Invasion of Venezuela thread

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Susie Wiles said that Trump's military strikes against drug traffickers in the Caribbean are about making Venezuelan dictator Nicolás Maduro cry "uncle," appearing to contradict the official U.S. position that the campaign is not about regime change.

Ok. So I’ve been ignoring the news about Trump headed towards war with Venezuela bc it’s so insane. One of the reason he win was “no foreign wars”. Demanded to capitalize on this and fast! I’m down for Dem leaders who denounce foreign wars!

The way to do this though is not to focus on “regime change” bc honestly no American cares no matter how immoral but focus on “America First” and why we are wasting resources we can spend here in the USA.

#mtg

Dem leaders can denounce "foreign wars" until the cows come home, but the Republicanswho control Congress are the only ones who can stop Trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Susie Wiles said that Trump's military strikes against drug traffickers in the Caribbean are about making Venezuelan dictator Nicolás Maduro cry "uncle," appearing to contradict the official U.S. position that the campaign is not about regime change.

Ok. So I’ve been ignoring the news about Trump headed towards war with Venezuela bc it’s so insane. One of the reason he win was “no foreign wars”. Demanded to capitalize on this and fast! I’m down for Dem leaders who denounce foreign wars!

The way to do this though is not to focus on “regime change” bc honestly no American cares no matter how immoral but focus on “America First” and why we are wasting resources we can spend here in the USA.

#mtg

Dem leaders can denounce "foreign wars" until the cows come home, but the Republicanswho control Congress are the only ones who can stop Trump.

Republicans is congress are the true believers in Trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Susie Wiles said that Trump's military strikes against drug traffickers in the Caribbean are about making Venezuelan dictator Nicolás Maduro cry "uncle," appearing to contradict the official U.S. position that the campaign is not about regime change.

Blowing up fishing boats will have no impact on Maduro. That is delusional.

[Anonymous]

Word is US special forces are working with the Colombian cocaine growers on the Venezuela border.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Susie Wiles said that Trump's military strikes against drug traffickers in the Caribbean are about making Venezuelan dictator Nicolás Maduro cry "uncle," appearing to contradict the official U.S. position that the campaign is not about regime change.

Blowing up fishing boats will have no impact on Maduro. That is delusional.

Tell that to Trump.

[Anonymous]

How much are fake "wartime" deployments, bombings and now blockade costing the American public? Didn't Chump say the borders were sealed? I mean, all those shiny new medals...

The White House: Trump’s Historic Border Victory: From Open Borders to Total Control

Today, President Donald J. Trump will award the newly established Mexican Border Defense Medal to U.S. service members for their extraordinary work to safeguard our nation’s southern border and uphold American sovereignty.

Under President Trump’s decisive leadership, the southern border has undergone a profound transformation to turn back the invasion unleashed by the Biden Administration — achieving levels of security unseen in decades. By reversing Biden-era failed policies and swiftly implementing robust enforcement, the Trump Administration has restored order, deterred illegal entries, and protected American communities from the threats posed by unchecked migration, transnational crime, and fentanyl trafficking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I posted this on the other thread...

Senator Murphy just said on IG that he got his first briefing on this and while he obvs can't share details, he said:

1. There was zero justification.

2. The briefing said there is no fentanyl coming from Venezuela, but that it's cocaine and it's going to Europe NOT to the US. Ergo, we are literally spending taxpayer money to fight drug crimes in Europe!

No we aren't. Don't be naive. This is about imperialism. We're demanding access to their oil and land which we somehow claim they took from us. Trump said as much in his post about the blockade.

Just a bit of history to inform you.

Venezuela started nationalizing its oil industry in the mid-1970s. ExxonMobil, Chevron, Texaco, Gulf, ConocoPhilips etc. all had major oil operations there. Those operations were appropriated by Venezuela piecemeal since then and the only US oil player who remains is Chevron. And Chevron does so through special licenses granted by the US Treasury, Department of Commerce and Venezuela. So, yes, Venezuela did take land and oil from US companies. Thisis a pretty stupid solution to crap that occurred 25-50 years ago, though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Susie Wiles said that Trump's military strikes against drug traffickers in the Caribbean are about making Venezuelan dictator Nicolás Maduro cry "uncle," appearing to contradict the official U.S. position that the campaign is not about regime change.

Ok. So I’ve been ignoring the news about Trump headed towards war with Venezuela bc it’s so insane. One of the reason he win was “no foreign wars”. Demanded to capitalize on this and fast! I’m down for Dem leaders who denounce foreign wars!

The way to do this though is not to focus on “regime change” bc honestly no American cares no matter how immoral but focus on “America First” and why we are wasting resources we can spend here in the USA.

#mtg

Dem leaders can denounce "foreign wars" until the cows come home, but the Republicanswho control Congress are the only ones who can stop Trump.

Republicans is congress are the true believers in Trump.

And ICYMI: Fettermen has voiced support for going after Venezuela. He stands with Trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I posted this on the other thread...

Senator Murphy just said on IG that he got his first briefing on this and while he obvs can't share details, he said:

1. There was zero justification.

2. The briefing said there is no fentanyl coming from Venezuela, but that it's cocaine and it's going to Europe NOT to the US. Ergo, we are literally spending taxpayer money to fight drug crimes in Europe!

No we aren't. Don't be naive. This is about imperialism. We're demanding access to their oil and land which we somehow claim they took from us. Trump said as much in his post about the blockade.

Just a bit of history to inform you.

Venezuela started nationalizing its oil industry in the mid-1970s. ExxonMobil, Chevron, Texaco, Gulf, ConocoPhilips etc. all had major oil operations there. Those operations were appropriated by Venezuela piecemeal since then and the only US oil player who remains is Chevron. And Chevron does so through special licenses granted by the US Treasury, Department of Commerce and Venezuela. So, yes, Venezuela did take land and oil from US companies. Thisis a pretty stupid solution to crap that occurred 25-50 years ago, though.

It's called risk assessment. Corporations do this all the time. They're supposed to absorb the hit and write it off. It's not the 1880s anymore and gunboat diplomacy no longer exists. The US military should stay out of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I posted this on the other thread...

Senator Murphy just said on IG that he got his first briefing on this and while he obvs can't share details, he said:

1. There was zero justification.

2. The briefing said there is no fentanyl coming from Venezuela, but that it's cocaine and it's going to Europe NOT to the US. Ergo, we are literally spending taxpayer money to fight drug crimes in Europe!

No we aren't. Don't be naive. This is about imperialism. We're demanding access to their oil and land which we somehow claim they took from us. Trump said as much in his post about the blockade.

Just a bit of history to inform you.

Venezuela started nationalizing its oil industry in the mid-1970s. ExxonMobil, Chevron, Texaco, Gulf, ConocoPhilips etc. all had major oil operations there. Those operations were appropriated by Venezuela piecemeal since then and the only US oil player who remains is Chevron. And Chevron does so through special licenses granted by the US Treasury, Department of Commerce and Venezuela. So, yes, Venezuela did take land and oil from US companies. Thisis a pretty stupid solution to crap that occurred 25-50 years ago, though.

It's called risk assessment. Corporations do this all the time. They're supposed to absorb the hit and write it off. It's not the 1880s anymore and gunboat diplomacy no longer exists. The US military should stay out of it.

I didn't suggest otherwise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I posted this on the other thread...

Senator Murphy just said on IG that he got his first briefing on this and while he obvs can't share details, he said:

1. There was zero justification.

2. The briefing said there is no fentanyl coming from Venezuela, but that it's cocaine and it's going to Europe NOT to the US. Ergo, we are literally spending taxpayer money to fight drug crimes in Europe!

No we aren't. Don't be naive. This is about imperialism. We're demanding access to their oil and land which we somehow claim they took from us. Trump said as much in his post about the blockade.

Just a bit of history to inform you.

Venezuela started nationalizing its oil industry in the mid-1970s. ExxonMobil, Chevron, Texaco, Gulf, ConocoPhilips etc. all had major oil operations there. Those operations were appropriated by Venezuela piecemeal since then and the only US oil player who remains is Chevron. And Chevron does so through special licenses granted by the US Treasury, Department of Commerce and Venezuela. So, yes, Venezuela did take land and oil from US companies. Thisis a pretty stupid solution to crap that occurred 25-50 years ago, though.

Wasn’t this settled in international courts through reparations?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I posted this on the other thread...

Senator Murphy just said on IG that he got his first briefing on this and while he obvs can't share details, he said:

1. There was zero justification.

2. The briefing said there is no fentanyl coming from Venezuela, but that it's cocaine and it's going to Europe NOT to the US. Ergo, we are literally spending taxpayer money to fight drug crimes in Europe!

And Murphy actually repeated that and believes that bs? Saving Europe?! Meanwhile that war that was going to end on Jan 21st?

So you think Trump fed him BS. Interesting. The felon is a liar who will say anything for political expediency.

Wake tf up lady. Have you forgotten your 2024 refrain “America First!” and “No new wars!” Yet, here you are lying and changing goalposts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I posted this on the other thread...

Senator Murphy just said on IG that he got his first briefing on this and while he obvs can't share details, he said:

1. There was zero justification.

2. The briefing said there is no fentanyl coming from Venezuela, but that it's cocaine and it's going to Europe NOT to the US. Ergo, we are literally spending taxpayer money to fight drug crimes in Europe!

No we aren't. Don't be naive. This is about imperialism. We're demanding access to their oil and land which we somehow claim they took from us. Trump said as much in his post about the blockade.

Just a bit of history to inform you.

Venezuela started nationalizing its oil industry in the mid-1970s. ExxonMobil, Chevron, Texaco, Gulf, ConocoPhilips etc. all had major oil operations there. Those operations were appropriated by Venezuela piecemeal since then and the only US oil player who remains is Chevron. And Chevron does so through special licenses granted by the US Treasury, Department of Commerce and Venezuela. So, yes, Venezuela did take land and oil from US companies. Thisis a pretty stupid solution to crap that occurred 25-50 years ago, though.

Wasn’t this settled in international courts through reparations?

Yes, Exxon has won a bunch of lawsuits against Venezuela and has been paid most of what it won. They are still some fights about a couple hundred million or so. Apparently American soldiers should be put in harms way for the sake of Exxon profits.

[Anonymous]

Don't also forget the Venezuela has rare earths. They probably also belong to the US.
/s

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I posted this on the other thread...

Senator Murphy just said on IG that he got his first briefing on this and while he obvs can't share details, he said:

1. There was zero justification.

2. The briefing said there is no fentanyl coming from Venezuela, but that it's cocaine and it's going to Europe NOT to the US. Ergo, we are literally spending taxpayer money to fight drug crimes in Europe!

No we aren't. Don't be naive. This is about imperialism. We're demanding access to their oil and land which we somehow claim they took from us. Trump said as much in his post about the blockade.

Just a bit of history to inform you.

Venezuela started nationalizing its oil industry in the mid-1970s. ExxonMobil, Chevron, Texaco, Gulf, ConocoPhilips etc. all had major oil operations there. Those operations were appropriated by Venezuela piecemeal since then and the only US oil player who remains is Chevron. And Chevron does so through special licenses granted by the US Treasury, Department of Commerce and Venezuela. So, yes, Venezuela did take land and oil from US companies. Thisis a pretty stupid solution to crap that occurred 25-50 years ago, though.

No. US companies(really international companies that have no allegiance to the US- Exxon, etc) held leases and concessions. These leases and concessions were gotten through corruption, installing company friendly politicians, etc. These oil companies ran Venezuela as a colony and made tons of money. Venezuela wanted control of production, taxation, etc.

Why shouldn’t Venezuela have control over its own resources?