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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Trump on Venezuela: "Getting land, oil rights, whatever we had -- they took it away because we had a president that maybe wasn't watching. But they're not gonna do that. We want it back. They took our oil rights. We had a lot of oil there. They threw our companies out. And we want it back."

Note: no mention of drugs. I thought that was why they were blowing up boats?[/quote]

Pretty sure if the US sends soldiers into Venezuela, that's the last nail in the MAGA coffin. There's no rationale for invading a country that poses zero risk for America, especially when almost everyone that lives in urban areas probably knows a Venezuelan American. The podcasters are going to shred the administration, and I'm guessing that the Israel lobby will take huge collateral damage as well, from the stop endless wars crowd. These neocons and pro-Israel lobby are so stupid.

BTW, this is the Marco Rubio angle, in case you missed it:

For Rubio the Cuba Hawk, the Road to Havana Runs Through Venezuela
[url]https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/12/us/politics/rubio-cuba-venezuela.html[/url]

President Trump’s secretary of state and national security adviser has long sought to cripple or topple Cuba’s government, which has close security and economic ties to Venezuela.

Nearly seven years later, Mr. [Nicolás] Maduro is still in power. Mr. Rubio, now Mr. Trump’s secretary of state and interim national security adviser, is a primary architect of an escalating military pressure campaign against Venezuela. And while pushing out Mr. Maduro appears to be one immediate goal of U.S. policy, doing so could help fulfill another decades-long dream of Mr. Rubio’s: dealing a critical blow to Cuba.

“Their theory of change involves cutting off all support to Cuba,” said Juan S. Gonzalez, who was President Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s top White House aide for Western Hemisphere affairs. “Under this approach, once Venezuela goes, Cuba will follow.”[/quote]

MAGA are animals, and animals respond predictably to threats. They will fall in line. [/quote]

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