White applicants fall and Asian-American applicants flat to highly selective schools.

Anonymous
Whites are getting smarter and just checking the hispanic box. They'll play the game if asked.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:My black DS gamed the system with his 4.8 wGPA, 1540 SAT score, and six years of ECs showing his passion for an unpopular but very difficult STEM field


Where is he now?


Since fewer than 1,000 blacks score above 1550 on the SAT, having such a score is a huge hook.


How do you know this? Please provide a citation.


DP: It is approximately 1K but that is based on one sitting in a testing year. You can find the data via College Board annual reports. The Journal of Blacks in Higher Ed also keeps track of the data. According to JBHE, approx. 2K Black students apply each year with a score >1500. There are another 2k students with equivalent ACT scores. According to JBHE researchers, in any given application cycle, there are approximately 3-4k Black students applying with 1500+/34+ scores.


How many Asian students apply with the same scores?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My black DS gamed the system with his 4.8 wGPA, 1540 SAT score, and six years of ECs showing his passion for an unpopular but very difficult STEM field


Where is he now?


Since fewer than 1,000 blacks score above 1550 on the SAT, having such a score is a huge hook.


How do you know this? Please provide a citation.


DP: It is approximately 1K but that is based on one sitting in a testing year. You can find the data via College Board annual reports. The Journal of Blacks in Higher Ed also keeps track of the data. According to JBHE, approx. 2K Black students apply each year with a score >1500. There are another 2k students with equivalent ACT scores. According to JBHE researchers, in any given application cycle, there are approximately 3-4k Black students applying with 1500+/34+ scores.


How many Asian students apply with the same scores?


A magnitude higher.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Every Hispanic kid we know - with Cuban or Brazilian or Colombian heritage - had gotte. Into every T10 they’ve applied.


Same. Brazilian and Argentinian.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:My black DS gamed the system with his 4.8 wGPA, 1540 SAT score, and six years of ECs showing his passion for an unpopular but very difficult STEM field


If this is gaming the system, keep it up!

well, my Asian/White kid had higher stats than that and got rejected from T15, so I guess my DC isn't playing the game correctly.


That’s the advantage. Is anyone arguing that it doesn’t exist at all?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My black DS gamed the system with his 4.8 wGPA, 1540 SAT score, and six years of ECs showing his passion for an unpopular but very difficult STEM field


Where is he now?


Since fewer than 1,000 blacks score above 1550 on the SAT, having such a score is a huge hook.


How do you know this? Please provide a citation.


DP: It is approximately 1K but that is based on one sitting in a testing year. You can find the data via College Board annual reports. The Journal of Blacks in Higher Ed also keeps track of the data. According to JBHE, approx. 2K Black students apply each year with a score >1500. There are another 2k students with equivalent ACT scores. According to JBHE researchers, in any given application cycle, there are approximately 3-4k Black students applying with 1500+/34+ scores.


How many Asian students apply with the same scores?


A lot more. And if they are all competing for the same seats them there will be a whole lot of disappointment. Before the SC it would have been easy for HYP to find students by discrete criteria. Now they can't and it is back to interviews and essays to figure out which basically perfect students get admitted.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Whites are getting smarter and just checking the hispanic box. They'll play the game if asked.

The checkboxes aren't considered by admissions following the Supreme Court ruling last summer.

The exception would be those who are able to check the box for PSAT *and* score in the top 10% for the group, to get National Hispanic Recognition, which they can then include in college apps.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Every Hispanic kid we know - with Cuban or Brazilian or Colombian heritage - had gotte. Into every T10 they’ve applied.


Same. Brazilian and Argentinian.


Here too. It’s quite shocking tbh
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Whites are getting smarter and just checking the hispanic box. They'll play the game if asked.

The checkboxes aren't considered by admissions following the Supreme Court ruling last summer.

The exception would be those who are able to check the box for PSAT *and* score in the top 10% for the group, to get National Hispanic Recognition, which they can then include in college apps.


And for those who discuss “Brazilian heritage” in essays…
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Whites are getting smarter and just checking the hispanic box. They'll play the game if asked.


Do you think that is why JHU only has 18% Caucasians in their last class? That number just seems really low for a private school on the east coast
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My black DS gamed the system with his 4.8 wGPA, 1540 SAT score, and six years of ECs showing his passion for an unpopular but very difficult STEM field


Where is he now?


Since fewer than 1,000 blacks score above 1550 on the SAT, having such a score is a huge hook.


How do you know this? Please provide a citation.


DP: It is approximately 1K but that is based on one sitting in a testing year. You can find the data via College Board annual reports. The Journal of Blacks in Higher Ed also keeps track of the data. According to JBHE, approx. 2K Black students apply each year with a score >1500. There are another 2k students with equivalent ACT scores. According to JBHE researchers, in any given application cycle, there are approximately 3-4k Black students applying with 1500+/34+ scores.


That's interesting. I know of at least 4 black students (my DC included) at my child's school alone who scored 34+ this cycle.



That puts them in the 99th percentile. Smart kids.
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Anonymous wrote:Questbridge is really pushing hispanic enrollment numbers up. QB is getting more hispanic kids in than black just because of the first-gen qualification category.


💯 see admitted college Instagram pages for evidence


Exactly 0 of our admits to top colleges (MIT, Chicago, JHU, Georgetown) have used their schools Instagram to make the announcement. If you were to look you would link UMCP and GWU were the top destinations. Don't use Instagram as though it were substantial. It isn't.


Reading is a talent.

Look at admitted “colleges” class pages. Not your high school. E.g Dartmouthclassof2028
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Questbridge is really pushing hispanic enrollment numbers up. QB is getting more hispanic kids in than black just because of the first-gen qualification category.


💯 see admitted college Instagram pages for evidence


Exactly 0 of our admits to top colleges (MIT, Chicago, JHU, Georgetown) have used their schools Instagram to make the announcement. If you were to look you would link UMCP and GWU were the top destinations. Don't use Instagram as though it were substantial. It isn't.


Reading is a talent.

Look at admitted “colleges” class pages. Not your high school. E.g Dartmouthclassof2028


These are interesting sites; discovered after ED.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Whites are getting smarter and just checking the hispanic box. They'll play the game if asked.

The checkboxes aren't considered by admissions following the Supreme Court ruling last summer.

The exception would be those who are able to check the box for PSAT *and* score in the top 10% for the group, to get National Hispanic Recognition, which they can then include in college apps.


Yep. The PP is ignorant. Can't even get the "cheating" story right.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Every Hispanic kid we know - with Cuban or Brazilian or Colombian heritage - had gotte. Into every T10 they’ve applied.


Same. Brazilian and Argentinian.



Yep.

It's a good time to have a grandparent from South America.

And that's all it takes for the National Hispanic Recognition Program - plus scores and gpa. But it's not a particularly high bar.

Big hook.

Use it if you can. Colleges make the rules. You're just playing the game.

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