White applicants fall and Asian-American applicants flat to highly selective schools.

[Anonymous]

Intresting graphic and discussion in Jeff Selingo's newsletter today about application trends by race and ethnicity.

"At the most selective colleges—those that accept fewer than 25% of students—the number of applications from those who identify as Black/African-American are up 3.4% compared to last year, according to the latest report on application trends from the Common App.

Hispanic applicants are up even higher at the most selective schools, some 4.9%.

But applications to those colleges from students identifying as white dropped 5.8% over last year, while among Asian-American students they essentially remained flat.

The Common App attributed the big increase from last year to this year in "unknown," where applicants don't list their race/ethnicity, to an unexplained dip last year in this category over the previous year. Still, the proportion of applicants not listing their race/ethnicity has grown the most of all categories since 2019-20.

Some of the biggest increases across racial and ethnic groups were at colleges classified by the Common App as “more selective,” meaning they admit between 50% and 74% of applicants.

This group of institutions along with less selective colleges (admit >75%) have seen some of the larger jumps in apps in recent years, according to the Common App data.

That trend is likely a reflection that admission to top-ranked colleges has become nearly impossible, so students are applying to more institutions further downstream."

[Anonymous]

Makes sense to me.

High-achieving low-income kids, who are disproportionately URMs, send a ton of RD apps to elite schools that give full rides. Lots of apps, not so many applicants.

High-achieving upper-income kids, who are disproportionately white, use the ED system. That reduces RD apps to elite schools. Just 1-2 apps per applicant.

[Anonymous]

I don't think the fallout from the supreme court decision has been fully priced in. Likely it will take a few cycles before expectations adjust.

[Anonymous]

Who would have every expected that outcome in a test optional environment given recent court decisions.

[Anonymous]

White families are trying to game the system by EDing a tier below.

[Anonymous]

White/Asian wouldn't want to identify their race given it's a point against them, though the last name for Asians give it away.

URM would identify their race since being a URM is a point for them. So, it makes sense to that their numbers go up, and the "not specified" number also goes up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:White families are trying to game the system by EDing a tier below.

how is that gaming the system?

Are URM gaming the system by playing up their URM status?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:White families are trying to game the system by EDing a tier below.

how is that gaming the system?

Are URM gaming the system by playing up their URM status?

It’s not. PP is being obnoxious

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:White families are trying to game the system by EDing a tier below.

how is that gaming the system?

Are URM gaming the system by playing up their URM status?

The whole system is a preposterous game, so doing anything intentional like ED is gaming.

It's gaming because they are intentionally committing to a less preferred option in order to increase their chances. In a non-gaming world, ED would just be a convenience choice to avoid submitting a pile of extra apps to other schools.

[Anonymous]

Whites and Asians are overrepresented. Blacks and Hispanics are underrepresented.

Most colleges want a diverse campus.

Nothing has changed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:White families are trying to game the system by EDing a tier below.

how is that gaming the system?

Are URM gaming the system by playing up their URM status?

It’s not. PP is being obnoxious

It's leveraging their ability to disregard finances. Whether or not it's gaming the system is a subjective call

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Intresting graphic and discussion in Jeff Selingo's newsletter today about application trends by race and ethnicity.

"At the most selective colleges—those that accept fewer than 25% of students—the number of applications from those who identify as Black/African-American are up 3.4% compared to last year, according to the latest report on application trends from the Common App.

Hispanic applicants are up even higher at the most selective schools, some 4.9%.

But applications to those colleges from students identifying as white dropped 5.8% over last year, while among Asian-American students they essentially remained flat.

The Common App attributed the big increase from last year to this year in "unknown," where applicants don't list their race/ethnicity, to an unexplained dip last year in this category over the previous year. Still, the proportion of applicants not listing their race/ethnicity has grown the most of all categories since 2019-20.

Some of the biggest increases across racial and ethnic groups were at colleges classified by the Common App as “more selective,” meaning they admit between 50% and 74% of applicants.

This group of institutions along with less selective colleges (admit >75%) have seen some of the larger jumps in apps in recent years, according to the Common App data.

That trend is likely a reflection that admission to top-ranked colleges has become nearly impossible, so students are applying to more institutions further downstream."

I suspect the bulk of the "missing" white people are in the Unknown race/ethnicity bucket.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:White families are trying to game the system by EDing a tier below.

how is that gaming the system?

Are URM gaming the system by playing up their URM status?

The whole system is a preposterous game, so doing anything intentional like ED is gaming.

It's gaming because they are intentionally committing to a less preferred option in order to increase their chances. In a non-gaming world, ED would just be a convenience choice to avoid submitting a pile of extra apps to other schools.

ED is not illegal; it's a viable option. Therefore, it's not gaming.

However, if you say the whole system is preposterous (which I agree), then checking URM on your application and writing about your URM experience is also "gaming the system", especially if you check Hispanic and you are lilly white but were born south of the border. The intention of the Hispanic and URM was not meant for blonde/blue eyed, but hey, that's the way the system has been setup, so if I were white Hispanic, I'd check that box, too. Why not?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think the fallout from the supreme court decision has been fully priced in. Likely it will take a few cycles before expectations adjust.

And the return to test non-optional.

[Anonymous]

Every Hispanic kid we know - with Cuban or Brazilian or Colombian heritage - had gotte. Into every T10 they’ve applied.