Why do Rs hate the LGBTQ community?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MAGA here. I am fine with LGBTQetc. I'm not fine having to constantly center on their experiences. Also not fine with religious people being called bigots if they object to celebrating Pride events. I'm also not fine with, for example, flying Pride flags outside our embassies in Muslim nations. And basically any other aggressive assertion of gay values where people have deeply held beliefs about it being sinful.

I know the canned responses to all this. "But we have to center on straightness and we have our beliefs assaulted by a heteronormative culture!" Yes. Yes, you do. And that isn't going to change. These religions have dominated the world for thousands of years and you're going to have to deal with it. The best we can do is to tolerate everyone-- and stop insisting that people accept each other. It's not going to happen.

This country was founded on freedom of religion but somehow that has become only freedom of Christian religion.

If you don’t want to see a pride parade, don’t go. Is not hard. If you don’t want an abortion, fine. Don’t have one. Why does everyone else have to abide by your arbitrary religious rules?

My Christian version of religion doesn’t espouse hate. Why do others get to control?

The plaintiffs in the Supreme Court case from Maryland were primarily parents, led by Tamer Mahmoud and Enas Barakat, a Muslim couple, who objected to their children being required to receive instruction that promoted acceptance of homosexuality or transgender individuals without the option to opt out.

So my question to you is why are you ignoring this and blaming Christians?

[Anonymous]

Because religion is grounded in hatred. Religion preaches hatred of LBGTQ and women.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:MAGA here. I am fine with LGBTQetc. I'm not fine having to constantly center on their experiences. Also not fine with religious people being called bigots if they object to celebrating Pride events. I'm also not fine with, for example, flying Pride flags outside our embassies in Muslim nations. And basically any other aggressive assertion of gay values where people have deeply held beliefs about it being sinful.

I know the canned responses to all this. "But we have to center on straightness and we have our beliefs assaulted by a heteronormative culture!" Yes. Yes, you do. And that isn't going to change. These religions have dominated the world for thousands of years and you're going to have to deal with it. The best we can do is to tolerate everyone-- and stop insisting that people accept each other. It's not going to happen.

This country was founded on freedom of religion but somehow that has become only freedom of Christian religion.

If you don’t want to see a pride parade, don’t go. Is not hard. If you don’t want an abortion, fine. Don’t have one. Why does everyone else have to abide by your arbitrary religious rules?

My Christian version of religion doesn’t espouse hate. Why do others get to control?

I'm surprised you don't know this, but Islam takes a very dim view of homosexuality. Culturally, Muslims are much less accepting of the practice and in fact, it is illegal in most nations.

Muslims and Christians together make up more than half the people on the globe. Here in the US, you will not be jailed for homosexual behavior. However, you cannot expect religious people to simply cede the culture to you. You are not ceding the culture to them, in fact, you are strenuously agitating against them. Why wouldn't you expect the same in return?

[Anonymous]

Op, to put it simply- they think it will make their child gay. That’s really all there is to it.

Little do they know that kids who grow up in conservative, evangelical households are absolutely NOTORIOUS for secretly rebelling against their parents. I guess what they don’t know can’t hurt them. Lol

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why they are doing everything they can to make them invisible and strip them of rights. Help me understand. Don’t give me Bible BS. There are plenty of other things in the Bible we don’t permit like polygamy.

Because a) they believe being LBGTQ is a choice on some level b) they’re afraid of their kids being LGBTQ and so they want all references removed out of fear their child will be “
And it’s their right to believe that. So leave other parents alone. Raise your kids the way you want but you don’t get to force your beliefs on other people’s kids at taxpayer funded schools without an opt out.

They also don’t believe how the world was created. We can’t build education on made up belief systems. We aren’t doing anyone any favors. Education should be built on science. There is a reason we don’t teach kids that African Americans aren’t smart anymore - because it is not true.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why they are doing everything they can to make them invisible and strip them of rights. Help me understand. Don’t give me Bible BS. There are plenty of other things in the Bible we don’t permit like polygamy.

Because a) they believe being LBGTQ is a choice on some level b) they’re afraid of their kids being LGBTQ and so they want all references removed out of fear their child will be “convinced.”

People have a right to shape the moral thinking of their children.

It’s not a morality issue though.

In what world is it not?! Get real.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. Is this really a common problem? Teachers reading LGBTQ books to small children? Here’s my experience. I ised to work in a VERY liberal school district. Our library had LGBTQ books available for students to check out. Sometimes the counselor would guide specific students to those books as they saw necessary. I never read one out loud, and I don’t know if any of my co-workers did either. Simply because our reading material has to apply to our content.

Now I work in a fairly conservative district. Our counselor is conservative and likely does not discuss these topics or guides kids to reading material. I honestly don’t know if our library has the books. It just hasn’t come up.

We did have a guest speaker one time, at my current school, who uses they/them. I simply told the kids this beforehand and it was no big deal. I also let parents know simply by putting in newsletter that Jim Bob Smith (they/them) will be coming to talk to the class. No questions or pushback from parents.

This issue is not overtaking schools the way people think.

I’m sure I would have parents opting kids out if something LGBTQ-related did come up - fine. Whatever. I have had parents opt their kids out of state assessments, any reference to war, Halloween, the puberty talk, SpongeBob Squarepants, riding the bus to a field trip, recess when temp is below 35, their music program, and PE. It’s your kid. Whatever.

Entirely inappropriate for a school librarian to guide a child to LGBTQ material. It is simply not their role. Parents have a right to provide moral education. Schools and school staff have zero right. Your previous district should be sued.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why they are doing everything they can to make them invisible and strip them of rights. Help me understand. Don’t give me Bible BS. There are plenty of other things in the Bible we don’t permit like polygamy.

What legal rights are being asked for now? It’s 2025

Well, SCOTUS just ruled in favor of parents who want to exempt their children from being exposed to books that depict LGBTQ relationships. Why is there no way to exempt children from being exposed to books that depict heterosexual relationships?

Pretty sure there were also books that indicated that the doctor "guessed" or "assigned" gender at birth. I think parents (and teachers) should be able to opt out of that.

OP here. I don’t care one bit if a book
Depicts a relationship. Frankly there are SO many topics for books out there I cannot a) believe a school system is forcing a book about dysphoria on kids and b) choose something else about the millions of topics available. Honestly, why would a teacher choose that to read to a class.

Why can’t we just accept
Everyone as they are?

Because you want to tell other parents that they can’t opt out.

Leave other parents alone and there isn’t a problem.

If the book works for you, don’t opt out.

How many schools have actually been working this stuff into their K-5 curriculum? I have yet to see my kids who are moving into middle school vent home anything focused on or “promoting” LGBTQ culture.

Are you saying: "I haven't experienced, so it doesn't matter" or "It happens so rarely, not enough people are affected for it to matter". Many bad things have been rationalized that way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MAGA here. I am fine with LGBTQetc. I'm not fine having to constantly center on their experiences. Also not fine with religious people being called bigots if they object to celebrating Pride events. I'm also not fine with, for example, flying Pride flags outside our embassies in Muslim nations. And basically any other aggressive assertion of gay values where people have deeply held beliefs about it being sinful.

I know the canned responses to all this. "But we have to center on straightness and we have our beliefs assaulted by a heteronormative culture!" Yes. Yes, you do. And that isn't going to change. These religions have dominated the world for thousands of years and you're going to have to deal with it. The best we can do is to tolerate everyone-- and stop insisting that people accept each other. It's not going to happen.

This country was founded on freedom of religion but somehow that has become only freedom of Christian religion.

If you don’t want to see a pride parade, don’t go. Is not hard. If you don’t want an abortion, fine. Don’t have one. Why does everyone else have to abide by your arbitrary religious rules?

My Christian version of religion doesn’t espouse hate. Why do others get to control?

I'm surprised you don't know this, but Islam takes a very dim view of homosexuality. Culturally, Muslims are much less accepting of the practice and in fact, it is illegal in most nations.

Muslims and Christians together make up more than half the people on the globe. Here in the US, you will not be jailed for homosexual behavior. However, you cannot expect religious people to simply cede the culture to you. You are not ceding the culture to them, in fact, you are strenuously agitating against them. Why wouldn't you expect the same in return?

Dp here, but what are you even trying to say? This reads like Trump got ahold of a thesaurus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MAGA here. I am fine with LGBTQetc. I'm not fine having to constantly center on their experiences. Also not fine with religious people being called bigots if they object to celebrating Pride events. I'm also not fine with, for example, flying Pride flags outside our embassies in Muslim nations. And basically any other aggressive assertion of gay values where people have deeply held beliefs about it being sinful.

I know the canned responses to all this. "But we have to center on straightness and we have our beliefs assaulted by a heteronormative culture!" Yes. Yes, you do. And that isn't going to change. These religions have dominated the world for thousands of years and you're going to have to deal with it. The best we can do is to tolerate everyone-- and stop insisting that people accept each other. It's not going to happen.

This country was founded on freedom of religion but somehow that has become only freedom of Christian religion.

If you don’t want to see a pride parade, don’t go. Is not hard. If you don’t want an abortion, fine. Don’t have one. Why does everyone else have to abide by your arbitrary religious rules?

My Christian version of religion doesn’t espouse hate. Why do others get to control?

I'm surprised you don't know this, but Islam takes a very dim view of homosexuality. Culturally, Muslims are much less accepting of the practice and in fact, it is illegal in most nations.

Muslims and Christians together make up more than half the people on the globe. Here in the US, you will not be jailed for homosexual behavior. However, you cannot expect religious people to simply cede the culture to you. You are not ceding the culture to them, in fact, you are strenuously agitating against them. Why wouldn't you expect the same in return?

Any other time, I feel fairly certain an R would require ceding of others’ culture. How about TX posting the 10 commandments in classrooms?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MAGA here. I am fine with LGBTQetc. I'm not fine having to constantly center on their experiences. Also not fine with religious people being called bigots if they object to celebrating Pride events. I'm also not fine with, for example, flying Pride flags outside our embassies in Muslim nations. And basically any other aggressive assertion of gay values where people have deeply held beliefs about it being sinful.

I know the canned responses to all this. "But we have to center on straightness and we have our beliefs assaulted by a heteronormative culture!" Yes. Yes, you do. And that isn't going to change. These religions have dominated the world for thousands of years and you're going to have to deal with it. The best we can do is to tolerate everyone-- and stop insisting that people accept each other. It's not going to happen.

This country was founded on freedom of religion but somehow that has become only freedom of Christian religion.

If you don’t want to see a pride parade, don’t go. Is not hard. If you don’t want an abortion, fine. Don’t have one. Why does everyone else have to abide by your arbitrary religious rules?

My Christian version of religion doesn’t espouse hate. Why do others get to control?

I'm surprised you don't know this, but Islam takes a very dim view of homosexuality. Culturally, Muslims are much less accepting of the practice and in fact, it is illegal in most nations.

Muslims and Christians together make up more than half the people on the globe. Here in the US, you will not be jailed for homosexual behavior. However, you cannot expect religious people to simply cede the culture to you. You are not ceding the culture to them, in fact, you are strenuously agitating against them. Why wouldn't you expect the same in return?

Dp here, but what are you even trying to say? This reads like Trump got ahold of a thesaurus.

I'll pray for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. Is this really a common problem? Teachers reading LGBTQ books to small children? Here’s my experience. I ised to work in a VERY liberal school district. Our library had LGBTQ books available for students to check out. Sometimes the counselor would guide specific students to those books as they saw necessary. I never read one out loud, and I don’t know if any of my co-workers did either. Simply because our reading material has to apply to our content.

Now I work in a fairly conservative district. Our counselor is conservative and likely does not discuss these topics or guides kids to reading material. I honestly don’t know if our library has the books. It just hasn’t come up.

We did have a guest speaker one time, at my current school, who uses they/them. I simply told the kids this beforehand and it was no big deal. I also let parents know simply by putting in newsletter that Jim Bob Smith (they/them) will be coming to talk to the class. No questions or pushback from parents.

This issue is not overtaking schools the way people think.

I’m sure I would have parents opting kids out if something LGBTQ-related did come up - fine. Whatever. I have had parents opt their kids out of state assessments, any reference to war, Halloween, the puberty talk, SpongeBob Squarepants, riding the bus to a field trip, recess when temp is below 35, their music program, and PE. It’s your kid. Whatever.

Entirely inappropriate for a school librarian to guide a child to LGBTQ material. It is simply not their role. Parents have a right to provide moral education. Schools and school staff have zero right. Your previous district should be sued.

I said the counselor did, not the librarian.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op, to put it simply- they think it will make their child gay. That’s really all there is to it.

Little do they know that kids who grow up in conservative, evangelical households are absolutely NOTORIOUS for secretly rebelling against their parents. I guess what they don’t know can’t hurt them. Lol

This is actually what is at the root of
Most of our problems - a lack of understanding of science and a failure to
Teach critical thinking skills.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why they are doing everything they can to make them invisible and strip them of rights. Help me understand. Don’t give me Bible BS. There are plenty of other things in the Bible we don’t permit like polygamy.

Because a) they believe being LBGTQ is a choice on some level b) they’re afraid of their kids being LGBTQ and so they want all references removed out of fear their child will be “convinced.”

People have a right to shape the moral thinking of their children.

It’s not a morality issue though.

In what world is it not?! Get real.

Morality implies choice. Being gay is not a choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MAGA here. I am fine with LGBTQetc. I'm not fine having to constantly center on their experiences. Also not fine with religious people being called bigots if they object to celebrating Pride events. I'm also not fine with, for example, flying Pride flags outside our embassies in Muslim nations. And basically any other aggressive assertion of gay values where people have deeply held beliefs about it being sinful.

I know the canned responses to all this. "But we have to center on straightness and we have our beliefs assaulted by a heteronormative culture!" Yes. Yes, you do. And that isn't going to change. These religions have dominated the world for thousands of years and you're going to have to deal with it. The best we can do is to tolerate everyone-- and stop insisting that people accept each other. It's not going to happen.

This country was founded on freedom of religion but somehow that has become only freedom of Christian religion.

If you don’t want to see a pride parade, don’t go. Is not hard. If you don’t want an abortion, fine. Don’t have one. Why does everyone else have to abide by your arbitrary religious rules?

My Christian version of religion doesn’t espouse hate. Why do others get to control?

I'm surprised you don't know this, but Islam takes a very dim view of homosexuality. Culturally, Muslims are much less accepting of the practice and in fact, it is illegal in most nations.

Muslims and Christians together make up more than half the people on the globe. Here in the US, you will not be jailed for homosexual behavior. However, you cannot expect religious people to simply cede the culture to you. You are not ceding the culture to them, in fact, you are strenuously agitating against them. Why wouldn't you expect the same in return?

Any other time, I feel fairly certain an R would require ceding of others’ culture. How about TX posting the 10 commandments in classrooms?

Pp you are responding to. Yes. These values are in conflict and only one can win. I understand that the LGBTQ activist culture would like to see kids indoctrinated in gender theory at a young age. But this is at odds with the religious conservative belief that children should be indoctrinated in Judeo-Christian values. This is a clash and both sides are going to fight it out. It's unreasonable for the left to expect to be unopposed on these issues.

Re the 10 commandments- I don't believe this would hold up in litigation. It seems like a stretch.