nuclear.

Shale production does not cost $70-100 a barrel. It costs half that. If PP is talking out of their buttocks on that...

Breakeven for Shale Oil is $70/Barrel Now; Report Says Going to $95
new report from big energy data analytics firm Enverus finds that the average breakeven price for new shale wells in the United States currently sits at $70 per barrel. That's a problem, because the sale price for a barrel of West Texas Intermediate (WTI) crude has been firmly in the $60s for months. U.S. shale drillers can't drill new wells if they lose money. Consequently, they're beginning to lay down the rigs and stop new drilling. But here's the even more troubling part of the report: Enverus predicts the breakeven price will rise to around $95 per barrel within ten years.

https://marcellusdrilling.com/2025/09/breakeven-for-shale-oil-is-70-barrel-now-report-says-going-to-95/#:~:text=Breakeven%20for%20Shale%20Oil%20is,to%20$95%20%2D%20Marcellus%20Drilling%20News

Shale production $70 a barrel and increasing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is this what the speech will be about today?

It will be about Biden. Trump is obsessed with Biden.

[Anonymous]

Really makes you think

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump on Venezuela: "Getting land, oil rights, whatever we had -- they took it away because we had a president that maybe wasn't watching. But they're not gonna do that. We want it back. They took our oil rights. We had a lot of oil there. They threw our companies out. And we want it back."


Note: no mention of drugs. I thought that was why they were blowing up boats?

Pretty sure if the US sends soldiers into Venezuela, that's the last nail in the MAGA coffin. There's no rationale for invading a country that poses zero risk for America, especially when almost everyone that lives in urban areas probably knows a Venezuelan American. The podcasters are going to shred the administration, and I'm guessing that the Israel lobby will take huge collateral damage as well, from the stop endless wars crowd. These neocons and pro-Israel lobby are so stupid.



BTW, this is the Marco Rubio angle, in case you missed it:

For Rubio the Cuba Hawk, the Road to Havana Runs Through Venezuela
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/12/us/politics/rubio-cuba-venezuela.html

President Trump’s secretary of state and national security adviser has long sought to cripple or topple Cuba’s government, which has close security and economic ties to Venezuela.

Nearly seven years later, Mr. [Nicolás] Maduro is still in power. Mr. Rubio, now Mr. Trump’s secretary of state and interim national security adviser, is a primary architect of an escalating military pressure campaign against Venezuela. And while pushing out Mr. Maduro appears to be one immediate goal of U.S. policy, doing so could help fulfill another decades-long dream of Mr. Rubio’s: dealing a critical blow to Cuba.

“Their theory of change involves cutting off all support to Cuba,” said Juan S. Gonzalez, who was President Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s top White House aide for Western Hemisphere affairs. “Under this approach, once Venezuela goes, Cuba will follow.”

MAGA are animals, and animals respond predictably to threats. They will fall in line.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Really makes you think

Merry Christmas, chumps. Time to send your kids off to die.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is this what the speech will be about today?

Yes—about how we are going to sacrifice a bunch of soldiers to keep the oil companies rich.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this what the speech will be about today?

Yes—about how we are going to sacrifice a bunch of soldiers to keep the oil companies rich.

And he’s going to send a check to every military member to try to bribe them into supporting it.