Is dating just a means to an end for 50+ men?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Married man over 50 here:

While I’m not dating and not in the market, I’ve talked about what I would do if (god forbid) something happened to DW.

First of all, there’s no second marriage. Period. I want to hang out and have fun, which includes sex. If you don’t want those things or you do want to get married, I’m not for you.

Also, a PP is right. Where women had the advantage in their late teens and 20’s, that dynamic slowly shifts in the opposite direction over time and age. While the other PP who says older women are juggling 5 men on the apps may be right about some, I know that’s not universally true.

The endgame isn’t necessarily sex on the first date, but men in their 50’s have greater agency in their choices.

I’m a 48 y.o. woman, have been on a dating app for about 10 days. After removing the age requirements, I received a lot of likes from the young guys, as young as 19! Today I’m going out with a very athletic and enthusiastic 29 y.o. man, an engineer. Who cares about men in their 50s if they can date someone young.

If that’s what you’re looking for, go for it.

She’s saying if a woman is okay with casual relationships, she can day waaaay younger than 55 yo men. I am 47, and have a 29 yo suitor who is spoiling me with restaurants and dates anytime his long term 25 yo GF is out of town. We are seeing each other for almost 3 years for romantic dates and sex. I don’t need to look for 50s dudes on the app for sex.

I am on the apps though but date menu age for marriage and ltr only

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fire the dating coach immediately. Men of ALL ages would love it if they could have sex on the first date. That is irrelevant to her.

She needs to screen men's profiles and their app chats to rule out the ones who are not exclusively looking for a LTR. No point in responding to a man who includes anything but LTR in his profile. ANY mention of anything sexual rules out a man. Same for any of his comments before they've met in real life. She needs to avoid going dancing as a first date. That's not an environment where you can hear one another talking. It's purely a way to assess whether you feel like sleeping together.

Under no condition should she sleep with someone without testing and exclusivity, for her own safety. Getting herpes from a ONS at her age will seriously screw up her dating prospects.

Make all first dates 15-minute coffee dates and have something else scheduled right after, so you can run if it's terrible, and schedule them in a place convenient for you. The ones who are looking for only an ONS will obviously decline. You can get a much better connection on a coffee date than on apps or texts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m happily (re)married so I haven’t dated in well over a decade, but my cousin is newly divorced and very confounded by feedback she’s gotten as she ventures “out there”.

She’s an attractive 50 year old who looks younger, is fit, and dresses fashionably without being ridiculous. She’s well-educated, well-travelled, and successful in her career. She has pretty standard hobbies and interests.

She has one adult child in the military who hasn’t lived at home since he left for boot camp five years ago. And one very chill medium sized dog.

There’s no drama with her ex. He was wanted to live in his native country after their son left the nest. She did not. The pandemic kept them apart for over a year. After trying to revive things long distance for a few years, they amicably separated. She never bad mouths him. He doesn’t pay alimony or anything.

She expects to split the expenses of dating.

I say all this to explain that I am also confused by the feedback she is getting from both dates and a dating coach. She’s being told that the getting to know you activities on dates don’t matter to men over 50. They prefer first date sex and if it’s a good experience, they’ll invest time in a second date.

If this is true, it seems like a considerable acceleration from the third date norm when I was last dating. I asked DH about his few single friends’ expectations. He said expecting and getting are two different things and most of them are smart enough to not write off a good woman simply because she didn’t sleep with them on the first date. My single brother said that the dynamics are weird where he lives because older single men considerably outnumber older single women.

If you are dating, is it really like that?

Look a small number men on dating apps get like 80% of the matches(or whatever for different sites). These man have endless choices but they only represent like 5% of the men on the site. You can do the numbers- single man, 50ish years old(27% of men 50-60), not over weight(30%), over 6’(14%), makes $100k(16%) and college educated(44%). Now add in 50ish men who want to date someone under 45 and the dating apps pushing the more popular men.

The number go something like this 5% of men on dating apps gets 65% of all the matches, 25% get 80% and 60% of men get no matches. So the top men do great and have an endless options. The rest will be lucky to get one match. The most desirable men are in high demand and the competition is fierce.

I do not think men in the 50’s are pushing for sex on the first date but if it is a lukewarm date they have other options. This applies to the top 10%. The others men are desperate but are not selected. Dating apps, etc are not a great experience for either women or men.

I think you can remove the over-6-foot requirement for most women and expand the dating pool by a lot. The average height for a woman is 5'6, so anyone over 5'7 is fine for the majority of women. Also, women dating 50+ men are rarely looking to procreate, so genetic factors like height don't matter.

Oops. The average height for a woman is 5'4. I don't think there's much, if any, premium for height in the 50-plus category.

6' 2" man here. There is a premium. Even women in their 50s demand it! I have had many pre-date texts where women suspiciously try to find out if I'm lying about my height.

Sorry, manlets, your life does not get better with age.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Married man over 50 here:

While I’m not dating and not in the market, I’ve talked about what I would do if (god forbid) something happened to DW.

First of all, there’s no second marriage. Period. I want to hang out and have fun, which includes sex. If you don’t want those things or you do want to get married, I’m not for you.

Also, a PP is right. Where women had the advantage in their late teens and 20’s, that dynamic slowly shifts in the opposite direction over time and age. While the other PP who says older women are juggling 5 men on the apps may be right about some, I know that’s not universally true.

The endgame isn’t necessarily sex on the first date, but men in their 50’s have greater agency in their choices.

I’m a 48 y.o. woman, have been on a dating app for about 10 days. After removing the age requirements, I received a lot of likes from the young guys, as young as 19! Today I’m going out with a very athletic and enthusiastic 29 y.o. man, an engineer. Who cares about men in their 50s if they can date someone young.

Enjoy being pumped and dumped.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Married man over 50 here:

While I’m not dating and not in the market, I’ve talked about what I would do if (god forbid) something happened to DW.

First of all, there’s no second marriage. Period. I want to hang out and have fun, which includes sex. If you don’t want those things or you do want to get married, I’m not for you.

Also, a PP is right. Where women had the advantage in their late teens and 20’s, that dynamic slowly shifts in the opposite direction over time and age. While the other PP who says older women are juggling 5 men on the apps may be right about some, I know that’s not universally true.

The endgame isn’t necessarily sex on the first date, but men in their 50’s have greater agency in their choices.

I’m a 48 y.o. woman, have been on a dating app for about 10 days. After removing the age requirements, I received a lot of likes from the young guys, as young as 19! Today I’m going out with a very athletic and enthusiastic 29 y.o. man, an engineer. Who cares about men in their 50s if they can date someone young.

Enjoy being pumped and dumped.

It appears though that financially sound divorced men over 50 are also just looking for sex. So it’s better to be pumped and dumped by younger men - no point for a woman to date older

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Married man over 50 here:

While I’m not dating and not in the market, I’ve talked about what I would do if (god forbid) something happened to DW.

First of all, there’s no second marriage. Period. I want to hang out and have fun, which includes sex. If you don’t want those things or you do want to get married, I’m not for you.

Also, a PP is right. Where women had the advantage in their late teens and 20’s, that dynamic slowly shifts in the opposite direction over time and age. While the other PP who says older women are juggling 5 men on the apps may be right about some, I know that’s not universally true.

The endgame isn’t necessarily sex on the first date, but men in their 50’s have greater agency in their choices.

I’m a 48 y.o. woman, have been on a dating app for about 10 days. After removing the age requirements, I received a lot of likes from the young guys, as young as 19! Today I’m going out with a very athletic and enthusiastic 29 y.o. man, an engineer. Who cares about men in their 50s if they can date someone young.

If that’s what you’re looking for, go for it.

She’s saying if a woman is okay with casual relationships, she can day waaaay younger than 55 yo men. I am 47, and have a 29 yo suitor who is spoiling me with restaurants and dates anytime his long term 25 yo GF is out of town. We are seeing each other for almost 3 years for romantic dates and sex. I don’t need to look for 50s dudes on the app for sex.

I am on the apps though but date menu age for marriage and ltr only

I’m the PP you’re responding to. If that’s what you want and you’re happy, so be it. But it doesn’t change what I said.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m happily (re)married so I haven’t dated in well over a decade, but my cousin is newly divorced and very confounded by feedback she’s gotten as she ventures “out there”.

She’s an attractive 50 year old who looks younger, is fit, and dresses fashionably without being ridiculous. She’s well-educated, well-travelled, and successful in her career. She has pretty standard hobbies and interests.

She has one adult child in the military who hasn’t lived at home since he left for boot camp five years ago. And one very chill medium sized dog.

There’s no drama with her ex. He was wanted to live in his native country after their son left the nest. She did not. The pandemic kept them apart for over a year. After trying to revive things long distance for a few years, they amicably separated. She never bad mouths him. He doesn’t pay alimony or anything.

She expects to split the expenses of dating.

I say all this to explain that I am also confused by the feedback she is getting from both dates and a dating coach. She’s being told that the getting to know you activities on dates don’t matter to men over 50. They prefer first date sex and if it’s a good experience, they’ll invest time in a second date.

If this is true, it seems like a considerable acceleration from the third date norm when I was last dating. I asked DH about his few single friends’ expectations. He said expecting and getting are two different things and most of them are smart enough to not write off a good woman simply because she didn’t sleep with them on the first date. My single brother said that the dynamics are weird where he lives because older single men considerably outnumber older single women.

If you are dating, is it really like that?

Look a small number men on dating apps get like 80% of the matches(or whatever for different sites). These man have endless choices but they only represent like 5% of the men on the site. You can do the numbers- single man, 50ish years old(27% of men 50-60), not over weight(30%), over 6’(14%), makes $100k(16%) and college educated(44%). Now add in 50ish men who want to date someone under 45 and the dating apps pushing the more popular men.

The number go something like this 5% of men on dating apps gets 65% of all the matches, 25% get 80% and 60% of men get no matches. So the top men do great and have an endless options. The rest will be lucky to get one match. The most desirable men are in high demand and the competition is fierce.

I do not think men in the 50’s are pushing for sex on the first date but if it is a lukewarm date they have other options. This applies to the top 10%. The others men are desperate but are not selected. Dating apps, etc are not a great experience for either women or men.

I think you can remove the over-6-foot requirement for most women and expand the dating pool by a lot. The average height for a woman is 5'6, so anyone over 5'7 is fine for the majority of women. Also, women dating 50+ men are rarely looking to procreate, so genetic factors like height don't matter.

Oops. The average height for a woman is 5'4. I don't think there's much, if any, premium for height in the 50-plus category.

6' 2" man here. There is a premium. Even women in their 50s demand it! I have had many pre-date texts where women suspiciously try to find out if I'm lying about my height.

Sorry, manlets, your life does not get better with age.

You are dating a self-selecting group of women because you publish your height on your profile. I have never cared about a man's height, other than I never dated anyone shorter than me, though I have friends who dated and married shorter. It doesn't matter to most of us, especially as we age and understand what matters in relationships.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Married man over 50 here:

While I’m not dating and not in the market, I’ve talked about what I would do if (god forbid) something happened to DW.

First of all, there’s no second marriage. Period. I want to hang out and have fun, which includes sex. If you don’t want those things or you do want to get married, I’m not for you.

Also, a PP is right. Where women had the advantage in their late teens and 20’s, that dynamic slowly shifts in the opposite direction over time and age. While the other PP who says older women are juggling 5 men on the apps may be right about some, I know that’s not universally true.

The endgame isn’t necessarily sex on the first date, but men in their 50’s have greater agency in their choices.

I’m a 48 y.o. woman, have been on a dating app for about 10 days. After removing the age requirements, I received a lot of likes from the young guys, as young as 19! Today I’m going out with a very athletic and enthusiastic 29 y.o. man, an engineer. Who cares about men in their 50s if they can date someone young.

If that’s what you’re looking for, go for it.

She’s saying if a woman is okay with casual relationships, she can day waaaay younger than 55 yo men. I am 47, and have a 29 yo suitor who is spoiling me with restaurants and dates anytime his long term 25 yo GF is out of town. We are seeing each other for almost 3 years for romantic dates and sex. I don’t need to look for 50s dudes on the app for sex.

I am on the apps though but date menu age for marriage and ltr only

I’m the PP you’re responding to. If that’s what you want and you’re happy, so be it. But it doesn’t change what I said.

What’s from my post contradicts yours? If I was looking for casual I would only date younger men. Younger bodies no performance issues > than an “executive” 55 yo man with 3 kids who also doesn’t have money for dates and only looks for casual sex on first date.

[Anonymous]

I did online dating off and on between 2015 and 2020 in my forties, so my experience is a bit dated. (I am in a relationship now.)

My experience is that men started pushing for sex for what is for me really soon - like date two. I don't adhere here to the "third date" rule - I think that's some myth men put on there to make women feel they need to put out quickly. That's not enough time for me, both for emotional reasons and for physical health reasons. I regularly wait till dates 8 to 10 or so. I do other stuff before then, but PIV or oral, no. I'm not risking getting an STD from some dude I met online who is probably dating others. I wait till we have a convo about exclusivity and until he gets and shows me STD tests and takes down his online dating profiles.

I managed to enter into three exclusive relationships with potential during that time period using those standards. I also had a few guys lose interest after three or four dates of no sex, but I figure they probably weren't that into me anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Married man over 50 here:

While I’m not dating and not in the market, I’ve talked about what I would do if (god forbid) something happened to DW.

First of all, there’s no second marriage. Period. I want to hang out and have fun, which includes sex. If you don’t want those things or you do want to get married, I’m not for you.

Also, a PP is right. Where women had the advantage in their late teens and 20’s, that dynamic slowly shifts in the opposite direction over time and age. While the other PP who says older women are juggling 5 men on the apps may be right about some, I know that’s not universally true.

The endgame isn’t necessarily sex on the first date, but men in their 50’s have greater agency in their choices.

I’m a 48 y.o. woman, have been on a dating app for about 10 days. After removing the age requirements, I received a lot of likes from the young guys, as young as 19! Today I’m going out with a very athletic and enthusiastic 29 y.o. man, an engineer. Who cares about men in their 50s if they can date someone young.

If that’s what you’re looking for, go for it.

She’s saying if a woman is okay with casual relationships, she can day waaaay younger than 55 yo men. I am 47, and have a 29 yo suitor who is spoiling me with restaurants and dates anytime his long term 25 yo GF is out of town. We are seeing each other for almost 3 years for romantic dates and sex. I don’t need to look for 50s dudes on the app for sex.

I am on the apps though but date menu age for marriage and ltr only

I’m the PP you’re responding to. If that’s what you want and you’re happy, so be it. But it doesn’t change what I said.

What’s from my post contradicts yours? If I was looking for casual I would only date younger men. Younger bodies no performance issues > than an “executive” 55 yo man with 3 kids who also doesn’t have money for dates and only looks for casual sex on first date.

This summarizes the general dating landscape for an attractive 40-50-something woman perfectly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Married man over 50 here:

While I’m not dating and not in the market, I’ve talked about what I would do if (god forbid) something happened to DW.

First of all, there’s no second marriage. Period. I want to hang out and have fun, which includes sex. If you don’t want those things or you do want to get married, I’m not for you.

Also, a PP is right. Where women had the advantage in their late teens and 20’s, that dynamic slowly shifts in the opposite direction over time and age. While the other PP who says older women are juggling 5 men on the apps may be right about some, I know that’s not universally true.

The endgame isn’t necessarily sex on the first date, but men in their 50’s have greater agency in their choices.

I’m a 48 y.o. woman, have been on a dating app for about 10 days. After removing the age requirements, I received a lot of likes from the young guys, as young as 19! Today I’m going out with a very athletic and enthusiastic 29 y.o. man, an engineer. Who cares about men in their 50s if they can date someone young.

Enjoy being pumped and dumped.

Mmmmm I love being pumped and dumped. Hottest has been a MUCH younger guy who stays hard all night long, we’ll go at it 3-4 times overnight and again the next morning. Then he leaves and I don’t have to make him breakfast or do his laundry. Love it.

The world really is your oyster once you’re a middle aged woman. Zero need to get married or have kids, so you can finally sleep with the men you’ve always wanted to but couldn’t. You’re confident in your body and sexuality, so you can ask for exactly what you want and who cares what he thinks. Younger men have so much more stamina, not like a 50 yo man who can barely get it up and is good for only one round (and younger guys LOVE when you teach them how to actually please a woman, versus older men who tend to be stuck in their ways and can’t adapt).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Married man over 50 here:

While I’m not dating and not in the market, I’ve talked about what I would do if (god forbid) something happened to DW.

First of all, there’s no second marriage. Period. I want to hang out and have fun, which includes sex. If you don’t want those things or you do want to get married, I’m not for you.

Also, a PP is right. Where women had the advantage in their late teens and 20’s, that dynamic slowly shifts in the opposite direction over time and age. While the other PP who says older women are juggling 5 men on the apps may be right about some, I know that’s not universally true.

The endgame isn’t necessarily sex on the first date, but men in their 50’s have greater agency in their choices.

I’m a 48 y.o. woman, have been on a dating app for about 10 days. After removing the age requirements, I received a lot of likes from the young guys, as young as 19! Today I’m going out with a very athletic and enthusiastic 29 y.o. man, an engineer. Who cares about men in their 50s if they can date someone young.

Enjoy being pumped and dumped.

It appears though that financially sound divorced men over 50 are also just looking for sex. So it’s better to be pumped and dumped by younger men - no point for a woman to date older

It is vastly more likely that an over 50 man is looking for a LTR with an over 50 woman than that a 19-29 year old man is looking for an LTR with an over 50 woman.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m happily (re)married so I haven’t dated in well over a decade, but my cousin is newly divorced and very confounded by feedback she’s gotten as she ventures “out there”.

She’s an attractive 50 year old who looks younger, is fit, and dresses fashionably without being ridiculous. She’s well-educated, well-travelled, and successful in her career. She has pretty standard hobbies and interests.

She has one adult child in the military who hasn’t lived at home since he left for boot camp five years ago. And one very chill medium sized dog.

There’s no drama with her ex. He was wanted to live in his native country after their son left the nest. She did not. The pandemic kept them apart for over a year. After trying to revive things long distance for a few years, they amicably separated. She never bad mouths him. He doesn’t pay alimony or anything.

She expects to split the expenses of dating.

I say all this to explain that I am also confused by the feedback she is getting from both dates and a dating coach. She’s being told that the getting to know you activities on dates don’t matter to men over 50. They prefer first date sex and if it’s a good experience, they’ll invest time in a second date.

If this is true, it seems like a considerable acceleration from the third date norm when I was last dating. I asked DH about his few single friends’ expectations. He said expecting and getting are two different things and most of them are smart enough to not write off a good woman simply because she didn’t sleep with them on the first date. My single brother said that the dynamics are weird where he lives because older single men considerably outnumber older single women.

If you are dating, is it really like that?

Look a small number men on dating apps get like 80% of the matches(or whatever for different sites). These man have endless choices but they only represent like 5% of the men on the site. You can do the numbers- single man, 50ish years old(27% of men 50-60), not over weight(30%), over 6’(14%), makes $100k(16%) and college educated(44%). Now add in 50ish men who want to date someone under 45 and the dating apps pushing the more popular men.

The number go something like this 5% of men on dating apps gets 65% of all the matches, 25% get 80% and 60% of men get no matches. So the top men do great and have an endless options. The rest will be lucky to get one match. The most desirable men are in high demand and the competition is fierce.

I do not think men in the 50’s are pushing for sex on the first date but if it is a lukewarm date they have other options. This applies to the top 10%. The others men are desperate but are not selected. Dating apps, etc are not a great experience for either women or men.

I think you can remove the over-6-foot requirement for most women and expand the dating pool by a lot. The average height for a woman is 5'6, so anyone over 5'7 is fine for the majority of women. Also, women dating 50+ men are rarely looking to procreate, so genetic factors like height don't matter.

Oops. The average height for a woman is 5'4. I don't think there's much, if any, premium for height in the 50-plus category.

6' 2" man here. There is a premium. Even women in their 50s demand it! I have had many pre-date texts where women suspiciously try to find out if I'm lying about my height.

Sorry, manlets, your life does not get better with age.

You are dating a self-selecting group of women because you publish your height on your profile. I have never cared about a man's height, other than I never dated anyone shorter than me, though I have friends who dated and married shorter. It doesn't matter to most of us, especially as we age and understand what matters in relationships.

Many women over 50 directly state that they want an over 6' man. It matters a lot to a lot of you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Married man over 50 here:

While I’m not dating and not in the market, I’ve talked about what I would do if (god forbid) something happened to DW.

First of all, there’s no second marriage. Period. I want to hang out and have fun, which includes sex. If you don’t want those things or you do want to get married, I’m not for you.

Also, a PP is right. Where women had the advantage in their late teens and 20’s, that dynamic slowly shifts in the opposite direction over time and age. While the other PP who says older women are juggling 5 men on the apps may be right about some, I know that’s not universally true.

The endgame isn’t necessarily sex on the first date, but men in their 50’s have greater agency in their choices.

I’m a 48 y.o. woman, have been on a dating app for about 10 days. After removing the age requirements, I received a lot of likes from the young guys, as young as 19! Today I’m going out with a very athletic and enthusiastic 29 y.o. man, an engineer. Who cares about men in their 50s if they can date someone young.

Enjoy being pumped and dumped.

It appears though that financially sound divorced men over 50 are also just looking for sex. So it’s better to be pumped and dumped by younger men - no point for a woman to date older

It is vastly more likely that an over 50 man is looking for a LTR with an over 50 woman than that a 19-29 year old man is looking for an LTR with an over 50 woman.

Obviously, I date men my age or slightly older for LTR/marriage. But if a senior citizen male tells me he’ll never remarry, I’m out in a a few seconds !

I was just responding to the dude above who said he only looked for casual. He needs to get used to pay for younger sugar babies for that, of dare not so attractive/fat 50+ women. Good looking women have a string of younger lovers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Married man over 50 here:

While I’m not dating and not in the market, I’ve talked about what I would do if (god forbid) something happened to DW.

First of all, there’s no second marriage. Period. I want to hang out and have fun, which includes sex. If you don’t want those things or you do want to get married, I’m not for you.

Also, a PP is right. Where women had the advantage in their late teens and 20’s, that dynamic slowly shifts in the opposite direction over time and age. While the other PP who says older women are juggling 5 men on the apps may be right about some, I know that’s not universally true.

The endgame isn’t necessarily sex on the first date, but men in their 50’s have greater agency in their choices.

I’m a 48 y.o. woman, have been on a dating app for about 10 days. After removing the age requirements, I received a lot of likes from the young guys, as young as 19! Today I’m going out with a very athletic and enthusiastic 29 y.o. man, an engineer. Who cares about men in their 50s if they can date someone young.

Enjoy being pumped and dumped.

It appears though that financially sound divorced men over 50 are also just looking for sex. So it’s better to be pumped and dumped by younger men - no point for a woman to date older

It is vastly more likely that an over 50 man is looking for a LTR with an over 50 woman than that a 19-29 year old man is looking for an LTR with an over 50 woman.

Obviously, I date men my age or slightly older for LTR/marriage. But if a senior citizen male tells me he’ll never remarry, I’m out in a a few seconds !

I was just responding to the dude above who said he only looked for casual. He needs to get used to pay for younger sugar babies for that, of dare not so attractive/fat 50+ women. Good looking women have a string of younger lovers

Would you even want a relationship with a senior citizen male? You could still enjoy their company without legal and family entanglements if you liked them. The risk of them getting sick and needing caretaking, or having complicated families or finances, is probably too great for marriage to make sense.