Does it ever work out for the women whose boyfriends don’t propose?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"out of wedlock" lol. What is this, 1958?

My DH and I were together for 14 years before we got married. He was divorced (no kids, and no big terrible story -- just figured out they wanted different lives) and just didn't feel the need to do it again. I didn't feel strongly about it one way or the other. At some point we changed our minds and got married, just the two of us on a beach in Hawaii. We lived together for about 10 years before getting married, and 5 of them were in a house we bought together. We don't have kids.

It's 2024. People aren't feeling the need to have the state rubber-stamp their relationship.

You don’t have kids so you can’t understand a person who wants to have kids. Most women would want a commitment from the man.

Honestly, is marriage “a commitment” these days any more than cohabitation?

This is true, But the bitties who are married to a sack of garbage will tell you otherwise so they can feel superior about having a ring

[Anonymous]

I know one guy who has done with this two women now.

His las gf, they bought a house together, were dating 10 years, she found out he was cheating the entire last year of their relationship. They had to sell the house at a loss just to gfto of there.

He's now dating someone younger, who says she doesn't want kids (apparently he doesnt either). I think it's been like 5 years now, no ring. He doesnt seem to think of her in day to day things. for ex he got a buy out on his work vehicle for $5k. His gf just bought a new car for $20k. They didnt even consider selling her car to buy his work car and save her money. Funny story, my husband bought it, but still, he was not thinking of her at all. She's still young so I'm not sure if she will change her stance on kids, but if she's happy with no kids, maybe he will turn out. If she changes her mind, I'm afraid she will be stuck with a dead end =/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know one guy who has done with this two women now.

His las gf, they bought a house together, were dating 10 years, she found out he was cheating the entire last year of their relationship. They had to sell the house at a loss just to gfto of there.

He's now dating someone younger, who says she doesn't want kids (apparently he doesnt either). I think it's been like 5 years now, no ring. He doesnt seem to think of her in day to day things. for ex he got a buy out on his work vehicle for $5k. His gf just bought a new car for $20k. They didnt even consider selling her car to buy his work car and save her money. Funny story, my husband bought it, but still, he was not thinking of her at all. She's still young so I'm not sure if she will change her stance on kids, but if she's happy with no kids, maybe he will turn out. If she changes her mind, I'm afraid she will be stuck with a dead end =/

I should also add, the first gf of 10 yrs, she just had a baby with someone else that shes been dating/bought a house with. Still not married, but she got a baby.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"out of wedlock" lol. What is this, 1958?

My DH and I were together for 14 years before we got married. He was divorced (no kids, and no big terrible story -- just figured out they wanted different lives) and just didn't feel the need to do it again. I didn't feel strongly about it one way or the other. At some point we changed our minds and got married, just the two of us on a beach in Hawaii. We lived together for about 10 years before getting married, and 5 of them were in a house we bought together. We don't have kids.

It's 2024. People aren't feeling the need to have the state rubber-stamp their relationship.

Op here. Everyone in our circles with kids are married. Of course there are single parents and divorced parents who we don’t know their dating history but everyone we socialize with are married.

I honestly can’t think of anyone I know who just had a baby alone. We know a few people who got pregnant and got married. Some were conceived during engagement. One was a whoops and they had a shotgun wedding.

Hmm. I'm a single parent and my married friends still socialize with me.

Interestingly, I now quite a few couples where the woman was the one who didn't want kids, often because she knew she would be the one doing all of the work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"out of wedlock" lol. What is this, 1958?

My DH and I were together for 14 years before we got married. He was divorced (no kids, and no big terrible story -- just figured out they wanted different lives) and just didn't feel the need to do it again. I didn't feel strongly about it one way or the other. At some point we changed our minds and got married, just the two of us on a beach in Hawaii. We lived together for about 10 years before getting married, and 5 of them were in a house we bought together. We don't have kids.

It's 2024. People aren't feeling the need to have the state rubber-stamp their relationship.

You don’t have kids so you can’t understand a person who wants to have kids. Most women would want a commitment from the man.

Honestly, is marriage “a commitment” these days any more than cohabitation?

Actually it is. You stand in front of your family and friends and exchange vows to spend the rest of your life together. You are becoming one another’s family. You are legally married.

I used to think it didn’t really matter. Now that I am older I understand the financial aspect of marriage, the status of being married. It is very different than just being a girlfriend or partner. I know in our circles, we don’t take girlfriends as serious as wives. The guys may bring a new girlfriend around every year or so. Very different when it is a wife.

Well yeah, you’re a kunt. Of course you look down on others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"out of wedlock" lol. What is this, 1958?

My DH and I were together for 14 years before we got married. He was divorced (no kids, and no big terrible story -- just figured out they wanted different lives) and just didn't feel the need to do it again. I didn't feel strongly about it one way or the other. At some point we changed our minds and got married, just the two of us on a beach in Hawaii. We lived together for about 10 years before getting married, and 5 of them were in a house we bought together. We don't have kids.

It's 2024. People aren't feeling the need to have the state rubber-stamp their relationship.

You don’t have kids so you can’t understand a person who wants to have kids. Most women would want a commitment from the man.

Honestly, is marriage “a commitment” these days any more than cohabitation?

Actually it is. You stand in front of your family and friends and exchange vows to spend the rest of your life together. You are becoming one another’s family. You are legally married.

I used to think it didn’t really matter. Now that I am older I understand the financial aspect of marriage, the status of being married. It is very different than just being a girlfriend or partner. I know in our circles, we don’t take girlfriends as serious as wives. The guys may bring a new girlfriend around every year or so. Very different when it is a wife.

Well yeah, you’re a kunt. Of course you look down on others.

Wow, you seem very upset by a not big deal comment. We are in our mid forties. We have been together for over 20 years. We have teen kids and most of our friends have been married for 10-20 years. Our colleagues are all married. The very few who are not or are divorced may being a girlfriend to a holiday party or birthday occasionally. If we never see her again because they broke up or the coworker never brings her again, we can’t get to know her. The wives we see for decades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"out of wedlock" lol. What is this, 1958?

My DH and I were together for 14 years before we got married. He was divorced (no kids, and no big terrible story -- just figured out they wanted different lives) and just didn't feel the need to do it again. I didn't feel strongly about it one way or the other. At some point we changed our minds and got married, just the two of us on a beach in Hawaii. We lived together for about 10 years before getting married, and 5 of them were in a house we bought together. We don't have kids.

It's 2024. People aren't feeling the need to have the state rubber-stamp their relationship.

You don’t have kids so you can’t understand a person who wants to have kids. Most women would want a commitment from the man.

Honestly, is marriage “a commitment” these days any more than cohabitation?

Actually it is. You stand in front of your family and friends and exchange vows to spend the rest of your life together. You are becoming one another’s family. You are legally married.

I used to think it didn’t really matter. Now that I am older I understand the financial aspect of marriage, the status of being married. It is very different than just being a girlfriend or partner. I know in our circles, we don’t take girlfriends as serious as wives. The guys may bring a new girlfriend around every year or so. Very different when it is a wife.

Well yeah, you’re a kunt. Of course you look down on others.

Wow, you seem very upset by a not big deal comment. We are in our mid forties. We have been together for over 20 years. We have teen kids and most of our friends have been married for 10-20 years. Our colleagues are all married. The very few who are not or are divorced may being a girlfriend to a holiday party or birthday occasionally. If we never see her again because they broke up or the coworker never brings her again, we can’t get to know her. The wives we see for decades.

We see your character. And now you’re backpedaling from your original comment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We’ve been together for 20 years, unmarried. He did eventually propose around year 12 but honestly by that point it just seemed moot to me. We have a daughter, and all the trappings of a typical suburban family. Most people new in our lives don’t even know we’re not married and those who have been our friends for ages don’t care.

Now, marriage wasn’t a big deal to me. I had an abusive husband before my now partner, my mother was a serial marry-er, and I know a lot of people with failed marriages. In my heart, I know that marriage doesn’t equate to “forever” or happily ever after. In that, someone may believe the opposite and that’s okay. For us, I know we are both here because we want to be, day after day, even when it gets hard. Neither of us *have* to stay (although obviously with a child that’s a little different of an equation).

This is my exact situation except we have been together 11 years now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"out of wedlock" lol. What is this, 1958?

My DH and I were together for 14 years before we got married. He was divorced (no kids, and no big terrible story -- just figured out they wanted different lives) and just didn't feel the need to do it again. I didn't feel strongly about it one way or the other. At some point we changed our minds and got married, just the two of us on a beach in Hawaii. We lived together for about 10 years before getting married, and 5 of them were in a house we bought together. We don't have kids.

It's 2024. People aren't feeling the need to have the state rubber-stamp their relationship.

You don’t have kids so you can’t understand a person who wants to have kids. Most women would want a commitment from the man.

Honestly, is marriage “a commitment” these days any more than cohabitation?

Actually it is. You stand in front of your family and friends and exchange vows to spend the rest of your life together. You are becoming one another’s family. You are legally married.

I used to think it didn’t really matter. Now that I am older I understand the financial aspect of marriage, the status of being married. It is very different than just being a girlfriend or partner. I know in our circles, we don’t take girlfriends as serious as wives. The guys may bring a new girlfriend around every year or so. Very different when it is a wife.

Well yeah, you’re a kunt. Of course you look down on others.

Wow, you seem very upset by a not big deal comment. We are in our mid forties. We have been together for over 20 years. We have teen kids and most of our friends have been married for 10-20 years. Our colleagues are all married. The very few who are not or are divorced may being a girlfriend to a holiday party or birthday occasionally. If we never see her again because they broke up or the coworker never brings her again, we can’t get to know her. The wives we see for decades.

We see your character. And now you’re backpedaling from your original comment.

I’m not backpedaling at all. If my divorced girlfriend has a new guy, I don’t take him seriously either. I am not really interested in hanging out for someone who may only be in her life for a few months. You only have so much time.

My BIL is single. We used to meet his girlfriends over the years. Now I’m not so interested. He seems to have a serious girlfriend now. He has a few girlfriends per year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"out of wedlock" lol. What is this, 1958?

My DH and I were together for 14 years before we got married. He was divorced (no kids, and no big terrible story -- just figured out they wanted different lives) and just didn't feel the need to do it again. I didn't feel strongly about it one way or the other. At some point we changed our minds and got married, just the two of us on a beach in Hawaii. We lived together for about 10 years before getting married, and 5 of them were in a house we bought together. We don't have kids.

It's 2024. People aren't feeling the need to have the state rubber-stamp their relationship.

You don’t have kids so you can’t understand a person who wants to have kids. Most women would want a commitment from the man.

Honestly, is marriage “a commitment” these days any more than cohabitation?

Actually it is. You stand in front of your family and friends and exchange vows to spend the rest of your life together. You are becoming one another’s family. You are legally married.

I used to think it didn’t really matter. Now that I am older I understand the financial aspect of marriage, the status of being married. It is very different than just being a girlfriend or partner. I know in our circles, we don’t take girlfriends as serious as wives. The guys may bring a new girlfriend around every year or so. Very different when it is a wife.

Well yeah, you’re a kunt. Of course you look down on others.

Wow, you seem very upset by a not big deal comment. We are in our mid forties. We have been together for over 20 years. We have teen kids and most of our friends have been married for 10-20 years. Our colleagues are all married. The very few who are not or are divorced may being a girlfriend to a holiday party or birthday occasionally. If we never see her again because they broke up or the coworker never brings her again, we can’t get to know her. The wives we see for decades.

We see your character. And now you’re backpedaling from your original comment.

I’m not backpedaling at all. If my divorced girlfriend has a new guy, I don’t take him seriously either. I am not really interested in hanging out for someone who may only be in her life for a few months. You only have so much time.

My BIL is single. We used to meet his girlfriends over the years. Now I’m not so interested. He seems to have a serious girlfriend now. He has a few girlfriends per year.

Yaas queen! Stand in your ignorance!

[Anonymous]

The men and women don’t seem overly excited about these people either. It isn’t like when we are teens gushing over their crushes. They themselves are not head over heels in love, just dating someone. If they are whatever about it, I’m also whatever about it too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"out of wedlock" lol. What is this, 1958?

My DH and I were together for 14 years before we got married. He was divorced (no kids, and no big terrible story -- just figured out they wanted different lives) and just didn't feel the need to do it again. I didn't feel strongly about it one way or the other. At some point we changed our minds and got married, just the two of us on a beach in Hawaii. We lived together for about 10 years before getting married, and 5 of them were in a house we bought together. We don't have kids.

It's 2024. People aren't feeling the need to have the state rubber-stamp their relationship.

You don’t have kids so you can’t understand a person who wants to have kids. Most women would want a commitment from the man.

Honestly, is marriage “a commitment” these days any more than cohabitation?

Actually it is. You stand in front of your family and friends and exchange vows to spend the rest of your life together. You are becoming one another’s family. You are legally married.

I used to think it didn’t really matter. Now that I am older I understand the financial aspect of marriage, the status of being married. It is very different than just being a girlfriend or partner. I know in our circles, we don’t take girlfriends as serious as wives. The guys may bring a new girlfriend around every year or so. Very different when it is a wife.

Well yeah, you’re a kunt. Of course you look down on others.

Wow, you seem very upset by a not big deal comment. We are in our mid forties. We have been together for over 20 years. We have teen kids and most of our friends have been married for 10-20 years. Our colleagues are all married. The very few who are not or are divorced may being a girlfriend to a holiday party or birthday occasionally. If we never see her again because they broke up or the coworker never brings her again, we can’t get to know her. The wives we see for decades.

We see your character. And now you’re backpedaling from your original comment.

I’m not backpedaling at all. If my divorced girlfriend has a new guy, I don’t take him seriously either. I am not really interested in hanging out for someone who may only be in her life for a few months. You only have so much time.

My BIL is single. We used to meet his girlfriends over the years. Now I’m not so interested. He seems to have a serious girlfriend now. He has a few girlfriends per year.

Yaas queen! Stand in your ignorance!

What ignorance? Most of our friends and colleagues are married with children. A few are divorced. If I’m catching up with an old friend who happens to now be single and divorced and she or he is dating someone that they don’t make a big deal out of. I’m not that interested in that person they are dating. By the next time we get together comes along, they are no longer dating. This seems more like how it goes in post divorced life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"out of wedlock" lol. What is this, 1958?

My DH and I were together for 14 years before we got married. He was divorced (no kids, and no big terrible story -- just figured out they wanted different lives) and just didn't feel the need to do it again. I didn't feel strongly about it one way or the other. At some point we changed our minds and got married, just the two of us on a beach in Hawaii. We lived together for about 10 years before getting married, and 5 of them were in a house we bought together. We don't have kids.

It's 2024. People aren't feeling the need to have the state rubber-stamp their relationship.

You don’t have kids so you can’t understand a person who wants to have kids. Most women would want a commitment from the man.

Honestly, is marriage “a commitment” these days any more than cohabitation?

Actually it is. You stand in front of your family and friends and exchange vows to spend the rest of your life together. You are becoming one another’s family. You are legally married.

I used to think it didn’t really matter. Now that I am older I understand the financial aspect of marriage, the status of being married. It is very different than just being a girlfriend or partner. I know in our circles, we don’t take girlfriends as serious as wives. The guys may bring a new girlfriend around every year or so. Very different when it is a wife.

Well yeah, you’re a kunt. Of course you look down on others.

Wow, you seem very upset by a not big deal comment. We are in our mid forties. We have been together for over 20 years. We have teen kids and most of our friends have been married for 10-20 years. Our colleagues are all married. The very few who are not or are divorced may being a girlfriend to a holiday party or birthday occasionally. If we never see her again because they broke up or the coworker never brings her again, we can’t get to know her. The wives we see for decades.

We see your character. And now you’re backpedaling from your original comment.

I’m not backpedaling at all. If my divorced girlfriend has a new guy, I don’t take him seriously either. I am not really interested in hanging out for someone who may only be in her life for a few months. You only have so much time.

My BIL is single. We used to meet his girlfriends over the years. Now I’m not so interested. He seems to have a serious girlfriend now. He has a few girlfriends per year.

Yaas queen! Stand in your ignorance!

What ignorance? Most of our friends and colleagues are married with children. A few are divorced. If I’m catching up with an old friend who happens to now be single and divorced and she or he is dating someone that they don’t make a big deal out of. I’m not that interested in that person they are dating. By the next time we get together comes along, they are no longer dating. This seems more like how it goes in post divorced life.

Keep digging that grave sweetheart. You being a boorish ahole isn't the flex you think it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The men and women don’t seem overly excited about these people either. It isn’t like when we are teens gushing over their crushes. They themselves are not head over heels in love, just dating someone. If they are whatever about it, I’m also whatever about it too.

Sounds like backpedaling now.. Too late you've already put your nastiness out in the universe. Divorce hits clowns like you hard. I know. I know you'll never get divorced,

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We’ve been together for 20 years, unmarried. He did eventually propose around year 12 but honestly by that point it just seemed moot to me. We have a daughter, and all the trappings of a typical suburban family. Most people new in our lives don’t even know we’re not married and those who have been our friends for ages don’t care.

Now, marriage wasn’t a big deal to me. I had an abusive husband before my now partner, my mother was a serial marry-er, and I know a lot of people with failed marriages. In my heart, I know that marriage doesn’t equate to “forever” or happily ever after. In that, someone may believe the opposite and that’s okay. For us, I know we are both here because we want to be, day after day, even when it gets hard. Neither of us *have* to stay (although obviously with a child that’s a little different of an equation).

Do you have any joint assets, accounts, and beneficiaries on each other’s wills?

And what state is this in? In DC?, congratulations you ARE married.

DC doesn’t recognize these partnerships, actually.

She can start referring to him as her husband on documents and bam.