s/o - Cheating and Checking Diversity boxes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where does the ethnicity stop, though? I'm always so confused about this. I'm 1/2 hispanic via my mother who is 100%. I've always just checked "white" for my kids recognizing that they are more white than hispanic. But am I wrong? My DH is not technically white but there's no box for him.

You should check Hispanic for your kids. It’s doing them a disservice not to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where does the ethnicity stop, though? I'm always so confused about this. I'm 1/2 hispanic via my mother who is 100%. I've always just checked "white" for my kids recognizing that they are more white than hispanic. But am I wrong? My DH is not technically white but there's no box for him.

Hispanic all the way.

Most Hispanics are either white or white/native, something like 50/50 in last Census if I recall correctly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think this is risky business. If AO senses the lie, it would result in outright rejection.

AOs do not have genealogy charts. Especially if it matches the high school records, you are fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where does the ethnicity stop, though? I'm always so confused about this. I'm 1/2 hispanic via my mother who is 100%. I've always just checked "white" for my kids recognizing that they are more white than hispanic. But am I wrong? My DH is not technically white but there's no box for him.

You should check Hispanic for your kids. It’s doing them a disservice not to.

With the recognition that any effect that checking either box will be marginal at best. You all act like it’s buying an Easy Pass at Disney.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where does the ethnicity stop, though? I'm always so confused about this. I'm 1/2 hispanic via my mother who is 100%. I've always just checked "white" for my kids recognizing that they are more white than hispanic. But am I wrong? My DH is not technically white but there's no box for him.

Hispanic all the way.

Most Hispanics are either white or white/native, something like 50/50 in last Census if I recall correctly.

Noted. I have also done white but may rethink moving forward. For myself, I always check "white" (except on medical intakes) because I assumed that they were asking for recent immigrants or those that were marginalized hispanics, which I am not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where does the ethnicity stop, though? I'm always so confused about this. I'm 1/2 hispanic via my mother who is 100%. I've always just checked "white" for my kids recognizing that they are more white than hispanic. But am I wrong? My DH is not technically white but there's no box for him.

Hispanic all the way.

Most Hispanics are either white or white/native, something like 50/50 in last Census if I recall correctly.

Noted. I have also done white but may rethink moving forward. For myself, I always check "white" (except on medical intakes) because I assumed that they were asking for recent immigrants or those that were marginalized hispanics, which I am not.

That's not the criteria at all. You're Hispanic (ethnicity) and white (race).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where does the ethnicity stop, though? I'm always so confused about this. I'm 1/2 hispanic via my mother who is 100%. I've always just checked "white" for my kids recognizing that they are more white than hispanic. But am I wrong? My DH is not technically white but there's no box for him.

My kids are white from me, mixed Asian/white from DH. For now (they're young), I always select "prefer not to specify" since I feel like claiming they're Asian is a bit tenuous at this point but I don't want to deny that heritage either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where does the ethnicity stop, though? I'm always so confused about this. I'm 1/2 hispanic via my mother who is 100%. I've always just checked "white" for my kids recognizing that they are more white than hispanic. But am I wrong? My DH is not technically white but there's no box for him.

My kids are white from me, mixed Asian/white from DH. For now (they're young), I always select "prefer not to specify" since I feel like claiming they're Asian is a bit tenuous at this point but I don't want to deny that heritage either.

Marking Asian would make it MUCH HARDER for them to be admitted.

Don't.

[Anonymous]

OP,

You are suggesting that this is a widespread strategy.

It is not.

I have a White-Asian senior, who also has a 504 plan with an extended time accommodation that he's had since Kindergarten, and which is very much needed.

NO ONE I know has ever so much as hinted they would lie on their college applications.

You are harming the people who check those boxes in good faith by making such wild claims.

Shame on you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where does the ethnicity stop, though? I'm always so confused about this. I'm 1/2 hispanic via my mother who is 100%. I've always just checked "white" for my kids recognizing that they are more white than hispanic. But am I wrong? My DH is not technically white but there's no box for him.

My kids are white from me, mixed Asian/white from DH. For now (they're young), I always select "prefer not to specify" since I feel like claiming they're Asian is a bit tenuous at this point but I don't want to deny that heritage either.

Marking Asian would make it MUCH HARDER for them to be admitted.

Don't.

By the time they're applying to colleges, it will be their choice what they want to identify as. But yes, I'm intentionally not creating a paper trail one way or another so they get to make that choice for themselves. It's a weird situation for mixed race kids, especially when there are multiple generations of mixed race.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
OP,

You are suggesting that this is a widespread strategy.

It is not.

I have a White-Asian senior, who also has a 504 plan with an extended time accommodation that he's had since Kindergarten, and which is very much needed.

NO ONE I know has ever so much as hinted they would lie on their college applications.

You are harming the people who check those boxes in good faith by making such wild claims.

Shame on you.


I'd say 34% is pretty widespread, and that number is probably understated due to respondents not wanting to admit lying:

https://www.intelligent.com/34-of-white-college-students-lied-about-their-race-to-improve-chances-of-admission-financial-aid-benefits/#:~:text=The%20survey%20found%20that%2034,of%20getting%20accepted%20(81%25).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where does the ethnicity stop, though? I'm always so confused about this. I'm 1/2 hispanic via my mother who is 100%. I've always just checked "white" for my kids recognizing that they are more white than hispanic. But am I wrong? My DH is not technically white but there's no box for him.

You’re fretting and overstating the importance of this. When it comes to diversity outreach, the main focus is now and long has been on African Americans. As it should be, since this country has screwed them over in unimaginable ways for hundreds of years. All of this other stuff is just noise. None of you is being denied anything.

Once the liberals opened the Pandora’s Box of racial spoils there was no putting the troubles back in. They said “this race should get this and that because reasons” and the obvious and predictable consequence was other races trying to see what they could also get, because reasons. You can try and dismiss everyone else and tell them to shut up but it’s not going to happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where does the ethnicity stop, though? I'm always so confused about this. I'm 1/2 hispanic via my mother who is 100%. I've always just checked "white" for my kids recognizing that they are more white than hispanic. But am I wrong? My DH is not technically white but there's no box for him.

My kids are white from me, mixed Asian/white from DH. For now (they're young), I always select "prefer not to specify" since I feel like claiming they're Asian is a bit tenuous at this point but I don't want to deny that heritage either.

Marking Asian would make it MUCH HARDER for them to be admitted.

Don't.

By the time they're applying to colleges, it will be their choice what they want to identify as. But yes, I'm intentionally not creating a paper trail one way or another so they get to make that choice for themselves. It's a weird situation for mixed race kids, especially when there are multiple generations of mixed race.

Yes, it is very weird. We are applying to today's world some racist thinking from centuries ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
OP,

You are suggesting that this is a widespread strategy.

It is not.

I have a White-Asian senior, who also has a 504 plan with an extended time accommodation that he's had since Kindergarten, and which is very much needed.

NO ONE I know has ever so much as hinted they would lie on their college applications.

You are harming the people who check those boxes in good faith by making such wild claims.

Shame on you.


I'd say 34% is pretty widespread, and that number is probably understated due to respondents not wanting to admit lying:

https://www.intelligent.com/34-of-white-college-students-lied-about-their-race-to-improve-chances-of-admission-financial-aid-benefits/#:~:text=The%20survey%20found%20that%2034,of%20getting%20accepted%20(81%25).

Fascinating link.

Sen. Warren, this one is for you: "Native American most popular minority status to claim"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where does the ethnicity stop, though? I'm always so confused about this. I'm 1/2 hispanic via my mother who is 100%. I've always just checked "white" for my kids recognizing that they are more white than hispanic. But am I wrong? My DH is not technically white but there's no box for him.

You’re fretting and overstating the importance of this. When it comes to diversity outreach, the main focus is now and long has been on African Americans. As it should be, since this country has screwed them over in unimaginable ways for hundreds of years. All of this other stuff is just noise. None of you is being denied anything.

Once the liberals opened the Pandora’s Box of racial spoils there was no putting the troubles back in. They said “this race should get this and that because reasons” and the obvious and predictable consequence was other races trying to see what they could also get, because reasons. You can try and dismiss everyone else and tell them to shut up but it’s not going to happen.

Colleges should require high-re pictures and conduct detailed analysis of skin pigmentation to root out this unethical behavior.