ICE is merely enforcing laws passed by Congress and signed by our elected presidents

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:On the one hand, I am baffled how legal immigrants are expected to just stay here by virtue of getting in a while back and “having made a life here”.
On the other hand, ICE should be way smarter about removing them. No high profile cases like removing grandmas, no violence. Kick people out swiftly but quietly.

You know who did this: Obama.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is this a serious question? The “brownshirts” were also following orders from their elected leaders.

seriously- the bus drivers in Montgomery Alabama were also following the law as was the policeman who arrested Rosa Parks. All of those people were following the law.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the entire discussion calls for nuance, as a naturalized legal citizen, here’s my perspective.

People who have been residing in the U.S for 20+ years with no criminal record should have been offered a path to citizenship, to deport people who have lived here for 20-35 years is plain cruel. They could have asked them for 25% extra in taxes. Less than 20 years, deport because you have to agree to a number.

Now to be fair; As for ICE, law enforcement is a high strung, dangerous job. I think they are trying but sometimes people being deported also get very emotional and a charged situation is immediately created. Are there some legit bad guys in ICE? Yes, but majority are just doing a job. There’s just no easy way to go about the current orders that have been issued to them.

As with everything else, the goal wasn’t a rational, reasonable policy that could have been discussed as adults, this unnecessary misery was the point.

Also, this argument that “oh they broke the law when they came here illegally”, life isn’t black and white Infact 95% of the time it’s grey. If someone has been here for 20+ years and is a productive member of community then we should have shown compassion. Just my 2 cents.

Im not sure what to do about people who have been residing here undocumented or on temporary protected status who overstayed visas or who were undocumented.

But you need to consider there have been people who have been waiting over 20 years to legally migrate through family reunification. That is how long the waiting list is to sponsor certain types of relatives in order for them to legally migrate. Their family members are upset they played by the rules and people cut in front of them, many from their own countries.

Then once you say okay if you make it here 20 years you can stay, it encourages more undocumented migrants who then will wait 20 years to legally stay.

What absolutely would help would be for law enforcement to communicate with ice and not release people with convictions. ICE often goes to the last know address of a criminal alien then can legally ask for id’s from everyone in the apartment. So sometimes no one remotely related still lives there or it is a relative with no arrests or convictions then they get carted away.

I am 100% in favor of this common-sense measure. Why would anyone be opposed to this?

For the zillionth time, no one is opposed to deporting criminals.

[Anonymous]

A US citizen alleges he was improperly arrested and detained twice by immigration officers as they targeted Latino workers at Alabama construction sites, claims they initially rebuffed his offers to prove legal status -- new proposed class action in federal court

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-09-30/us-citizen-alleges-wrongful-arrests-in-dhs-immigration-sweeps?srnd=undefined

"but we were merely enforcing the laws"

Nope, you are profiling people, many of whom are natural born Americans, based on appareances.

[Anonymous]

What Congressional law is ICE following?

[Anonymous]

I love how the naturalized citizens are chiming in because if they were trying to get citizenship now they would be arrested and thrown into a detention center.

It's like a boomer telling a GenZ, "Well, I bought a house at 25 on a teacher's salary, why can't you?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What part of the law authorizes ICE to conceal their faces and identities and to refuse to identify themselves or show warrants?

What part of the law authorizes ICE to use force and violence against people who are not being violent or in any other way directly endangering them?

What part of the law allows ICE to disappear 1200 people and not provide any details about it to their family members, attorneys, press, members of Congress etc?

What part of the law allows ICE to circumvent all laws and regulations in rapidly building a prison camp in a swamp?

How are they "merely following the law" OP? I don't get it.

You clearly have almost no understanding of how laws work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What Congressional law is ICE following?

INA
https://cis.org/Arthur/Guide-Detention-and-Removal-Process-and-Due-Process

You think they are not allowed to deport people?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the entire discussion calls for nuance, as a naturalized legal citizen, here’s my perspective.

People who have been residing in the U.S for 20+ years with no criminal record should have been offered a path to citizenship, to deport people who have lived here for 20-35 years is plain cruel. They could have asked them for 25% extra in taxes. Less than 20 years, deport because you have to agree to a number.

Now to be fair; As for ICE, law enforcement is a high strung, dangerous job. I think they are trying but sometimes people being deported also get very emotional and a charged situation is immediately created. Are there some legit bad guys in ICE? Yes, but majority are just doing a job. There’s just no easy way to go about the current orders that have been issued to them.

As with everything else, the goal wasn’t a rational, reasonable policy that could have been discussed as adults, this unnecessary misery was the point.

Also, this argument that “oh they broke the law when they came here illegally”, life isn’t black and white Infact 95% of the time it’s grey. If someone has been here for 20+ years and is a productive member of community then we should have shown compassion. Just my 2 cents.

Im not sure what to do about people who have been residing here undocumented or on temporary protected status who overstayed visas or who were undocumented.

But you need to consider there have been people who have been waiting over 20 years to legally migrate through family reunification. That is how long the waiting list is to sponsor certain types of relatives in order for them to legally migrate. Their family members are upset they played by the rules and people cut in front of them, many from their own countries.

Then once you say okay if you make it here 20 years you can stay, it encourages more undocumented migrants who then will wait 20 years to legally stay.

What absolutely would help would be for law enforcement to communicate with ice and not release people with convictions. ICE often goes to the last know address of a criminal alien then can legally ask for id’s from everyone in the apartment. So sometimes no one remotely related still lives there or it is a relative with no arrests or convictions then they get carted away.

I am 100% in favor of this common-sense measure. Why would anyone be opposed to this?

For the zillionth time, no one is opposed to deporting criminals.

All these sanctuary jurisdictions say otherwise.
They will not hold criminals in jail for ICE to pick up, and will not not notify ICE of their release.
They do this for FBI, DEA, Marshal Service, but not ICE.

[Anonymous]

This defense did not hold up in the Nuremberg Trials. Just saying. Following orders does not excuse illegal behavior.

[Anonymous]

Yeah well nazis we’re only “following orders” too

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What Congressional law is ICE following?

INA
https://cis.org/Arthur/Guide-Detention-and-Removal-Process-and-Due-Process

You think they are not allowed to deport people?

they are not allowed to apprehend or detain US citizens. Let's start with that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the entire discussion calls for nuance, as a naturalized legal citizen, here’s my perspective.

People who have been residing in the U.S for 20+ years with no criminal record should have been offered a path to citizenship, to deport people who have lived here for 20-35 years is plain cruel. They could have asked them for 25% extra in taxes. Less than 20 years, deport because you have to agree to a number.

Now to be fair; As for ICE, law enforcement is a high strung, dangerous job. I think they are trying but sometimes people being deported also get very emotional and a charged situation is immediately created. Are there some legit bad guys in ICE? Yes, but majority are just doing a job. There’s just no easy way to go about the current orders that have been issued to them.

As with everything else, the goal wasn’t a rational, reasonable policy that could have been discussed as adults, this unnecessary misery was the point.

Also, this argument that “oh they broke the law when they came here illegally”, life isn’t black and white Infact 95% of the time it’s grey. If someone has been here for 20+ years and is a productive member of community then we should have shown compassion. Just my 2 cents.

Im not sure what to do about people who have been residing here undocumented or on temporary protected status who overstayed visas or who were undocumented.

But you need to consider there have been people who have been waiting over 20 years to legally migrate through family reunification. That is how long the waiting list is to sponsor certain types of relatives in order for them to legally migrate. Their family members are upset they played by the rules and people cut in front of them, many from their own countries.

Then once you say okay if you make it here 20 years you can stay, it encourages more undocumented migrants who then will wait 20 years to legally stay.

What absolutely would help would be for law enforcement to communicate with ice and not release people with convictions. ICE often goes to the last know address of a criminal alien then can legally ask for id’s from everyone in the apartment. So sometimes no one remotely related still lives there or it is a relative with no arrests or convictions then they get carted away.

I am 100% in favor of this common-sense measure. Why would anyone be opposed to this?

For the zillionth time, no one is opposed to deporting criminals.

All these sanctuary jurisdictions say otherwise.
They will not hold criminals in jail for ICE to pick up, and will not not notify ICE of their release.
They do this for FBI, DEA, Marshal Service, but not ICE.

IOW citizes will not do the work of ICE. ICE should do its own work. If ICE were compensating cities for doing its work, then we wouldn't be here, but since ICE isn't authorized to do that and the Congress wouldn't authorize it, you all scapegoat the cities. We already subsidize the red states enough without this nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why so much hate towards federal workers who are simply doing their jobs?

I understand the emotional sympathy when a day-laborer gets detained and sent back to Central America, but the law is clear: one must follow legal pathways to work lawfully in the USA.

How does the hate, targeting ICE, make any sense?

The violations of due process
The racial profiling
The warrantless entries
The warrantless arrests
Enforcing immigration laws based on protected speech
Not displaying a badge or identifying themselves

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why so much hate towards federal workers who are simply doing their jobs?

I understand the emotional sympathy when a day-laborer gets detained and sent back to Central America, but the law is clear: one must follow legal pathways to work lawfully in the USA.

How does the hate, targeting ICE, make any sense?

The violations of due process
The racial profiling
The warrantless entries
The warrantless arrests
Enforcing immigration laws based on protected speech
Not displaying a badge or identifying themselves

+1

Also the needless violence.

The lack of any discretion/judgement (like arresting people who in court to testify as the victim of crime, or arresting people who show up to take a citizenship test or interview for a green card, or arresting the guy who has been here 25 years and has a job and family but ignoring the criminals)