GEN Z will save America....

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Anonymous wrote:Meh, millennials are a bigger cohort and are turning red

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/01/upshot/millennials-polling-politics-republicans.html

Those rightward shifts among Millennials are tiny. The question is whether those rightward shifts will overwhelm the effects of Gen Zers reaching voting age. I strongly, strongly doubt that.

Yes, they will, because there are a lot more of them.

There are more Millennials, yes, but... that doesn't matter. What matters is whether the number of Millennials switching to Republicans is greater the number of Democratic Gen Zers reaching voting age. That's what I am doubting.

Newsflash. Young people are always liberal. Wait until they have kids, get real jobs, pay taxes, and have wealth. You think 18 year olds with Wendy's jobs and attending college have a clue how the world works. Lol, have you been to a college recently? They're clueless children. My wife just left her job at a university. The stupidity of college kids was astounding. So many were incapable of doing something as simple as opening up a bank account and filling out the paperwork to receive direct deposit in order to get paid from their on campus job. No wonder why a cohort that inept at the basics of life is easily duped by clownshows like AOC.

Actual newsflash: other than flaming both sideser Nate Cohn’s pro gop piece, Millennials aren’t getting more conservative as we age. Why would we? We’ve seen what the gop does, their lack of policies, their corruption and support of criminals. And some of us are even lucky enough to have gotten houses and kids and minivans and are caring for our aging Boomer parents. We’re getting more liberal.

+1. I'm a Millennial now with young kids and we're getting more liberal because the GOP is nuts. What do they have to offer or rather, what is their platform other than outrage and grievances? I was born in the early 1980s and have watched what this country has become over my lifetime under "free market capitalism". What are they doing to address rising inequality, rising housing costs, rising healthcare and education, unaffordable childcare costs, and my children's future with gun violence and climate change (you can deny it but good luck getting insurance coverage in all of those coastal markets)? What are they doing to fund long term infrastructure investments, Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid? What are they doing promote democracy both domestically and abroad? I don't need tax cuts. I need a well-functioning and fully funded government that is boring and normal. The New Deal worked for almost 50 years before it was systematically dismantled. Why don't we start making America Great Again and go back to high taxes, robust government investment and a strong social safety net.

This is it, exactly. Well said!

(Also a Millennial with a house and a kid and most certainly not becoming more conservative)

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It's sort of silly asking Millenials living in DC whether they are getting more conservative as they age. Of course not. Look at where they live. But does it matter in the end? Of course not. DC has 3 measly electoral votes and no representation. It does not matter how they vote.

WE should be looking at trends across the country, which do show a swing towards conservatism with age. And, of note, Hispanic voters more likely to vote R, which is an important trend given the increase in numbers.

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Anonymous wrote:GEN Z will save America.

Most of us will be voting for President for first time in November 2024. In 2022, we all showed up and saved you all and Dems kept the Senate, and only lose a few seats in the house, but now we want action. WE want REAL GUN CONTROL. We don't our kids to have go to though the same lockdowns and fears of a school shooting we had too.

We want college loan reforms.
We want living wage and want to buy a house one day.
We know it won't be done with soon, but we want it to be a work in process, meet us halfway please.

So you just want to steal stuff via government. You want to disarm citizens. How very authoritarian of you.

I'd point out the hypocrisy with actual concrete example of authoritarian by the other side but you're too dumb to argue with.

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Yawn. You are clearly a Gen Z since you don’t remember just a few short years ago the young Bernie Bros were going to propel the progressive agenda into power. Except no one turned up at the polls to vote.

Every election cycle young people like yourself think they are they have some special new plan and momentum. Yet they never mastery in the numbers. But let me guess, “this time it’s different”. We’ll see about that.

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Anonymous wrote:GEN Z will save America.

Most of us will be voting for President for first time in November 2024. In 2022, we all showed up and saved you all and Dems kept the Senate, and only lose a few seats in the house, but now we want action. WE want REAL GUN CONTROL. We don't our kids to have go to though the same lockdowns and fears of a school shooting we had too.

We want college loan reforms.
We want living wage and want to buy a house one day.
We know it won't be done with soon, but we want it to be a work in process, meet us halfway please.

So you just want to steal stuff via government. You want to disarm citizens. How very authoritarian of you.

+1000

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Anonymous wrote:Yawn. You are clearly a Gen Z since you don’t remember just a few short years ago the young Bernie Bros were going to propel the progressive agenda into power. Except no one turned up at the polls to vote.

Every election cycle young people like yourself think they are they have some special new plan and momentum. Yet they never mastery in the numbers. But let me guess, “this time it’s different”. We’ll see about that.

Well, Republicans died off in excess numbers during COVID. Also, old people overwhelmingly voted for Trump and 12-13 million will have died by 2024. So maybe this time is different.

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GenZ isn't saving anything unless internet outrage suddenly causes meaningful change. They bought 100% into the tech sector garbage.

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Anonymous wrote:It's sort of silly asking Millenials living in DC whether they are getting more conservative as they age. Of course not. Look at where they live. But does it matter in the end? Of course not. DC has 3 measly electoral votes and no representation. It does not matter how they vote.

WE should be looking at trends across the country, which do show a swing towards conservatism with age. And, of note, Hispanic voters more likely to vote R, which is an important trend given the increase in numbers.

Surely you have evidence of this swing?

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Anonymous wrote:It's sort of silly asking Millenials living in DC whether they are getting more conservative as they age. Of course not. Look at where they live. But does it matter in the end? Of course not. DC has 3 measly electoral votes and no representation. It does not matter how they vote.

WE should be looking at trends across the country, which do show a swing towards conservatism with age. And, of note, Hispanic voters more likely to vote R, which is an important trend given the increase in numbers.

Surely you have evidence of this swing?

This trend has been widely reported in national news media. Outlets such as politico and axios have written about Latinos moving to the GOP. Google is your friend.

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I hope they save us. Someone needs to because MAGA is a scourge

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Anonymous wrote:Yawn. You are clearly a Gen Z since you don’t remember just a few short years ago the young Bernie Bros were going to propel the progressive agenda into power. Except no one turned up at the polls to vote.

Every election cycle young people like yourself think they are they have some special new plan and momentum. Yet they never mastery in the numbers. But let me guess, “this time it’s different”. We’ll see about that.

Well, Republicans died off in excess numbers during COVID. Also, old people overwhelmingly voted for Trump and 12-13 million will have died by 2024. So maybe this time is different.

The problem is polling never captures the silent majority effectively. You all were shocked Hillary lost.

What they have a hard time detecting are how many potential voters are being swayed to vote against the Dems because of Biden’s inflation, open borders mass migration, fentanyl pouring into the country, out of control crime, people with penises playing sports with people with vaginas, shutting down of schools, etc. It’s going to be a rude awakening next year when you learn you can’t rely on 18-20 year olds, who are still in their mom’s basements smoking weed and playing video games, to vote.

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Anonymous wrote:It's sort of silly asking Millenials living in DC whether they are getting more conservative as they age. Of course not. Look at where they live. But does it matter in the end? Of course not. DC has 3 measly electoral votes and no representation. It does not matter how they vote.

WE should be looking at trends across the country, which do show a swing towards conservatism with age. And, of note, Hispanic voters more likely to vote R, which is an important trend given the increase in numbers.

Surely you have evidence of this swing?

This trend has been widely reported in national news media. Outlets such as politico and axios have written about Latinos moving to the GOP. Google is your friend.

Did they do that before or after the “red wave”?

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Anonymous wrote:Yawn. You are clearly a Gen Z since you don’t remember just a few short years ago the young Bernie Bros were going to propel the progressive agenda into power. Except no one turned up at the polls to vote.

Every election cycle young people like yourself think they are they have some special new plan and momentum. Yet they never mastery in the numbers. But let me guess, “this time it’s different”. We’ll see about that.

Well, Republicans died off in excess numbers during COVID. Also, old people overwhelmingly voted for Trump and 12-13 million will have died by 2024. So maybe this time is different.

The problem is polling never captures the silent majority effectively. You all were shocked Hillary lost.

What they have a hard time detecting are how many potential voters are being swayed to vote against the Dems because of Biden’s inflation, open borders mass migration, fentanyl pouring into the country, out of control crime, people with penises playing sports with people with vaginas, shutting down of schools, etc. It’s going to be a rude awakening next year when you learn you can’t rely on 18-20 year olds, who are still in their mom’s basements smoking weed and playing video games, to vote.

Polling was just about spot on in 2016. The key states that Trump ended up winning were comfortably within the margin of error.

We weren't shocked because the polls showed a landslide for Clinton and systematically excluded MAGAs and Independents who swung toward Trump but were too shy to talk about it to pollsters. That didn't happen. We were shocked because we couldn't believe that there were enough people in a few key swing states that were gullible and/or dumb enough to pull the lever for a conman whose presidency was very obviously going to be a trainwreck. We had more faith in our fellow countrymen. Alas, they did not return the favor.

The rest of your post only resonates with terminally addled Fox News viewers. Those of us living in the real world can see right through the distortion and contrived culture war claptrap. Perhaps after 2024 the GOP will finally understand that it has to excise the cancer that's eating away at the party (and our nation). But, knowing the GOP, they'll probably quadruple down and tell themselves "this time, it'll be different," much to the detriment of the country. Sad.

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Anonymous wrote:It's sort of silly asking Millenials living in DC whether they are getting more conservative as they age. Of course not. Look at where they live. But does it matter in the end? Of course not. DC has 3 measly electoral votes and no representation. It does not matter how they vote.

WE should be looking at trends across the country, which do show a swing towards conservatism with age. And, of note, Hispanic voters more likely to vote R, which is an important trend given the increase in numbers.

Surely you have evidence of this swing?

Do you not follow polling data? As a hispanic from Texas, I follow the data in Texas closely. Border counties (which are 95%+ hispanic) swung widely for Rs in both 2016 and 2020. Webb, Starr, Hidalgo, etc. swung by double digit margins. This is insane considering all counties went for HRC the prior election cycle by 60-65%. Texas is over 40% Hispanic and growing. Dems thought they could take the state and failed to consider that latino voters were not with them. And FL experienced the same shifts, though it already had a R base with the Cuban population. Now with the influx of VZ and more S American migrants escaping socialist regimes, there is significantly LESS chance that they would vote D when given the opportunity.

Ds have miscalculated the Hispanic vote and made some pretty crazy assumptions about what is largely a conservative, religious group.

"Trump ultimately won 14 of these 28 counties — eight of which he flipped from 2016 — with many more counties than Starr lurching to the right: Maverick County moved 46 points to the right, Zapata County moved 38 points, Webb County moved 28 points and Hidalgo County moved 23 points. Hidalgo, with around 871,000 people, is the most populous county in the border area (edging out El Paso County’s 866,000), which made its shift toward Trump especially impactful in terms of raw vote totals. To be clear, President Biden still won the overall vote across the border and South Texas counties by 17 points, but this was about half the margin Hillary Clinton had in 2016, when she won the region by 33 points." https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-democratic-gains-in-texass-big-metro-areas-could-outweigh-republican-success-in-south-texas/

And this article was wrong in the end thinking D gains in metro areas would move the needle in TX

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Anonymous wrote:Yawn. You are clearly a Gen Z since you don’t remember just a few short years ago the young Bernie Bros were going to propel the progressive agenda into power. Except no one turned up at the polls to vote.

Every election cycle young people like yourself think they are they have some special new plan and momentum. Yet they never mastery in the numbers. But let me guess, “this time it’s different”. We’ll see about that.

Well, Republicans died off in excess numbers during COVID. Also, old people overwhelmingly voted for Trump and 12-13 million will have died by 2024. So maybe this time is different.

The problem is polling never captures the silent majority effectively. You all were shocked Hillary lost.

What they have a hard time detecting are how many potential voters are being swayed to vote against the Dems because of Biden’s inflation, open borders mass migration, fentanyl pouring into the country, out of control crime, people with penises playing sports with people with vaginas, shutting down of schools, etc. It’s going to be a rude awakening next year when you learn you can’t rely on 18-20 year olds, who are still in their mom’s basements smoking weed and playing video games, to vote.

Polling was just about spot on in 2016. The key states that Trump ended up winning were comfortably within the margin of error.

We weren't shocked because the polls showed a landslide for Clinton and systematically excluded MAGAs and Independents who swung toward Trump but were too shy to talk about it to pollsters. That didn't happen. We were shocked because we couldn't believe that there were enough people in a few key swing states that were gullible and/or dumb enough to pull the lever for a conman whose presidency was very obviously going to be a trainwreck. We had more faith in our fellow countrymen. Alas, they did not return the favor.

The rest of your post only resonates with terminally addled Fox News viewers. Those of us living in the real world can see right through the distortion and contrived culture war claptrap. Perhaps after 2024 the GOP will finally understand that it has to excise the cancer that's eating away at the party (and our nation). But, knowing the GOP, they'll probably quadruple down and tell themselves "this time, it'll be different," much to the detriment of the country. Sad.

Nice dissertation.

I just think it is hilarious your strategy is going to be to rely on 18-20 years olds to vote. 😂