Divorced SAHMs and younger professional women: sugar babies?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would also like to date someone generous and giving as those as personality traits I value. I won't go on a second date with a guy if he didn't pay for the first (usually just a coffee or a drink). That being said, I am not looking for a sugar daddy...just someone who can support himself and doesn't nickel and dime in relationships. I make 250k+/year, and I am also very generous.

Women like you are a dime and dozen and high value men don’t want women like you.

There are many fewer “high value men” than high earning men would like to believe. It’s not about high income, surprise surprise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, the world has changed in that this behavior is out in the open now.
When my wife started behaving like that it ruined our marriage.
She was on social media and somehow it got into her head that she was owed things more quickly then our budget allowed.
The sad thing is there are a lot of low quality/ low self esteem men out there willing to pay women through only fans, seeking, etc.

This. Men put up with a bunch of BS if they think they can get laid and this entitles women to think they can act this way. Then these women expect high value men, but get upset because high value men don’t want women like them. Then they berate men instead of looking to themselves to find out why men don’t want to date them. Women need to wake up and realize men don’t want lazy women who look at them like a paycheck.

The do want sex and children though, and they want high quality mothers for their children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Its an era of equality, pay for your share or don’t go on dates, do overtime to earn more.

Lol “overtime.” Those of us with white collar jobs don’t get paid overtime dearie.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Its an era of equality, pay for your share or don’t go on dates, do overtime to earn more.

Oh okay as soon as you do your equal share with being pregnant, delivering and breast feeding multiple children, waking up all night every night for years, cleaning up after children’s and a spouse, staying home with sick kids and taking them to the doctor, going to school events and teacher conferences, managing school projects and supervising homework, social life and kids transportation needs until they are 18, managing childcare and household help if any, doing their wardrobes and toys, managing their extracurriculars and friendships, grocery shopping for a family, cooking and packing three meals a day for a family, taking care of cars and animals and home maintenance, planning and packing for all vacations/travel, organizing and executing all holidays and family memories, taking all the career compromises /setbacks and challenges involved in doing all this while working full time, and very possibly (and in my case) managing finances and taxes. See how that works? Why the hell do men think they are entitled to do nothing but work their job and f*ck their women?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a middle aged guy. Lately I've been shocked by how similar the 20 something childless women and the 40 something moms without jobs have been on the dating apps. When they text they almost always start to use words like "generous" or "giving" or "pampering" to describe what they want in a relationship. A lot of younger women do this even if they have real jobs. A lot of older women do this even if they have been living very respectable lives with kids. I didn't expect this. Sometimes it's hard to tell who wants a sugar daddy.

OP, you should question why you would contextualize women as wanting a sugar daddy soley because they are honest and explicit about not wanting to be a "sugar momma".

So many men target these same women to try to use them for cash and abuse their kindness.

Newsflash, these words are being used to weed out the couch surfing, cheap, eternal childhood, man-boy, mother replacers that frequent these apps.

In other words, if you are bothered by what a woman says she wants, swipe on. I am sure you'll find your sugar momma in their somewhere.

So true. I immediately swipe left on any so-called man who includes a baby or childhood picture in his profile. Grow up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Its an era of equality, pay for your share or don’t go on dates, do overtime to earn more.

If you think we’re living in an era of equality, you have a truly deranged view of equality.

But it has nothing to do with “equal” it has to do with what people are looking for in a partner. If someone is seeking someone generous, who wants to spoil them, why would they waste their time on someone who has your attitude? Life is too short to date the wrong men.

[Anonymous]

I saw a post on social media where a British guy addressed the issue of women preferring men who earn more because those women are materialistic. He said it’s not a gender thing, it’s an American thing. We are just a materialistic people.

And it makes sense. Who do men basically worship? Elon musk and other billionaires. They want to be like them, so it makes sense that women want to be with them.

But I’m not actually like this. DH makes over 500K and I don’t actually like it. I always wanted to work harder for what I have because I just think it’s better for your character.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a middle aged guy. Lately I've been shocked by how similar the 20 something childless women and the 40 something moms without jobs have been on the dating apps. When they text they almost always start to use words like "generous" or "giving" or "pampering" to describe what they want in a relationship. A lot of younger women do this even if they have real jobs. A lot of older women do this even if they have been living very respectable lives with kids. I didn't expect this. Sometimes it's hard to tell who wants a sugar daddy.

OP, you should question why you would contextualize women as wanting a sugar daddy soley because they are honest and explicit about not wanting to be a "sugar momma".

So many men target these same women to try to use them for cash and abuse their kindness.

Newsflash, these words are being used to weed out the couch surfing, cheap, eternal childhood, man-boy, mother replacers that frequent these apps.

In other words, if you are bothered by what a woman says she wants, swipe on. I am sure you'll find your sugar momma in their somewhere.

So true. I immediately swipe left on any so-called man who includes a baby or childhood picture in his profile. Grow up.

OP is a mamma's boy who probably never made his own bed. Get a blow up doll OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I saw a post on social media where a British guy addressed the issue of women preferring men who earn more because those women are materialistic. He said it’s not a gender thing, it’s an American thing. We are just a materialistic people.

And it makes sense. Who do men basically worship? Elon musk and other billionaires. They want to be like them, so it makes sense that women want to be with them.

But I’m not actually like this. DH makes over 500K and I don’t actually like it. I always wanted to work harder for what I have because I just think it’s better for your character.

No...we aren’t just “materialistic” people in the US. We are a capitalist country and individuals are largely responsible for their own expenses, much more so than in other countries. Women don’t get ANY mandated paid maternity leave. You have to save for your own healthcare expenses, retirement, better schools, college and much more. Therefore, women in the US seek out a partner that can help them afford the expenses of a family, which are high.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I saw a post on social media where a British guy addressed the issue of women preferring men who earn more because those women are materialistic. He said it’s not a gender thing, it’s an American thing. We are just a materialistic people.

And it makes sense. Who do men basically worship? Elon musk and other billionaires. They want to be like them, so it makes sense that women want to be with them.

But I’m not actually like this. DH makes over 500K and I don’t actually like it. I always wanted to work harder for what I have because I just think it’s better for your character.

Most of the world is materialistic.

American men don't worship Elon Musk.

Some Americans work hard because it's part of the culture. See for example, "Protestant work ethic".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Women in their 20s want to have kids so they want a man who makes good money and who will be involved with the kids and at home.

Women in their 30s have kids and realize men don’t pitch in when it comes to domestic labor.

Women in their 40s are freaking exhausted from all the years of raising kids basically solo and have learned all men are good for is money, so if you’re gonna deal with a selfish loser, better to be one with money.

So true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would also like to date someone generous and giving as those as personality traits I value. I won't go on a second date with a guy if he didn't pay for the first (usually just a coffee or a drink). That being said, I am not looking for a sugar daddy...just someone who can support himself and doesn't nickel and dime in relationships. I make 250k+/year, and I am also very generous.

Women like you are a dime and dozen and high value men don’t want women like you.

There are many fewer “high value men” than high earning men would like to believe. It’s not about high income, surprise surprise.

And WTH makes a woman "high value", in your mind??? Mad shopping skills, and the ability to light a match to her husband's paycheck?? GTFO. Woman here.

Some of you women should be positively ashamed of your lazy, meaningless existence, frankly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What do you want them to say? “Looking for a miserly, stingy, and penny-pinching man.” No. Women want to be romanced, not necessarily “maintained,” and yes, you have to pay to play.

Lol! I don’t know what I’d write. How about kind optimist who is a problem solver with little debt, and values relationships with family and friends? Oh and good oral skills, or at least willing to learn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I saw a post on social media where a British guy addressed the issue of women preferring men who earn more because those women are materialistic. He said it’s not a gender thing, it’s an American thing. We are just a materialistic people.

And it makes sense. Who do men basically worship? Elon musk and other billionaires. They want to be like them, so it makes sense that women want to be with them.

But I’m not actually like this. DH makes over 500K and I don’t actually like it. I always wanted to work harder for what I have because I just think it’s better for your character.

Most of the world is materialistic.

American men don't worship Elon Musk.

Some Americans work hard because it's part of the culture. See for example, "Protestant work ethic".

Pffft American men don’t worship Elon Musk?? How many white American men do you know?

If you want to bring religion into it, see “prosperity doctrine.” It’s an American thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I saw a post on social media where a British guy addressed the issue of women preferring men who earn more because those women are materialistic. He said it’s not a gender thing, it’s an American thing. We are just a materialistic people.

And it makes sense. Who do men basically worship? Elon musk and other billionaires. They want to be like them, so it makes sense that women want to be with them.

But I’m not actually like this. DH makes over 500K and I don’t actually like it. I always wanted to work harder for what I have because I just think it’s better for your character.

No...we aren’t just “materialistic” people in the US. We are a capitalist country and individuals are largely responsible for their own expenses, much more so than in other countries. Women don’t get ANY mandated paid maternity leave. You have to save for your own healthcare expenses, retirement, better schools, college and much more. Therefore, women in the US seek out a partner that can help them afford the expenses of a family, which are high.

PP here and you are right, but I’m right too.

Some women really just are super materialistic. The thing is that men who are also materialistic but can’t “afford” those women insult those women for wanting a man with money. But I can imagine men conflating women who simply want a basic lifestyle that requires money with women who are really materialistic.