Husband refuses to allow our child to see unvaccinated family

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did your relatives get covid already? If so - it's the same as being vaxxed.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2022/02/10/infection-vaccination-protection-mandates-cdc/

Haha. Are you a Russian troll?

Washington post is now Russian propaganda? Man, some of you people really need to turn off CNN and get laid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My husband refuses to let our son (3) see my unvaccinated sister, BIL and nieces. He describes my sister and BIL as selfish and dislikes them because they refused to get vaccinated for personal choice during the pandemic.

My husband takes methotrexate for rheumatoid arthritis and has been doing so for the past 10+ years. As a result he’s at higher risk of developing an infection and our son is too young to be vaccinated. My husband works from home and we outsource most things - groceries, etc.

But he refuses to see my family or let them see our son during family events. Our son will not maintain a mask and my sister refuses to wear one as well. My husband is perfectly fine with me going alone but has made it clear he will not be attending any family events with our son for an indefinite period of time.

I support him but WTF am I supposed to tell my sister?! Let me also add that my husband will take our son to the park to play around other kids and has taken him on an airplane once during the pandemic as well.

WTF your husband is insane and being a jerk. This is about control no Covid.

For starters them being or not being vaccinated does not change that they can catch and spread covid. Even if they were vaccinated they could still spread it to you and your son.

Second if you go visit them you could catch covid too and bring it home. My entire family is vaccinated and after my vaccinated son caught it we got it one after another. That fact that his is fine with you going proves my first point that this is all about either not wanting to spend time with them be being a controlling jerk.

He has an autoimmune disease you idiot.

No, idiot, their vaccination status does not matter. The vaccine does not prevent catching or spreading the virus. Even if they were vaccinated they could still catch and spread covid to his wife. As stated above my entire vaccinate and boosted family caught it and spread it to one person after another.

If he has an autoimmune disease, is high risk and has a zero risk tolerance policy then he should not be ok with his wife seeing them either, but he is fine with her going. He is a selfish controlling jerk. I would also argue that he needs therapy if he is still this terrified of covid 2 yrs out.

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Anonymous wrote:My husband refuses to let our son (3) see my unvaccinated sister, BIL and nieces. He describes my sister and BIL as selfish and dislikes them because they refused to get vaccinated for personal choice during the pandemic.

My husband takes methotrexate for rheumatoid arthritis and has been doing so for the past 10+ years. As a result he’s at higher risk of developing an infection and our son is too young to be vaccinated. My husband works from home and we outsource most things - groceries, etc.

But he refuses to see my family or let them see our son during family events. Our son will not maintain a mask and my sister refuses to wear one as well. My husband is perfectly fine with me going alone but has made it clear he will not be attending any family events with our son for an indefinite period of time.

I support him but WTF am I supposed to tell my sister?! Let me also add that my husband will take our son to the park to play around other kids and has taken him on an airplane once during the pandemic as well.

WTF your husband is insane and being a jerk. This is about control no Covid.

For starters them being or not being vaccinated does not change that they can catch and spread covid. Even if they were vaccinated they could still spread it to you and your son.

Second if you go visit them you could catch covid too and bring it home. My entire family is vaccinated and after my vaccinated son caught it we got it one after another. That fact that his is fine with you going proves my first point that this is all about either not wanting to spend time with them be being a controlling jerk.

He has an autoimmune disease you idiot.

No, idiot, their vaccination status does not matter. The vaccine does not prevent catching or spreading the virus. Even if they were vaccinated they could still catch and spread covid to his wife. As stated above my entire vaccinate and boosted family caught it and spread it to one person after another.

If he has an autoimmune disease, is high risk and has a zero risk tolerance policy then he should not be ok with his wife seeing them either, but he is fine with her going. He is a selfish controlling jerk. I would also argue that he needs therapy if he is still this terrified of covid 2 yrs out.

DP. If OP is fully vaccinated and properly masked, it does meaningfully decrease the risk of her seeing her unvaxed family. You choose to see it as controlling, but to me it seems like him trying to compromise on the issue without abandoning all consideration of safety. My guess is he would prefer OP not see her sister’s family at all, but he’s not taking that hard a line here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Tell your sister to grow the f*ck up and get vaccinated.

She and her husband won’t. It’s in their character.

So does this mean that we will just never see them as a family, ever?!

Sounds like it.

[Anonymous]

When the husband stops going to the park and traveling then I would take his health concerns seriously. He only seems concerned when it involves something he would prefer not to do, like a teenager. Let him stay home and sulk and visit your sister. Nobody will miss him.

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Anonymous wrote:My husband refuses to let our son (3) see my unvaccinated sister, BIL and nieces. He describes my sister and BIL as selfish and dislikes them because they refused to get vaccinated for personal choice during the pandemic.

My husband takes methotrexate for rheumatoid arthritis and has been doing so for the past 10+ years. As a result he’s at higher risk of developing an infection and our son is too young to be vaccinated. My husband works from home and we outsource most things - groceries, etc.

But he refuses to see my family or let them see our son during family events. Our son will not maintain a mask and my sister refuses to wear one as well. My husband is perfectly fine with me going alone but has made it clear he will not be attending any family events with our son for an indefinite period of time.

I support him but WTF am I supposed to tell my sister?! Let me also add that my husband will take our son to the park to play around other kids and has taken him on an airplane once during the pandemic as well.

WTF your husband is insane and being a jerk. This is about control no Covid.

For starters them being or not being vaccinated does not change that they can catch and spread covid. Even if they were vaccinated they could still spread it to you and your son.

Second if you go visit them you could catch covid too and bring it home. My entire family is vaccinated and after my vaccinated son caught it we got it one after another. That fact that his is fine with you going proves my first point that this is all about either not wanting to spend time with them be being a controlling jerk.

He has an autoimmune disease you idiot.

No, idiot, their vaccination status does not matter. The vaccine does not prevent catching or spreading the virus. Even if they were vaccinated they could still catch and spread covid to his wife. As stated above my entire vaccinate and boosted family caught it and spread it to one person after another.

If he has an autoimmune disease, is high risk and has a zero risk tolerance policy then he should not be ok with his wife seeing them either, but he is fine with her going. He is a selfish controlling jerk. I would also argue that he needs therapy if he is still this terrified of covid 2 yrs out.

DP. If OP is fully vaccinated and properly masked, it does meaningfully decrease the risk of her seeing her unvaxed family. You choose to see it as controlling, but to me it seems like him trying to compromise on the issue without abandoning all consideration of safety. My guess is he would prefer OP not see her sister’s family at all, but he’s not taking that hard a line here.

the mask will help, the vaccination status does not.

Case numbers are low, time for this fool to let his family live their lives.

Maybe have her sister test beforehand as a compromise.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Tell your sister to grow the f*ck up and get vaccinated.

That part. Your husband has an autoimmune issue and you are worried about your sister’s feelings. She can pound sand.

Your sister doesn’t care about your son or your family.

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Anonymous wrote:My husband refuses to let our son (3) see my unvaccinated sister, BIL and nieces. He describes my sister and BIL as selfish and dislikes them because they refused to get vaccinated for personal choice during the pandemic.

My husband takes methotrexate for rheumatoid arthritis and has been doing so for the past 10+ years. As a result he’s at higher risk of developing an infection and our son is too young to be vaccinated. My husband works from home and we outsource most things - groceries, etc.

But he refuses to see my family or let them see our son during family events. Our son will not maintain a mask and my sister refuses to wear one as well. My husband is perfectly fine with me going alone but has made it clear he will not be attending any family events with our son for an indefinite period of time.

I support him but WTF am I supposed to tell my sister?! Let me also add that my husband will take our son to the park to play around other kids and has taken him on an airplane once during the pandemic as well.

WTF your husband is insane and being a jerk. This is about control no Covid.

For starters them being or not being vaccinated does not change that they can catch and spread covid. Even if they were vaccinated they could still spread it to you and your son.

Second if you go visit them you could catch covid too and bring it home. My entire family is vaccinated and after my vaccinated son caught it we got it one after another. That fact that his is fine with you going proves my first point that this is all about either not wanting to spend time with them be being a controlling jerk.

He has an autoimmune disease you idiot.

No, idiot, their vaccination status does not matter. The vaccine does not prevent catching or spreading the virus. Even if they were vaccinated they could still catch and spread covid to his wife. As stated above my entire vaccinate and boosted family caught it and spread it to one person after another.

If he has an autoimmune disease, is high risk and has a zero risk tolerance policy then he should not be ok with his wife seeing them either, but he is fine with her going. He is a selfish controlling jerk. I would also argue that he needs therapy if he is still this terrified of covid 2 yrs out.

DP. If OP is fully vaccinated and properly masked, it does meaningfully decrease the risk of her seeing her unvaxed family. You choose to see it as controlling, but to me it seems like him trying to compromise on the issue without abandoning all consideration of safety. My guess is he would prefer OP not see her sister’s family at all, but he’s not taking that hard a line here.

the mask will help, the vaccination status does not.

Case numbers are low, time for this fool to let his family live their lives.

Maybe have her sister test beforehand as a compromise.

LOL, you think a family that refuses to get vaccinated will agree to all get covid tested before OP and her kid come to visit?

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Anonymous wrote:My husband refuses to let our son (3) see my unvaccinated sister, BIL and nieces. He describes my sister and BIL as selfish and dislikes them because they refused to get vaccinated for personal choice during the pandemic.

My husband takes methotrexate for rheumatoid arthritis and has been doing so for the past 10+ years. As a result he’s at higher risk of developing an infection and our son is too young to be vaccinated. My husband works from home and we outsource most things - groceries, etc.

But he refuses to see my family or let them see our son during family events. Our son will not maintain a mask and my sister refuses to wear one as well. My husband is perfectly fine with me going alone but has made it clear he will not be attending any family events with our son for an indefinite period of time.

I support him but WTF am I supposed to tell my sister?! Let me also add that my husband will take our son to the park to play around other kids and has taken him on an airplane once during the pandemic as well.

WTF your husband is insane and being a jerk. This is about control no Covid.

For starters them being or not being vaccinated does not change that they can catch and spread covid. Even if they were vaccinated they could still spread it to you and your son.

Second if you go visit them you could catch covid too and bring it home. My entire family is vaccinated and after my vaccinated son caught it we got it one after another. That fact that his is fine with you going proves my first point that this is all about either not wanting to spend time with them be being a controlling jerk.

He has an autoimmune disease you idiot.

No, idiot, their vaccination status does not matter. The vaccine does not prevent catching or spreading the virus. Even if they were vaccinated they could still catch and spread covid to his wife. As stated above my entire vaccinate and boosted family caught it and spread it to one person after another.

If he has an autoimmune disease, is high risk and has a zero risk tolerance policy then he should not be ok with his wife seeing them either, but he is fine with her going. He is a selfish controlling jerk. I would also argue that he needs therapy if he is still this terrified of covid 2 yrs out.

DP. If OP is fully vaccinated and properly masked, it does meaningfully decrease the risk of her seeing her unvaxed family. You choose to see it as controlling, but to me it seems like him trying to compromise on the issue without abandoning all consideration of safety. My guess is he would prefer OP not see her sister’s family at all, but he’s not taking that hard a line here.

the mask will help, the vaccination status does not.

Case numbers are low, time for this fool to let his family live their lives.

Maybe have her sister test beforehand as a compromise.

LOL, you think a family that refuses to get vaccinated will agree to all get covid tested before OP and her kid come to visit?

and you think vaccination status will protect anyone? Using this against anyone is a mechanism of control.

We have all learned by now that this vaccines does not prevent transmission.

[Anonymous]

What was the reason for the airplane flight? Some people are seizing on that to undermine his position, but I think the reason matters a lot for how we assess that factor.

Also, our play time at the playground is much lower risk than indoor socializing. OP has not indicated her sister’s family is willing to do an outdoor-only set-together.

[Anonymous]

I agree with your husband.

It's his personal choice to not be exposed to people who make terrible health choices.

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Anonymous wrote:My husband refuses to let our son (3) see my unvaccinated sister, BIL and nieces. He describes my sister and BIL as selfish and dislikes them because they refused to get vaccinated for personal choice during the pandemic.

My husband takes methotrexate for rheumatoid arthritis and has been doing so for the past 10+ years. As a result he’s at higher risk of developing an infection and our son is too young to be vaccinated. My husband works from home and we outsource most things - groceries, etc.

But he refuses to see my family or let them see our son during family events. Our son will not maintain a mask and my sister refuses to wear one as well. My husband is perfectly fine with me going alone but has made it clear he will not be attending any family events with our son for an indefinite period of time.

I support him but WTF am I supposed to tell my sister?! Let me also add that my husband will take our son to the park to play around other kids and has taken him on an airplane once during the pandemic as well.

WTF your husband is insane and being a jerk. This is about control no Covid.

For starters them being or not being vaccinated does not change that they can catch and spread covid. Even if they were vaccinated they could still spread it to you and your son.

Second if you go visit them you could catch covid too and bring it home. My entire family is vaccinated and after my vaccinated son caught it we got it one after another. That fact that his is fine with you going proves my first point that this is all about either not wanting to spend time with them be being a controlling jerk.

He has an autoimmune disease you idiot.

No, idiot, their vaccination status does not matter. The vaccine does not prevent catching or spreading the virus. Even if they were vaccinated they could still catch and spread covid to his wife. As stated above my entire vaccinate and boosted family caught it and spread it to one person after another.

If he has an autoimmune disease, is high risk and has a zero risk tolerance policy then he should not be ok with his wife seeing them either, but he is fine with her going. He is a selfish controlling jerk. I would also argue that he needs therapy if he is still this terrified of covid 2 yrs out.

DP. If OP is fully vaccinated and properly masked, it does meaningfully decrease the risk of her seeing her unvaxed family. You choose to see it as controlling, but to me it seems like him trying to compromise on the issue without abandoning all consideration of safety. My guess is he would prefer OP not see her sister’s family at all, but he’s not taking that hard a line here.

the mask will help, the vaccination status does not.

Case numbers are low, time for this fool to let his family live their lives.

Maybe have her sister test beforehand as a compromise.

LOL, you think a family that refuses to get vaccinated will agree to all get covid tested before OP and her kid come to visit?

and you think vaccination status will protect anyone? Using this against anyone is a mechanism of control.

We have all learned by now that this vaccines does not prevent transmission.

It does not completely prevent transmission, but does reduce the likelihood of transmission.

But to make sure I understand, are you saying you would support him if he didn’t want any of them to visit and your only basis for objection is his openness to her going alone?

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Anonymous wrote:My husband refuses to let our son (3) see my unvaccinated sister, BIL and nieces. He describes my sister and BIL as selfish and dislikes them because they refused to get vaccinated for personal choice during the pandemic.

My husband takes methotrexate for rheumatoid arthritis and has been doing so for the past 10+ years. As a result he’s at higher risk of developing an infection and our son is too young to be vaccinated. My husband works from home and we outsource most things - groceries, etc.

But he refuses to see my family or let them see our son during family events. Our son will not maintain a mask and my sister refuses to wear one as well. My husband is perfectly fine with me going alone but has made it clear he will not be attending any family events with our son for an indefinite period of time.

I support him but WTF am I supposed to tell my sister?! Let me also add that my husband will take our son to the park to play around other kids and has taken him on an airplane once during the pandemic as well.

WTF your husband is insane and being a jerk. This is about control no Covid.

For starters them being or not being vaccinated does not change that they can catch and spread covid. Even if they were vaccinated they could still spread it to you and your son.

Second if you go visit them you could catch covid too and bring it home. My entire family is vaccinated and after my vaccinated son caught it we got it one after another. That fact that his is fine with you going proves my first point that this is all about either not wanting to spend time with them be being a controlling jerk.

He has an autoimmune disease you idiot.

No, idiot, their vaccination status does not matter. The vaccine does not prevent catching or spreading the virus. Even if they were vaccinated they could still catch and spread covid to his wife. As stated above my entire vaccinate and boosted family caught it and spread it to one person after another.

If he has an autoimmune disease, is high risk and has a zero risk tolerance policy then he should not be ok with his wife seeing them either, but he is fine with her going. He is a selfish controlling jerk. I would also argue that he needs therapy if he is still this terrified of covid 2 yrs out.

DP. If OP is fully vaccinated and properly masked, it does meaningfully decrease the risk of her seeing her unvaxed family. You choose to see it as controlling, but to me it seems like him trying to compromise on the issue without abandoning all consideration of safety. My guess is he would prefer OP not see her sister’s family at all, but he’s not taking that hard a line here.

the mask will help, the vaccination status does not.

Case numbers are low, time for this fool to let his family live their lives.

Maybe have her sister test beforehand as a compromise.

LOL, you think a family that refuses to get vaccinated will agree to all get covid tested before OP and her kid come to visit?

and you think vaccination status will protect anyone? Using this against anyone is a mechanism of control.

We have all learned by now that this vaccines does not prevent transmission.

It does not completely prevent transmission, but does reduce the likelihood of transmission.

But to make sure I understand, are you saying you would support him if he didn’t want any of them to visit and your only basis for objection is his openness to her going alone?

Please don't engage with people severely lacking in nuanced critical thinking skills, just a colossal waste of time.

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Anonymous wrote:My husband refuses to let our son (3) see my unvaccinated sister, BIL and nieces. He describes my sister and BIL as selfish and dislikes them because they refused to get vaccinated for personal choice during the pandemic.

My husband takes methotrexate for rheumatoid arthritis and has been doing so for the past 10+ years. As a result he’s at higher risk of developing an infection and our son is too young to be vaccinated. My husband works from home and we outsource most things - groceries, etc.

But he refuses to see my family or let them see our son during family events. Our son will not maintain a mask and my sister refuses to wear one as well. My husband is perfectly fine with me going alone but has made it clear he will not be attending any family events with our son for an indefinite period of time.

I support him but WTF am I supposed to tell my sister?! Let me also add that my husband will take our son to the park to play around other kids and has taken him on an airplane once during the pandemic as well.

WTF your husband is insane and being a jerk. This is about control no Covid.

For starters them being or not being vaccinated does not change that they can catch and spread covid. Even if they were vaccinated they could still spread it to you and your son.

Second if you go visit them you could catch covid too and bring it home. My entire family is vaccinated and after my vaccinated son caught it we got it one after another. That fact that his is fine with you going proves my first point that this is all about either not wanting to spend time with them be being a controlling jerk.

He has an autoimmune disease you idiot.

No, idiot, their vaccination status does not matter. The vaccine does not prevent catching or spreading the virus. Even if they were vaccinated they could still catch and spread covid to his wife. As stated above my entire vaccinate and boosted family caught it and spread it to one person after another.

If he has an autoimmune disease, is high risk and has a zero risk tolerance policy then he should not be ok with his wife seeing them either, but he is fine with her going. He is a selfish controlling jerk. I would also argue that he needs therapy if he is still this terrified of covid 2 yrs out.

DP. If OP is fully vaccinated and properly masked, it does meaningfully decrease the risk of her seeing her unvaxed family. You choose to see it as controlling, but to me it seems like him trying to compromise on the issue without abandoning all consideration of safety. My guess is he would prefer OP not see her sister’s family at all, but he’s not taking that hard a line here.

the mask will help, the vaccination status does not.

Case numbers are low, time for this fool to let his family live their lives.

Maybe have her sister test beforehand as a compromise.

LOL, you think a family that refuses to get vaccinated will agree to all get covid tested before OP and her kid come to visit?

and you think vaccination status will protect anyone? Using this against anyone is a mechanism of control.

We have all learned by now that this vaccines does not prevent transmission.

It does not completely prevent transmission, but does reduce the likelihood of transmission.

But to make sure I understand, are you saying you would support him if he didn’t want any of them to visit and your only basis for objection is his openness to her going alone?

Yes, I would support him more if he didn't want the wife to go either. But her going is the same as all of them going.

That said, if he won't see unvaccinated people then he shouldn't see anyone because even vaccinated folks are still getting and transmitting Covid.

Has this dude really not left his house or socialized in 2 years? That is not mentally healthy.
Does the kid not spend time with anyone other than his parents?

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Anonymous wrote:My husband refuses to let our son (3) see my unvaccinated sister, BIL and nieces. He describes my sister and BIL as selfish and dislikes them because they refused to get vaccinated for personal choice during the pandemic.

My husband takes methotrexate for rheumatoid arthritis and has been doing so for the past 10+ years. As a result he’s at higher risk of developing an infection and our son is too young to be vaccinated. My husband works from home and we outsource most things - groceries, etc.

But he refuses to see my family or let them see our son during family events. Our son will not maintain a mask and my sister refuses to wear one as well. My husband is perfectly fine with me going alone but has made it clear he will not be attending any family events with our son for an indefinite period of time.

I support him but WTF am I supposed to tell my sister?! Let me also add that my husband will take our son to the park to play around other kids and has taken him on an airplane once during the pandemic as well.

WTF your husband is insane and being a jerk. This is about control no Covid.

For starters them being or not being vaccinated does not change that they can catch and spread covid. Even if they were vaccinated they could still spread it to you and your son.

Second if you go visit them you could catch covid too and bring it home. My entire family is vaccinated and after my vaccinated son caught it we got it one after another. That fact that his is fine with you going proves my first point that this is all about either not wanting to spend time with them be being a controlling jerk.

He has an autoimmune disease you idiot.

No, idiot, their vaccination status does not matter. The vaccine does not prevent catching or spreading the virus. Even if they were vaccinated they could still catch and spread covid to his wife. As stated above my entire vaccinate and boosted family caught it and spread it to one person after another.

If he has an autoimmune disease, is high risk and has a zero risk tolerance policy then he should not be ok with his wife seeing them either, but he is fine with her going. He is a selfish controlling jerk. I would also argue that he needs therapy if he is still this terrified of covid 2 yrs out.

DP. If OP is fully vaccinated and properly masked, it does meaningfully decrease the risk of her seeing her unvaxed family. You choose to see it as controlling, but to me it seems like him trying to compromise on the issue without abandoning all consideration of safety. My guess is he would prefer OP not see her sister’s family at all, but he’s not taking that hard a line here.

the mask will help, the vaccination status does not.

Case numbers are low, time for this fool to let his family live their lives.

Maybe have her sister test beforehand as a compromise.

LOL, you think a family that refuses to get vaccinated will agree to all get covid tested before OP and her kid come to visit?

and you think vaccination status will protect anyone? Using this against anyone is a mechanism of control.

We have all learned by now that this vaccines does not prevent transmission.

It does not completely prevent transmission, but does reduce the likelihood of transmission.

But to make sure I understand, are you saying you would support him if he didn’t want any of them to visit and your only basis for objection is his openness to her going alone?

Please don't engage with people severely lacking in nuanced critical thinking skills, just a colossal waste of time.

please explain to me what I am not thinking of critically? even if the sister was vaccinated she could still catch and spred covid. I know, my vaccinated child who only coughed a few times one day, spread it to our entire vaccinated family.