So what is changing? Questions about SC affirmative action decision

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do they keep trying to make diversity a goal, it's not the 90s anymore we should be looking for the best and brightest.

Diversity makes everyone smarter and stronger (mentally). I don't need to be in a class with 30 other people just like me. I want to learn from other people's experiences and perspectives. And I want that for my kids as well. This is true in engineering as well as humanities. You don't know what you haven't lived.

2 + 2 = 5

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What's changing is that pretty soon the parents on this board will have lost one of their favorite reasons for why their mediocre kid didn't get into an ivy league school.

Ivy rejects will have plenty options elsewhere. There are T20, T30, T40 schools. They will be fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do they keep trying to make diversity a goal, it's not the 90s anymore we should be looking for the best and brightest.

Diversity makes everyone smarter and stronger (mentally). I don't need to be in a class with 30 other people just like me. I want to learn from other people's experiences and perspectives. And I want that for my kids as well. This is true in engineering as well as humanities. You don't know what you haven't lived.

We don't need artifical forced diversity any more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do they keep trying to make diversity a goal, it's not the 90s anymore we should be looking for the best and brightest.

Diversity makes everyone smarter and stronger (mentally). I don't need to be in a class with 30 other people just like me. I want to learn from other people's experiences and perspectives. And I want that for my kids as well. This is true in engineering as well as humanities. You don't know what you haven't lived.

I bet PP lives in a lily-white segregated section of the DMV area. PP would never think of moving into the "diverse" part of the neighborhood where his or her kids must attend schools with diversity students.

[Anonymous]

More Asians?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How soon until all Chinese high schools rename all their students names like John and Sydney Evans?

Why are people mixed up with international students?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's really no way to make this race neutral unless names are masked.

🙄 DCUM thinks every black person is named Shawntavious Jackson and every white is named Wentworth Vanderbilt or something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do they keep trying to make diversity a goal, it's not the 90s anymore we should be looking for the best and brightest.

Diversity makes everyone smarter and stronger (mentally). I don't need to be in a class with 30 other people just like me. I want to learn from other people's experiences and perspectives. And I want that for my kids as well. This is true in engineering as well as humanities. You don't know what you haven't lived.

I bet PP lives in a lily-white segregated section of the DMV area. PP would never think of moving into the "diverse" part of the neighborhood where his or her kids must attend schools with diversity students.

I'm sure PP sends their kid a high farms rate diverse school so that they can learn from those how are different from them

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, the race box will go away.

Doubt it because universities still have to track race per DOE. Also, eliminating the box will prevent the ability to determine if non-URM applicants are being discriminated against.

Most likely race info will be masked in the admissions process.

It can be done upon enrollment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just look to California to see where the nation is headed. Caltech and the UC System are world class because they don't pander to PC. UC Berkeley rivals Stanford precisely for this reason.

NP. Clarification, UC is perpetually embroiled in an internal PC tug-of-war. See, e.g., the regents' fight over test optional before being forced test blind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do they keep trying to make diversity a goal, it's not the 90s anymore we should be looking for the best and brightest.

Diversity makes everyone smarter and stronger (mentally). I don't need to be in a class with 30 other people just like me. I want to learn from other people's experiences and perspectives. And I want that for my kids as well. This is true in engineering as well as humanities. You don't know what you haven't lived.

I bet PP lives in a lily-white segregated section of the DMV area. PP would never think of moving into the "diverse" part of the neighborhood where his or her kids must attend schools with diversity students.

I'm sure PP sends their kid a high farms rate diverse school so that they can learn from those how are different from them

Oh yes, no doubt they are following the footsteps of the Clinton who are masters of PC. When it came time for them to send Chelsea to school, they sent her to Sidwell Friends. From there, to Stanford, Columbia, and Oxford.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do they keep trying to make diversity a goal, it's not the 90s anymore we should be looking for the best and brightest.

Diversity makes everyone smarter and stronger (mentally). I don't need to be in a class with 30 other people just like me. I want to learn from other people's experiences and perspectives. And I want that for my kids as well. This is true in engineering as well as humanities. You don't know what you haven't lived.

As Thomas noted in his concurrence, nobody (not even Harvard in this case) has been able to explain or quantify any educational benefit from diversity.

And in engineering, diversity is totally irrelevant. The bridge stays up, the plane flies, or not, regardless of the race of the engineer who designed them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one knows. Just apply and see what happens. Too much hand-wringing in this forum.

“Just apply” where? How do you build a list if you have no idea what colleges are looking for?

Yes, you do have a good idea if you are smart. Good grades, rigorous course selection, Submit SAT/ACT if you want but dont if you do not want to, ECs, good LOR, leadership, genuine leadership and commitment to making the world a better place, etc.
Whatever you do, do it because you love it and will still be happy if you end up at a school in the 40s/50s+, don't just do it to get into college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do they keep trying to make diversity a goal, it's not the 90s anymore we should be looking for the best and brightest.

Diversity makes everyone smarter and stronger (mentally). I don't need to be in a class with 30 other people just like me. I want to learn from other people's experiences and perspectives. And I want that for my kids as well. This is true in engineering as well as humanities. You don't know what you haven't lived.

We don't need artifical forced diversity any more.

I agree (that is, if I am allowed to agree with you).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just look to California to see where the nation is headed. Caltech and the UC System are world class because they don't pander to PC. UC Berkeley rivals Stanford precisely for this reason.

Does PC= politically correct or people of color?

Regardless, UC’s are world class and have more diversity than any other major university system. White students are a minority making up 20% or so of the population at UCLA and Berkeley. White college-age and high school-age students are a minority in CA, so the 20% figure isn’t strange. The UC system’s priority is delivering a superior education to a state population that is diverse and multiethnic.