White applicants fall and Asian-American applicants flat to highly selective schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every Hispanic kid we know - with Cuban or Brazilian or Colombian heritage - had gotte. Into every T10 they’ve applied.

I don't get this! Blacks and Native Americans deserve all the set-asides, preferential treatments, etc. (within reason, of course), but why Hispanics, especially those that are not first-gen or poor???!!!??? Which idiot came up with that?

Current system is not based on SES but race and ethnicity.

I get that. But why preference for Hispanics? Why not for Chinese?

Historically underrepresented (URM) vs overrepresented (ORM)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every Hispanic kid we know - with Cuban or Brazilian or Colombian heritage - had gotte. Into every T10 they’ve applied.

I don't get this! Blacks and Native Americans deserve all the set-asides, preferential treatments, etc. (within reason, of course), but why Hispanics, especially those that are not first-gen or poor???!!!??? Which idiot came up with that?

Current system is not based on SES but race and ethnicity.

I get that. But why preference for Hispanics? Why not for Chinese?

Historically underrepresented (URM) vs overrepresented (ORM)

It is fuzzy logic that helps Cuban, Brazilian or Columbians to get into T10 colleges as URMs. Also it should be URM - IHE. (Under Represented Minorities - In Higher Education).

It is not that they are URM in the criminal justice system, or food stamps, or teen pregnancies etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every Hispanic kid we know - with Cuban or Brazilian or Colombian heritage - had gotte. Into every T10 they’ve applied.

I don't get this! Blacks and Native Americans deserve all the set-asides, preferential treatments, etc. (within reason, of course), but why Hispanics, especially those that are not first-gen or poor???!!!??? Which idiot came up with that?

Current system is not based on SES but race and ethnicity.

I get that. But why preference for Hispanics? Why not for Chinese?

Historically underrepresented (URM) vs overrepresented (ORM)

It is fuzzy logic that helps Cuban, Brazilian or Columbians to get into T10 colleges as URMs. Also it should be URM - IHE. (Under Represented Minorities - In Higher Education).

It is not that they are URM in the criminal justice system, or food stamps, or teen pregnancies etc.

The URM hook is driven by federal reporting requirements

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every Hispanic kid we know - with Cuban or Brazilian or Colombian heritage - had gotte. Into every T10 they’ve applied.

I don't get this! Blacks and Native Americans deserve all the set-asides, preferential treatments, etc. (within reason, of course), but why Hispanics, especially those that are not first-gen or poor???!!!??? Which idiot came up with that?

Current system is not based on SES but race and ethnicity.

I get that. But why preference for Hispanics? Why not for Chinese?

Is this a serious question? Are Chinese a minority? Anywhere?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every Hispanic kid we know - with Cuban or Brazilian or Colombian heritage - had gotte. Into every T10 they’ve applied.

I don't get this! Blacks and Native Americans deserve all the set-asides, preferential treatments, etc. (within reason, of course), but why Hispanics, especially those that are not first-gen or poor???!!!??? Which idiot came up with that?

Current system is not based on SES but race and ethnicity.

I get that. But why preference for Hispanics? Why not for Chinese?

Is this a serious question? Are Chinese a minority? Anywhere?

New poster: there are definitely some American colleges where Asians are a minority and are considered URMs within the school’s demographic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Whites and Asians are overrepresented. Blacks and Hispanics are underrepresented.

Most colleges want a diverse campus.

Nothing has changed.

Diversity of thought?
How about neurodiversity?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whites and Asians are overrepresented. Blacks and Hispanics are underrepresented.

Most colleges want a diverse campus.

Nothing has changed.

Diversity of thought?
How about neurodiversity?

Neither diversity of thought nor neurodiversity are part of federal reporting requirements. See the Common Data Set.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:White families are trying to game the system by EDing a tier below.

How silly. ED isn't gaming, and I say that as someone whose kid didn't even apply anywhere that way. It's just an option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whites and Asians are overrepresented. Blacks and Hispanics are underrepresented.

Most colleges want a diverse campus.

Nothing has changed.

Diversity of thought?
How about neurodiversity?

Go to Hillsdale.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Intresting graphic and discussion in Jeff Selingo's newsletter today about application trends by race and ethnicity.

"At the most selective colleges—those that accept fewer than 25% of students—the number of applications from those who identify as Black/African-American are up 3.4% compared to last year, according to the latest report on application trends from the Common App.

Hispanic applicants are up even higher at the most selective schools, some 4.9%.

But applications to those colleges from students identifying as white dropped 5.8% over last year, while among Asian-American students they essentially remained flat.

The Common App attributed the big increase from last year to this year in "unknown," where applicants don't list their race/ethnicity, to an unexplained dip last year in this category over the previous year. Still, the proportion of applicants not listing their race/ethnicity has grown the most of all categories since 2019-20.

Some of the biggest increases across racial and ethnic groups were at colleges classified by the Common App as “more selective,” meaning they admit between 50% and 74% of applicants.

This group of institutions along with less selective colleges (admit >75%) have seen some of the larger jumps in apps in recent years, according to the Common App data.

That trend is likely a reflection that admission to top-ranked colleges has become nearly impossible, so students are applying to more institutions further downstream."

You do realize that Hispanics are one of the fastest growing demographics in the US? It would make sense that the % of Hispanic kids applying each year increases as the population increases.

[Anonymous]

My black DS gamed the system with his 4.8 wGPA, 1540 SAT score, and six years of ECs showing his passion for an unpopular but very difficult STEM field

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whites and Asians are overrepresented. Blacks and Hispanics are underrepresented.

Most colleges want a diverse campus.

Nothing has changed.

Diversity of thought?
How about neurodiversity?

Neither diversity of thought nor neurodiversity are part of federal reporting requirements. See the Common Data Set.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Intresting graphic and discussion in Jeff Selingo's newsletter today about application trends by race and ethnicity.

"At the most selective colleges—those that accept fewer than 25% of students—the number of applications from those who identify as Black/African-American are up 3.4% compared to last year, according to the latest report on application trends from the Common App.

Hispanic applicants are up even higher at the most selective schools, some 4.9%.

But applications to those colleges from students identifying as white dropped 5.8% over last year, while among Asian-American students they essentially remained flat.

The Common App attributed the big increase from last year to this year in "unknown," where applicants don't list their race/ethnicity, to an unexplained dip last year in this category over the previous year. Still, the proportion of applicants not listing their race/ethnicity has grown the most of all categories since 2019-20.

Some of the biggest increases across racial and ethnic groups were at colleges classified by the Common App as “more selective,” meaning they admit between 50% and 74% of applicants.

This group of institutions along with less selective colleges (admit >75%) have seen some of the larger jumps in apps in recent years, according to the Common App data.

That trend is likely a reflection that admission to top-ranked colleges has become nearly impossible, so students are applying to more institutions further downstream."

You do realize that Hispanics are one of the fastest growing demographics in the US? It would make sense that the % of Hispanic kids applying each year increases as the population increases.

+1

Growth in Hispanic population is why the U.S. will be a majority minority county in about 25 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whites and Asians are overrepresented. Blacks and Hispanics are underrepresented.

Most colleges want a diverse campus.

Nothing has changed.

Diversity of thought?
How about neurodiversity?

Neither diversity of thought nor neurodiversity are part of federal reporting requirements. See the Common Data Set.

reporting requirements have nothing to do with how diverse the college wants to be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My black DS gamed the system with his 4.8 wGPA, 1540 SAT score, and six years of ECs showing his passion for an unpopular but very difficult STEM field

If this is gaming the system, keep it up!