GEN Z will save America....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Meh, millennials are a bigger cohort and are turning red

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/01/upshot/mil...ics-republicans.html

This Gen Xer turns bluer every year. Not everyone gets conservative as they get older.

Go Gen Z!

Exactly! Some of us actually get wiser as we get older!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's sort of silly asking Millenials living in DC whether they are getting more conservative as they age. Of course not. Look at where they live. But does it matter in the end? Of course not. DC has 3 measly electoral votes and no representation. It does not matter how they vote.

WE should be looking at trends across the country, which do show a swing towards conservatism with age. And, of note, Hispanic voters more likely to vote R, which is an important trend given the increase in numbers.

While the website is “DC Urban Moms (and Dads),” you should understand this is a public site and many of us - and I’m one of the not getting more conservative Millennials in this thread - don’t live in DC. Where are you posting from, for example?

No matter. Millennials are staying liberal and Gen Z is aging into voting as covid and old age are beginning to reap their harvest of Boomers. The GOP and its voters have done everything they can to keep everything to themselves and to tell everyone younger than they are that it’s because of avocado toast and laziness that they don’t have the same wealth that their parents did at their ages while ignoring the fact that it’s the system the GOP has created. I can’t imagine why Millennials and Gen Z aren’t lining up with gusto to vote for the Republicans.

let me guess, you live in Silver Spring? lol. You - like most in metro DC, SF, LA, NYC - don't have your finger on the pulse of most of America. The system that the GOP has created? You do realize that Clinton was president for 8 years, Obama president for another 8, and during that time there were only 3 R presidents - with two being 1 term? It's been a pretty even pissing match. Life is expensive because we're overpopulated, and Millenials/GenZ like to cry that they don't have McMansions because that's what they see on SM. I'm GenX and lived in my fair share of cramped apartments and townhomes. I also paid off my own school loans by going to a cheap school. I have zero sympathy for the generations that refuse to work and want to live like digital nomads because "work-life balance". Take the balance but lose the money. That's how it works.

And yes, trends continue to show that GenX have swung R while Millenials are less likely to be D as they were in years past. The data is there and its not changing just because you don't read it.

DP. Do I have my finger on the pulse of Pissant County, Alabama? No; I'll freely concede that. But judging by your post, I have a better read on DC, SF, LA, NYC, etc Millennials and Gen Zers, and there's an order of magnitude (or two) more Millennial and Gen Z voters in DC, SF, LA, and NYC than in the rural "most of America."

And, nobody is disputing that there are more Millennial Rs than there were two decades ago, but what's indisputable is that the rightward shifts for Millennials and Gen Zers are less pronounced than they were for GenX and Boomers in years past. The data is there and not changing because you don't like it. Perhaps you should make more of an effort to get your finger on the pulse to figure out why!

Ho hum. And Ds seem to forget that these cities don't matter much. With the way that our current electoral system is set up, Pissant County, AL may well have more swing than any of the cities that you listed, which is why the Millennial shift that you conceded above matters so much. Dems want to concentrate in these cities, fine. But the electoral map doesn't favor that. I don't agree with it but here we are. So are millennial in these cities more liberal? Of course, but that's not the nationwide trend. And that shifts elections, particularly with TX and FL poised as the states to gain the most population with GA, NC, SC also gaining in numbers. Your read on DC, SF, LA, and NYC might be irrelevant.

We keep talking past each other so we may just have to agree to disagree. My point, which you seem intent on missing, is that Millennials - as a group - are not becoming more conservative as they age, at least to extent their GenX and Boomer forebears did. And, even though there is some rightward drift among Millennials, it is more than canceled out by Gen Zers reaching voting age.

As for whether the electoral map favors that, I grant you that California and New York are electorally locked-in for Democrats, but before you rush to pat yourself on the back, just look at Virginia, Georgia, North Carolina, and Arizona. These are fast-growing states with metros that Millennials and Gen Zers are moving to - NoVA, Atlanta, Charlotte, Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill, Phoenix, etc - and these states have transformed from reliably red to either reliably blue (in the case of VA) or very much in play when they weren't particularly competitive before (in the case of GA, NC, and AZ).

Anyway, we'll see soon enough. Cheers.

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Anonymous wrote:Meh, millennials are a bigger cohort and are turning red

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/01/upshot/mil...ics-republicans.html

Those rightward shifts among Millennials are tiny. The question is whether those rightward shifts will overwhelm the effects of Gen Zers reaching voting age. I strongly, strongly doubt that.

Yes, they will, because there are a lot more of them.

There are more Millennials, yes, but... that doesn't matter. What matters is whether the number of Millennials switching to Republicans is greater the number of Democratic Gen Zers reaching voting age. That's what I am doubting.

Millennials aren’t shifting toward Republicans as they age. Your party is so sh!tty that it has broken that paradigm.

https://www.ft.com/content/c361e372-769e-45cd-a063-f5c0a7767cf4

Buddy, reread my post. You're agreeing with me.

Apologies! I replied to the wrong post.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's sort of silly asking Millenials living in DC whether they are getting more conservative as they age. Of course not. Look at where they live. But does it matter in the end? Of course not. DC has 3 measly electoral votes and no representation. It does not matter how they vote.

WE should be looking at trends across the country, which do show a swing towards conservatism with age. And, of note, Hispanic voters more likely to vote R, which is an important trend given the increase in numbers.

While the website is “DC Urban Moms (and Dads),” you should understand this is a public site and many of us - and I’m one of the not getting more conservative Millennials in this thread - don’t live in DC. Where are you posting from, for example?

No matter. Millennials are staying liberal and Gen Z is aging into voting as covid and old age are beginning to reap their harvest of Boomers. The GOP and its voters have done everything they can to keep everything to themselves and to tell everyone younger than they are that it’s because of avocado toast and laziness that they don’t have the same wealth that their parents did at their ages while ignoring the fact that it’s the system the GOP has created. I can’t imagine why Millennials and Gen Z aren’t lining up with gusto to vote for the Republicans.

let me guess, you live in Silver Spring? lol. You - like most in metro DC, SF, LA, NYC - don't have your finger on the pulse of most of America. The system that the GOP has created? You do realize that Clinton was president for 8 years, Obama president for another 8, and during that time there were only 3 R presidents - with two being 1 term? It's been a pretty even pissing match. Life is expensive because we're overpopulated, and Millenials/GenZ like to cry that they don't have McMansions because that's what they see on SM. I'm GenX and lived in my fair share of cramped apartments and townhomes. I also paid off my own school loans by going to a cheap school. I have zero sympathy for the generations that refuse to work and want to live like digital nomads because "work-life balance". Take the balance but lose the money. That's how it works.

And yes, trends continue to show that GenX have swung R while Millenials are less likely to be D as they were in years past. The data is there and its not changing just because you don't read it.

Lol, no, I’m not even on the eastern seaboard.

The rest of your post is GOP blinkered nonsense. The Democrats spent almost all their time in office having to fight with… the GOP. On everything. And we’re in a worse place for it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's sort of silly asking Millenials living in DC whether they are getting more conservative as they age. Of course not. Look at where they live. But does it matter in the end? Of course not. DC has 3 measly electoral votes and no representation. It does not matter how they vote.

WE should be looking at trends across the country, which do show a swing towards conservatism with age. And, of note, Hispanic voters more likely to vote R, which is an important trend given the increase in numbers.

While the website is “DC Urban Moms (and Dads),” you should understand this is a public site and many of us - and I’m one of the not getting more conservative Millennials in this thread - don’t live in DC. Where are you posting from, for example?

No matter. Millennials are staying liberal and Gen Z is aging into voting as covid and old age are beginning to reap their harvest of Boomers. The GOP and its voters have done everything they can to keep everything to themselves and to tell everyone younger than they are that it’s because of avocado toast and laziness that they don’t have the same wealth that their parents did at their ages while ignoring the fact that it’s the system the GOP has created. I can’t imagine why Millennials and Gen Z aren’t lining up with gusto to vote for the Republicans.

let me guess, you live in Silver Spring? lol. You - like most in metro DC, SF, LA, NYC - don't have your finger on the pulse of most of America. The system that the GOP has created? You do realize that Clinton was president for 8 years, Obama president for another 8, and during that time there were only 3 R presidents - with two being 1 term? It's been a pretty even pissing match. Life is expensive because we're overpopulated, and Millenials/GenZ like to cry that they don't have McMansions because that's what they see on SM. I'm GenX and lived in my fair share of cramped apartments and townhomes. I also paid off my own school loans by going to a cheap school. I have zero sympathy for the generations that refuse to work and want to live like digital nomads because "work-life balance". Take the balance but lose the money. That's how it works.

And yes, trends continue to show that GenX have swung R while Millenials are less likely to be D as they were in years past. The data is there and its not changing just because you don't read it.

The president is not a part of the legislative branch. Republican reps have blocked everything they could just to kill government.

[Anonymous]

Abortion, abortion, abortion.

Young people understand how screwed over they will be if they don't have full access to reproductive healthcare.

As more and more women have dire health outcomes even for WANTED pregnancies, this will become an avalanche of losses for Republicans.

Just ask Ireland.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Abortion, abortion, abortion.

Young people understand how screwed over they will be if they don't have full access to reproductive healthcare.

As more and more women have dire health outcomes even for WANTED pregnancies, this will become an avalanche of losses for Republicans.

Just ask Ireland.

The moms and dads of gen Z understand the same and we are boomers and gen x and even millennials. The GOP is a terrible choice for our future generations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are not paying off your college loans in exchange for you voting blue.

+1000
What a whiny OP. Pay your own damn loans.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Meh, millennials are a bigger cohort and are turning red

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/01/upshot/mil...ics-republicans.html

Those rightward shifts among Millennials are tiny. The question is whether those rightward shifts will overwhelm the effects of Gen Zers reaching voting age. I strongly, strongly doubt that.

Yes, they will, because there are a lot more of them.

There are more Millennials, yes, but... that doesn't matter. What matters is whether the number of Millennials switching to Republicans is greater the number of Democratic Gen Zers reaching voting age. That's what I am doubting.

Newsflash. Young people are always liberal. Wait until they have kids, get real jobs, pay taxes, and have wealth. You think 18 year olds with Wendy's jobs and attending college have a clue how the world works. Lol, have you been to a college recently? They're clueless children. My wife just left her job at a university. The stupidity of college kids was astounding. So many were incapable of doing something as simple as opening up a bank account and filling out the paperwork to receive direct deposit in order to get paid from their on campus job. No wonder why a cohort that inept at the basics of life is easily duped by clownshows like AOC.

+1
I was a die-hard liberal Democrat during college and my 20s. Then I had a family and gradually have become more conservative. There is no way I would vote for a current Democrat. Bill Clinton was the last true moderate - there's no one like him anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Abortion, abortion, abortion.

Young people understand how screwed over they will be if they don't have full access to reproductive healthcare.

As more and more women have dire health outcomes even for WANTED pregnancies, this will become an avalanche of losses for Republicans.

Just ask Ireland.

The GOP is willing to go down over this issue for some stupid reason. It makes no sense. Their champion does not even really care about this issue and absolutely no one would be surprised if DT financed several abortions over the years

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Abortion, abortion, abortion.

Young people understand how screwed over they will be if they don't have full access to reproductive healthcare.

As more and more women have dire health outcomes even for WANTED pregnancies, this will become an avalanche of losses for Republicans.

Just ask Ireland.

And it's not just young women. Young women are going to think twice about casual relationships if abortion isn't an option. It affects young men too. Hell, I know a ton of married folks where the husband is getting snipped because of this.

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Anonymous wrote:Meh, millennials are a bigger cohort and are turning red

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/01/upshot/mil...ics-republicans.html

Those rightward shifts among Millennials are tiny. The question is whether those rightward shifts will overwhelm the effects of Gen Zers reaching voting age. I strongly, strongly doubt that.

Yes, they will, because there are a lot more of them.

There are more Millennials, yes, but... that doesn't matter. What matters is whether the number of Millennials switching to Republicans is greater the number of Democratic Gen Zers reaching voting age. That's what I am doubting.

Newsflash. Young people are always liberal. Wait until they have kids, get real jobs, pay taxes, and have wealth. You think 18 year olds with Wendy's jobs and attending college have a clue how the world works. Lol, have you been to a college recently? They're clueless children. My wife just left her job at a university. The stupidity of college kids was astounding. So many were incapable of doing something as simple as opening up a bank account and filling out the paperwork to receive direct deposit in order to get paid from their on campus job. No wonder why a cohort that inept at the basics of life is easily duped by clownshows like AOC.

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I was a die-hard liberal Democrat during college and my 20s. Then I had a family and gradually have become more conservative. There is no way I would vote for a current Democrat. Bill Clinton was the last true moderate - there's no one like him anymore.

You were never a Democrat and you're not a conservative. Or at least you're not voting largely for conservatives. The current GOP is comprised of right wing reactionaries. There's nothing conservative about them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Meh, millennials are a bigger cohort and are turning red

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/01/upshot/mil...ics-republicans.html

Those rightward shifts among Millennials are tiny. The question is whether those rightward shifts will overwhelm the effects of Gen Zers reaching voting age. I strongly, strongly doubt that.

Yes, they will, because there are a lot more of them.

There are more Millennials, yes, but... that doesn't matter. What matters is whether the number of Millennials switching to Republicans is greater the number of Democratic Gen Zers reaching voting age. That's what I am doubting.

Newsflash. Young people are always liberal. Wait until they have kids, get real jobs, pay taxes, and have wealth. You think 18 year olds with Wendy's jobs and attending college have a clue how the world works. Lol, have you been to a college recently? They're clueless children. My wife just left her job at a university. The stupidity of college kids was astounding. So many were incapable of doing something as simple as opening up a bank account and filling out the paperwork to receive direct deposit in order to get paid from their on campus job. No wonder why a cohort that inept at the basics of life is easily duped by clownshows like AOC.

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I was a die-hard liberal Democrat during college and my 20s. Then I had a family and gradually have become more conservative. There is no way I would vote for a current Democrat. Bill Clinton was the last true moderate - there's no one like him anymore.

How do the Democrats interfere with your "family?"

So stupid.

I am 62. Liberal from my teens all the way until now.

Being "conservative" is just another way of saying you are selfish.

[Anonymous]

Go Gen Z!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Go Gen Z!

God, please do, Gen Z. I'm a Millennial parent and was explaining to my son today how screwed we are on climate change and how we (Milennials) are only starting to have a bit of power to do anything about it. It's so, so frustrating that the Silent Generation and Boomers are still dictating our futures -- ones that they'll never be a part of.