Why do Rs hate the LGBTQ community?

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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why they are doing everything they can to make them invisible and strip them of rights. Help me understand. Don’t give me Bible BS. There are plenty of other things in the Bible we don’t permit like polygamy.

Because a) they believe being LBGTQ is a choice on some level b) they’re afraid of their kids being LGBTQ and so they want all references removed out of fear their child will be “convinced.”

And it’s their right to believe that. So leave other parents alone. Raise your kids the way you want but you don’t get to force your beliefs on other people’s kids at taxpayer funded schools without an opt out.

Key word there— belief.

One day someone will sue their school district because they smoke and the health teacher dared to say smoking causes cancer and little Larla is traumatized and went home crying begging for her parents to stop smoking. And they don’t believe smoking always causes cancer because they go to the gym and feel just fine and nana and George Burns smoked and lived until 100.

No. Religions don't take much of a stance on smoking or the origins of cancer. Culturally, smoking has been more or less common worldwide. It's not the same. I know OP doesnt want to talk about religion. But it's impossible not to, when religion has shaped our culture for thousands of years.

Religion has shaped our country for the worse. Christians have caused untold amounts of suffering throughout the entire existence of the religion. Religion is at the root of every societal injustice in out history. From slavery to genocide of the indigenous populations to woman’s suffrage there were the christian’s trying to stand in the way. Just leave us alone already.

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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why they are doing everything they can to make them invisible and strip them of rights. Help me understand. Don’t give me Bible BS. There are plenty of other things in the Bible we don’t permit like polygamy.

Because a) they believe being LBGTQ is a choice on some level b) they’re afraid of their kids being LGBTQ and so they want all references removed out of fear their child will be “convinced.”

And it’s their right to believe that. So leave other parents alone. Raise your kids the way you want but you don’t get to force your beliefs on other people’s kids at taxpayer funded schools without an opt out.

Key word there— belief.

One day someone will sue their school district because they smoke and the health teacher dared to say smoking causes cancer and little Larla is traumatized and went home crying begging for her parents to stop smoking. And they don’t believe smoking always causes cancer because they go to the gym and feel just fine and nana and George Burns smoked and lived until 100.

No. Religions don't take much of a stance on smoking or the origins of cancer. Culturally, smoking has been more or less common worldwide. It's not the same. I know OP doesnt want to talk about religion. But it's impossible not to, when religion has shaped our culture for thousands of years.

Religion has shaped our country for the worse. Christians have caused untold amounts of suffering throughout the entire existence of the religion. Religion is at the root of every societal injustice in out history. From slavery to genocide of the indigenous populations to woman’s suffrage there were the christian’s trying to stand in the way. Just leave us alone already.

The plaintiffs are Muslim.

What a tired argument.

67 million dead from atheist Stalin.
40 million from Mao Zedung.
3 million Pol Pot.

Those are just some examples. Mankind is cruel. That’s not a religious thing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why they are doing everything they can to make them invisible and strip them of rights. Help me understand. Don’t give me Bible BS. There are plenty of other things in the Bible we don’t permit like polygamy.

Because a) they believe being LBGTQ is a choice on some level b) they’re afraid of their kids being LGBTQ and so they want all references removed out of fear their child will be “convinced.”

And it’s their right to believe that. So leave other parents alone. Raise your kids the way you want but you don’t get to force your beliefs on other people’s kids at taxpayer funded schools without an opt out.

Key word there— belief.

One day someone will sue their school district because they smoke and the health teacher dared to say smoking causes cancer and little Larla is traumatized and went home crying begging for her parents to stop smoking. And they don’t believe smoking always causes cancer because they go to the gym and feel just fine and nana and George Burns smoked and lived until 100.

No. Religions don't take much of a stance on smoking or the origins of cancer. Culturally, smoking has been more or less common worldwide. It's not the same. I know OP doesnt want to talk about religion. But it's impossible not to, when religion has shaped our culture for thousands of years.

Religion has shaped our country for the worse. Christians have caused untold amounts of suffering throughout the entire existence of the religion. Religion is at the root of every societal injustice in out history. From slavery to genocide of the indigenous populations to woman’s suffrage there were the christian’s trying to stand in the way. Just leave us alone already.

I wouldn't want my children taught lgbtq+ indoctrination either. And it has nothing to do with religion.

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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why they are doing everything they can to make them invisible and strip them of rights. Help me understand. Don’t give me Bible BS. There are plenty of other things in the Bible we don’t permit like polygamy.

Because a) they believe being LBGTQ is a choice on some level b) they’re afraid of their kids being LGBTQ and so they want all references removed out of fear their child will be “convinced.”

And it’s their right to believe that. So leave other parents alone. Raise your kids the way you want but you don’t get to force your beliefs on other people’s kids at taxpayer funded schools without an opt out.

Key word there— belief.

One day someone will sue their school district because they smoke and the health teacher dared to say smoking causes cancer and little Larla is traumatized and went home crying begging for her parents to stop smoking. And they don’t believe smoking always causes cancer because they go to the gym and feel just fine and nana and George Burns smoked and lived until 100.

No. Religions don't take much of a stance on smoking or the origins of cancer. Culturally, smoking has been more or less common worldwide. It's not the same. I know OP doesnt want to talk about religion. But it's impossible not to, when religion has shaped our culture for thousands of years.

Religion has shaped our country for the worse. Christians have caused untold amounts of suffering throughout the entire existence of the religion. Religion is at the root of every societal injustice in out history. From slavery to genocide of the indigenous populations to woman’s suffrage there were the christian’s trying to stand in the way. Just leave us alone already.

OP posted on the day parents were asking to be left alone. Spare us. All Maryland had to do was tell these parents they could opt out and it never would have needed to go to scotus. Your rights end where another parent’s rights begin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I want to tell parents they can’t opt out because it is a nightmare to manage this.

I want people to use common sense that books about gender dysphoria don’t need to be a part of the 2nd grade curriculum.

I don’t want this to be a slippery slope situation. What if I don’t want my kid to be read books about Muslims? (Again I really don’t care but this has big implications.)

The wild part is that educators across the country, even in very Democratic areas, are mostly using common sense by either avoiding books about gender dysphoria for young children in their curriculum or allowing opt outs to the parents who feel strongly. The district in Mahmoud v. Taylor showed a lot of hubris by letting this dispute go all the way to the Supreme Court.

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Anonymous wrote:I want to tell parents they can’t opt out because it is a nightmare to manage this.

I want people to use common sense that books about gender dysphoria don’t need to be a part of the 2nd grade curriculum.

I don’t want this to be a slippery slope situation. What if I don’t want my kid to be read books about Muslims? (Again I really don’t care but this has big implications.)

The wild part is that educators across the country, even in very Democratic areas, are mostly using common sense by either avoiding books about gender dysphoria for young children in their curriculum or allowing opt outs to the parents who feel strongly. The district in Mahmoud v. Taylor showed a lot of hubris by letting this dispute go all the way to the Supreme Court.

And what about the fourth circuit? That they found for Maryland is crazy.

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The wild part is that educators across the country, even in very Democratic areas, are mostly using common sense by either avoiding books about gender dysphoria for young children in their curriculum or allowing opt outs to the parents who feel strongly. The district in Mahmoud v. Taylor showed a lot of hubris by letting this dispute go all the way to the Supreme

This! These School Boards are lacking in common sense. See Loudoun County.

[Anonymous]

Can I be real here?

I am a democrat, btw.

I have a gay son who has known he was gay since he was 11, and he never had any doubt. He’s gay.

My daughter was straight, went to college and met many, many people who are LGBTQ, especially bi. Also became immersed in lots of bisexual pop culture. She came out as bi, and even had a relationship with a girl for awhile. She is now in a relationship with a guy and no longer considers herself bi. This has been the same with several of her friends.

So, what I’m saying is that it is not a choice to be gay. But also, in many circles, it is definitely trendy right now to identify as LGBTQ so kids are convincing themselves of it. But also, college-aged kids experimenting with their sexuality is nothing new. They are just more open about it now.

Also, the more they see adults clutch their pearls about it, the more intrigued they become with it.

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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why they are doing everything they can to make them invisible and strip them of rights. Help me understand. Don’t give me Bible BS. There are plenty of other things in the Bible we don’t permit like polygamy.

Because a) they believe being LBGTQ is a choice on some level b) they’re afraid of their kids being LGBTQ and so they want all references removed out of fear their child will be “convinced.”

People have a right to shape the moral thinking of their children.

It’s not a morality issue though.

In what world is it not?! Get real.

Morality implies choice. Being gay is not a choice.

There is no proof of a genetic trait determining homosexuality and that isn’t the point anyway. These lessons weren’t about “gays exist.” That argument was obliterated in the majority opinion so go read it. It was about promotion. It was about the trans issue as well including the idea that you have an internal soul that can conflict with your body and that is NOT science.

Is having a soul scientifically proven?

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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why they are doing everything they can to make them invisible and strip them of rights. Help me understand. Don’t give me Bible BS. There are plenty of other things in the Bible we don’t permit like polygamy.

Because a) they believe being LBGTQ is a choice on some level b) they’re afraid of their kids being LGBTQ and so they want all references removed out of fear their child will be “convinced.”

People have a right to shape the moral thinking of their children.

It’s not a morality issue though.

In what world is it not?! Get real.

Morality implies choice. Being gay is not a choice.

There is no proof of a genetic trait determining homosexuality and that isn’t the point anyway. These lessons weren’t about “gays exist.” That argument was obliterated in the majority opinion so go read it. It was about promotion. It was about the trans issue as well including the idea that you have an internal soul that can conflict with your body and that is NOT science.

Is having a soul scientifically proven?

Nope! So let’s leave that for the parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can I be real here?

I am a democrat, btw.

I have a gay son who has known he was gay since he was 11, and he never had any doubt. He’s gay.

My daughter was straight, went to college and met many, many people who are LGBTQ, especially bi. Also became immersed in lots of bisexual pop culture. She came out as bi, and even had a relationship with a girl for awhile. She is now in a relationship with a guy and no longer considers herself bi. This has been the same with several of her friends.

So, what I’m saying is that it is not a choice to be gay. But also, in many circles, it is definitely trendy right now to identify as LGBTQ so kids are convincing themselves of it. But also, college-aged kids experimenting with their sexuality is nothing new. They are just more open about it now.

Also, the more they see adults clutch their pearls about it, the more intrigued they become with it.

If you wanted to be real, you'd acknowledge that this discussion is about young children not college students or adults.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can I be real here?

I am a democrat, btw.

I have a gay son who has known he was gay since he was 11, and he never had any doubt. He’s gay.

My daughter was straight, went to college and met many, many people who are LGBTQ, especially bi. Also became immersed in lots of bisexual pop culture. She came out as bi, and even had a relationship with a girl for awhile. She is now in a relationship with a guy and no longer considers herself bi. This has been the same with several of her friends.

So, what I’m saying is that it is not a choice to be gay. But also, in many circles, it is definitely trendy right now to identify as LGBTQ so kids are convincing themselves of it. But also, college-aged kids experimenting with their sexuality is nothing new. They are just more open about it now.

Also, the more they see adults clutch their pearls about it, the more intrigued they become with it.

You’re welcome to believe that. You’re not welcome to teach that to other people’s children as a condition of their attending public school. Whether you agree or not, it’s a moral/religious question and schools are supposed to be teaching facts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can I be real here?

I am a democrat, btw.

I have a gay son who has known he was gay since he was 11, and he never had any doubt. He’s gay.

My daughter was straight, went to college and met many, many people who are LGBTQ, especially bi. Also became immersed in lots of bisexual pop culture. She came out as bi, and even had a relationship with a girl for awhile. She is now in a relationship with a guy and no longer considers herself bi. This has been the same with several of her friends.

So, what I’m saying is that it is not a choice to be gay. But also, in many circles, it is definitely trendy right now to identify as LGBTQ so kids are convincing themselves of it. But also, college-aged kids experimenting with their sexuality is nothing new. They are just more open about it now.

Also, the more they see adults clutch their pearls about it, the more intrigued they become with it.

OP here. Agree. This is what I am saying. We need to stop allowing this to be a thing. My daughter knew she was gay at age 10. And she still is. However my sister and a best friend in college both experimented and are now married to men.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why they are doing everything they can to make them invisible and strip them of rights. Help me understand. Don’t give me Bible BS. There are plenty of other things in the Bible we don’t permit like polygamy.

What’s the updates?

Didn’t they gain a bunch of rights years ago? What happened recently early?

Is this about new auto-access to trans drugs and surgeries?

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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why they are doing everything they can to make them invisible and strip them of rights. Help me understand. Don’t give me Bible BS. There are plenty of other things in the Bible we don’t permit like polygamy.

Because a) they believe being LBGTQ is a choice on some level b) they’re afraid of their kids being LGBTQ and so they want all references removed out of fear their child will be “convinced.”

People have a right to shape the moral thinking of their children.

It’s not a morality issue though.

In what world is it not?! Get real.

Morality implies choice. Being gay is not a choice.

There is no proof of a genetic trait determining homosexuality and that isn’t the point anyway. These lessons weren’t about “gays exist.” That argument was obliterated in the majority opinion so go read it. It was about promotion. It was about the trans issue as well including the idea that you have an internal soul that can conflict with your body and that is NOT science.

Honest question- where has this been occurring? I am not challenging you. I just genuinely have not followed this closely or heard of actual cases.

Read. The. SCOTUS. Opinion.

I am asking about specific instances where teachers are teaching kids this stuff. What school and what did they teach? Someone eluded to a teacher showing kids pics of a man and boy having oral? Where is this happening? Links?