s/o - Cheating and Checking Diversity boxes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My take: Asians have pretty good cause to worry about fairness in the system, but the rest of us - especially white folks - should just STFU. You’re fine. You’ve caught every break under the sun since Columbus killed the natives. It’s time to share the wealth.

Also, sports recruitment is a huge boost for white kids. Go look at the team photos for the sports teams at top universities, colleges (including SLACS). They are not only very white, but they are also a boost to kids who come from wealthier backgrounds. Look at the schools these kids attended—primarily wealthy, affluent suburbs and independent schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Where does the ethnicity stop, though? I'm always so confused about this. I'm 1/2 hispanic via my mother who is 100%. I've always just checked "white" for my kids recognizing that they are more white than hispanic. But am I wrong? My DH is not technically white but there's no box for him.

You’re fretting and overstating the importance of this. When it comes to diversity outreach, the main focus is now and long has been on African Americans. As it should be, since this country has screwed them over in unimaginable ways for hundreds of years. All of this other stuff is just noise. None of you is being denied anything.

Once the liberals opened the Pandora’s Box of racial spoils there was no putting the troubles back in. They said “this race should get this and that because reasons” and the obvious and predictable consequence was other races trying to see what they could also get, because reasons. You can try and dismiss everyone else and tell them to shut up but it’s not going to happen.

Colleges should require high-re pictures and conduct detailed analysis of skin pigmentation to root out this unethical behavior.

But as we know, the American rule is “just one drop” makes you diverse, and this cannot necessarily be detected by photos. Everyone will have to submit a detailed genealogy going back many generations!

I'm Asian but 23 and me says I have African and Native American "drops".

I think I'll apply the one drop rule for my family too. Oh wait, they'll say that a black person's one drop caused discrimination against their ancestors so race based affirmative action in 2022 is some sort of absolution of sin type of redemption.

And the discrimination against my kids in 2022 is all in my head.

Your ignorance is appalling. The “one drop of blood” doctrine is not about diversity. It was the doctrine in Jim Crow America that the oppressive restrictions on Black people should also apply to mixed race people.

You’ve demonstrated that you really are too ignorant to opine about race in America.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I truly doubt that there's a statistically significant number of applicants who are lying about their race or ethnicity. The social stigma attached to lying about something like this - much less the consequences if it was revealed - is just too severe. It sounds crazy to presume that there can be self-policing in such an absurd process, but I really think it's the case.

I wish you were correct but in reality you are not. You are quite naive.

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Anonymous wrote:I truly doubt that there's a statistically significant number of applicants who are lying about their race or ethnicity. The social stigma attached to lying about something like this - much less the consequences if it was revealed - is just too severe. It sounds crazy to presume that there can be self-policing in such an absurd process, but I really think it's the case.

I wish you were correct but in reality you are not. You are quite naive.

Oh, really? Please share your “facts” with us.

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Anonymous wrote:I truly doubt that there's a statistically significant number of applicants who are lying about their race or ethnicity. The social stigma attached to lying about something like this - much less the consequences if it was revealed - is just too severe. It sounds crazy to presume that there can be self-policing in such an absurd process, but I really think it's the case.

I wish you were correct but in reality you are not. You are quite naive.

Oh, really? Please share your “facts” with us.

Why are you getting angry at me PP? My own child was honest and checked the accurate box on her applications. But there are more than most realize who are not. Tear me apart if you like but I can not reveal how I know.

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Anonymous wrote:I truly doubt that there's a statistically significant number of applicants who are lying about their race or ethnicity. The social stigma attached to lying about something like this - much less the consequences if it was revealed - is just too severe. It sounds crazy to presume that there can be self-policing in such an absurd process, but I really think it's the case.

I wish you were correct but in reality you are not. You are quite naive.

Oh, really? Please share your “facts” with us.

Why are you getting angry at me PP? My own child was honest and checked the accurate box on her applications. But there are more than most realize who are not. Tear me apart if you like but I can not reveal how I know.

You can’t reveal how you know for one simple reason: you don’t know. You’re not in any greater of a position to know than anyone else. And no one on these thread really knows. It’s all speculation.

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Anonymous wrote:Where does the ethnicity stop, though? I'm always so confused about this. I'm 1/2 hispanic via my mother who is 100%. I've always just checked "white" for my kids recognizing that they are more white than hispanic. But am I wrong? My DH is not technically white but there's no box for him.

You’re fretting and overstating the importance of this. When it comes to diversity outreach, the main focus is now and long has been on African Americans. As it should be, since this country has screwed them over in unimaginable ways for hundreds of years. All of this other stuff is just noise. None of you is being denied anything.

Once the liberals opened the Pandora’s Box of racial spoils there was no putting the troubles back in. They said “this race should get this and that because reasons” and the obvious and predictable consequence was other races trying to see what they could also get, because reasons. You can try and dismiss everyone else and tell them to shut up but it’s not going to happen.

Colleges should require high-re pictures and conduct detailed analysis of skin pigmentation to root out this unethical behavior.

But as we know, the American rule is “just one drop” makes you diverse, and this cannot necessarily be detected by photos. Everyone will have to submit a detailed genealogy going back many generations!

I'm Asian but 23 and me says I have African and Native American "drops".

I think I'll apply the one drop rule for my family too. Oh wait, they'll say that a black person's one drop caused discrimination against their ancestors so race based affirmative action in 2022 is some sort of absolution of sin type of redemption.

And the discrimination against my kids in 2022 is all in my head.

Your ignorance is appalling. The “one drop of blood” doctrine is not about diversity. It was the doctrine in Jim Crow America that the oppressive restrictions on Black people should also apply to mixed race people.

You’ve demonstrated that you really are too ignorant to opine about race in America.

Old racism, new racism, it's still racism.

Time to drop the whole race thing and make progress.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Seriously, why are white people so angry?

I’m white and have a story of overcoming adversity that is so compelling that I could write a book. But, even I know that my whiteness has afforded me unfair advantage and privilege. Nothing could be more obvious in this country. I don’t understand how other white people can’t see it.

You sound angry, and quite ignorant. Travelled much outside the US?

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Anonymous wrote:Where does the ethnicity stop, though? I'm always so confused about this. I'm 1/2 hispanic via my mother who is 100%. I've always just checked "white" for my kids recognizing that they are more white than hispanic. But am I wrong? My DH is not technically white but there's no box for him.

You’re fretting and overstating the importance of this. When it comes to diversity outreach, the main focus is now and long has been on African Americans. As it should be, since this country has screwed them over in unimaginable ways for hundreds of years. All of this other stuff is just noise. None of you is being denied anything.

Once the liberals opened the Pandora’s Box of racial spoils there was no putting the troubles back in. They said “this race should get this and that because reasons” and the obvious and predictable consequence was other races trying to see what they could also get, because reasons. You can try and dismiss everyone else and tell them to shut up but it’s not going to happen.

Colleges should require high-re pictures and conduct detailed analysis of skin pigmentation to root out this unethical behavior.

But as we know, the American rule is “just one drop” makes you diverse, and this cannot necessarily be detected by photos. Everyone will have to submit a detailed genealogy going back many generations!

Let's do it!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously, why are white people so angry?

I’m white and have a story of overcoming adversity that is so compelling that I could write a book. But, even I know that my whiteness has afforded me unfair advantage and privilege. Nothing could be more obvious in this country. I don’t understand how other white people can’t see it.

You sound angry, and quite ignorant. Travelled much outside the US?

Are you sure you are replying to the right post? I’m not angry in the slightest. As I said, I RECOGNIZE my white privilege and don’t begrudge higher education’s diversity efforts at all. Neither do/did my white children.

And, yes, I’ve travelled all over the world and back. Many times.

I think you completely misunderstood my post.

[Anonymous]

Is it worth being the potential of being "outed" on social media? What if your kid was found out? Yikes.

[Anonymous]

Perhaps the form should just ask how someone identifies in terms of race. That way it is an individual decision on what box to check (understanding it may be fluid).

Don't know why all the posters are focused on biology and ancestry.

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Anonymous wrote:Where does the ethnicity stop, though? I'm always so confused about this. I'm 1/2 hispanic via my mother who is 100%. I've always just checked "white" for my kids recognizing that they are more white than hispanic. But am I wrong? My DH is not technically white but there's no box for him.

You’re fretting and overstating the importance of this. When it comes to diversity outreach, the main focus is now and long has been on African Americans. As it should be, since this country has screwed them over in unimaginable ways for hundreds of years. All of this other stuff is just noise. None of you is being denied anything.

Once the liberals opened the Pandora’s Box of racial spoils there was no putting the troubles back in. They said “this race should get this and that because reasons” and the obvious and predictable consequence was other races trying to see what they could also get, because reasons. You can try and dismiss everyone else and tell them to shut up but it’s not going to happen.

Colleges should require high-re pictures and conduct detailed analysis of skin pigmentation to root out this unethical behavior.

But as we know, the American rule is “just one drop” makes you diverse, and this cannot necessarily be detected by photos. Everyone will have to submit a detailed genealogy going back many generations!

I'm Asian but 23 and me says I have African and Native American "drops".

I think I'll apply the one drop rule for my family too. Oh wait, they'll say that a black person's one drop caused discrimination against their ancestors so race based affirmative action in 2022 is some sort of absolution of sin type of redemption.

And the discrimination against my kids in 2022 is all in my head.

Your ignorance is appalling. The “one drop of blood” doctrine is not about diversity. It was the doctrine in Jim Crow America that the oppressive restrictions on Black people should also apply to mixed race people.

You’ve demonstrated that you really are too ignorant to opine about race in America.

See bolded. You've demonstrated you lack reading comprehension skills.

[Anonymous]

When colleges create incentives, parents and students will respond to those incentives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps the form should just ask how someone identifies in terms of race. That way it is an individual decision on what box to check (understanding it may be fluid).

Don't know why all the posters are focused on biology and ancestry.

Because that is what race is? What exactly is your question?