White applicants fall and Asian-American applicants flat to highly selective schools.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think the fallout from the supreme court decision has been fully priced in. Likely it will take a few cycles before expectations adjust.

And the return to test non-optional.

Bingo.

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Anonymous wrote:Every Hispanic kid we know - with Cuban or Brazilian or Colombian heritage - had gotte. Into every T10 they’ve applied.

Same

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Applicants do not equal admits do not equal enrolled students. It'll be a bit before we know more.

From OP:

Some of the biggest increases across racial and ethnic groups were at colleges classified by the Common App as “more selective,” meaning they admit between 50% and 74% of applicants.

So, schools that are targets or safeties for high stats students.

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I don't think the fallout from the supreme court decision has been fully priced in. Likely it will take a few cycles before expectations adjust.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:Every Hispanic kid we know - with Cuban or Brazilian or Colombian heritage - had gotte. Into every T10 they’ve applied.

How many do you know?

Speculation: perhaps out of fear, top schools are grabbing whatever URMs they can find, including advantaged/high stats ones, such as those who include the National Hispanic Recognition Program among their awards.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every Hispanic kid we know - with Cuban or Brazilian or Colombian heritage - had gotte. Into every T10 they’ve applied.

How many do you know?

Speculation: perhaps out of fear, top schools are grabbing whatever URMs they can find, including advantaged/high stats ones, such as those who include the National Hispanic Recognition Program among their awards.

At a private. We all know whose parents are of South American or Latin American heritage, even if name/appearance would reveal nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:White families are trying to game the system by EDing a tier below.

how is that gaming the system?

Are URM gaming the system by playing up their URM status?

Yes.

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Anonymous wrote:Every Hispanic kid we know - with Cuban or Brazilian or Colombian heritage - had gotte. Into every T10 they’ve applied.

I don't get this! Blacks and Native Americans deserve all the set-asides, preferential treatments, etc. (within reason, of course), but why Hispanics, especially those that are not first-gen or poor???!!!??? Which idiot came up with that?

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Anonymous wrote:Intresting graphic and discussion in Jeff Selingo's newsletter today about application trends by race and ethnicity.

"At the most selective colleges—those that accept fewer than 25% of students—the number of applications from those who identify as Black/African-American are up 3.4% compared to last year, according to the latest report on application trends from the Common App.

Hispanic applicants are up even higher at the most selective schools, some 4.9%.

But applications to those colleges from students identifying as white dropped 5.8% over last year, while among Asian-American students they essentially remained flat.

The Common App attributed the big increase from last year to this year in "unknown," where applicants don't list their race/ethnicity, to an unexplained dip last year in this category over the previous year. Still, the proportion of applicants not listing their race/ethnicity has grown the most of all categories since 2019-20.

Some of the biggest increases across racial and ethnic groups were at colleges classified by the Common App as “more selective,” meaning they admit between 50% and 74% of applicants.

This group of institutions along with less selective colleges (admit >75%) have seen some of the larger jumps in apps in recent years, according to the Common App data.

That trend is likely a reflection that admission to top-ranked colleges has become nearly impossible, so students are applying to more institutions further downstream."

I suspect the bulk of the "missing" white people are in the Unknown race/ethnicity bucket.

+100 If you have "missing" white kids, and an increase in folks refusing to answer the question, I think you can assume most of those missing white kids just declined to answer. It doesn't mean a drop in white kids, it means a drop in kids identifying in white on their applications.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every Hispanic kid we know - with Cuban or Brazilian or Colombian heritage - had gotte. Into every T10 they’ve applied.

I don't get this! Blacks and Native Americans deserve all the set-asides, preferential treatments, etc. (within reason, of course), but why Hispanics, especially those that are not first-gen or poor???!!!??? Which idiot came up with that?

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But that’s not our system. The private black kid who is the son of a banker and lawyer or Hispanic kid who is the son of a hedge fund magnate and his Colombian wife is way more desirable to that college.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every Hispanic kid we know - with Cuban or Brazilian or Colombian heritage - had gotte. Into every T10 they’ve applied.

I don't get this! Blacks and Native Americans deserve all the set-asides, preferential treatments, etc. (within reason, of course), but why Hispanics, especially those that are not first-gen or poor???!!!??? Which idiot came up with that?

Current system is not based on SES but race and ethnicity.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think the fallout from the supreme court decision has been fully priced in. Likely it will take a few cycles before expectations adjust.

There will be no fall out due to holistic admissions.

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Very disappointed with my fellow Asian-Americans who are still not boycotting highly selective schools in favor of in-state flagships.

C'mon guys! Let's do this for a few years and change the increase the rankings of the cheaper state schools! Let's do something very good for USA. We know that we are the people with brains, hard work and discipline.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every Hispanic kid we know - with Cuban or Brazilian or Colombian heritage - had gotte. Into every T10 they’ve applied.

I don't get this! Blacks and Native Americans deserve all the set-asides, preferential treatments, etc. (within reason, of course), but why Hispanics, especially those that are not first-gen or poor???!!!??? Which idiot came up with that?

Current system is not based on SES but race and ethnicity.

I get that. But why preference for Hispanics? Why not for Chinese?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Very disappointed with my fellow Asian-Americans who are still not boycotting highly selective schools in favor of in-state flagships.

C'mon guys! Let's do this for a few years and change the increase the rankings of the cheaper state schools! Let's do something very good for USA. We know that we are the people with brains, hard work and discipline.

So white people are not smart? Without prepping, tutoring, etc. - they can get into top schools, but they are not smart? Interesting. I know kids who were/are tutored every day, and their college life carefully planned out by their parents, and they still are not where their parents want them to be.