s/o - Cheating and Checking Diversity boxes

[Anonymous]

From the thread about cheating via extended time, some mentioned that white/Asian students are being coached to check the box that they are black or Hispanic.

Is this really what our college application system has become? I cannot imagine anyone that I know doing this. And doesn’t the high school guidance counselor have to review the application and verify information anyway?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From the thread about cheating via extended time, some mentioned that white/Asian students are being coached to check the box that they are black or Hispanic.

Is this really what our college application system has become? I cannot imagine anyone that I know doing this. And doesn’t the high school guidance counselor have to review the application and verify information anyway?

Not typically, no

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From the thread about cheating via extended time, some mentioned that white/Asian students are being coached to check the box that they are black or Hispanic.

Is this really what our college application system has become? I cannot imagine anyone that I know doing this. And doesn’t the high school guidance counselor have to review the application and verify information anyway?

Yes

[Anonymous]

I am quite sure this is not as widespread as the pyschos on this board suggest.

[Anonymous]

There is no verification for race when you register your child for school in k-12. Anyone can check the black or Hispanic box when you register your child and the school must accept it. Or you can go into the school office at any time and change your child’s race in the front office. Seems like the school must accept it at face value.

I don’t know why more parents don’t realize this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is no verification for race when you register your child for school in k-12. Anyone can check the black or Hispanic box when you register your child and the school must accept it. Or you can go into the school office at any time and change your child’s race in the front office. Seems like the school must accept it at face value.

I don’t know why more parents don’t realize this.

Perhaps people realize it but have a sense of decency and ethics?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is no verification for race when you register your child for school in k-12. Anyone can check the black or Hispanic box when you register your child and the school must accept it. Or you can go into the school office at any time and change your child’s race in the front office. Seems like the school must accept it at face value.

I don’t know why more parents don’t realize this.

And unlike extended time, it is free and quick. And gives your child more of a leg up than extended time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is no verification for race when you register your child for school in k-12. Anyone can check the black or Hispanic box when you register your child and the school must accept it. Or you can go into the school office at any time and change your child’s race in the front office. Seems like the school must accept it at face value.

I don’t know why more parents don’t realize this.

So they can lie? Please stop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am quite sure this is not as widespread as the pyschos on this board suggest.

Plenty of Asian parents are fed up with their kids being discriminated against and being held to an impossible standard. The system is rigged against them, why not play the game?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no verification for race when you register your child for school in k-12. Anyone can check the black or Hispanic box when you register your child and the school must accept it. Or you can go into the school office at any time and change your child’s race in the front office. Seems like the school must accept it at face value.

I don’t know why more parents don’t realize this.

Perhaps people realize it but have a sense of decency and ethics?

When dealing with an indecent, unethical system, you need to get creative.

[Anonymous]

My Asian friends said they marked “mixed races.” It imo,it’s maybe Hispanic or black, but you don’t have to specify. Still gives you an advantage over white or Asian.

[Anonymous]

If this is a widespread problem it would be concentrated in the top 30 or so competitive schools. This would mean that the diversity stats these schools report are BS, correct?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My Asian friends said they marked “mixed races.” It imo,it’s maybe Hispanic or black, but you don’t have to specify. Still gives you an advantage over white or Asian.

* It implies maybe

[Anonymous]

Our private school (big3) has a mandatory meeting with the college counselor to “fact check” the entire Application, including ECs, awards, sports, etc. I am assuming this also includes race, but maybe not?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My Asian friends said they marked “mixed races.” It imo,it’s maybe Hispanic or black, but you don’t have to specify. Still gives you an advantage over white or Asian.

This tactic avoids bias towards the applicant but there is no admissions advantage checking off mixed race because colleges don’t count these numbers in URM diversity stats.