Divorced SAHMs and younger professional women: sugar babies?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I've been a sugar daddy and "dated" many women in their 20s. There are some women on such sites (for sugar dating specifically) who are clearly just focused on money, and I avoid them. The others are looking more for the excitement or they don't like their options among men their age. The money I'm sure is nice too, but often didn't seem like their primary focus.

Why would women want this? I just don't get it. An old dad. Someone with different experiences than you. Someone who will die before you. Someone with previous relationships you have to live up to. No thanks.

They don’t.
Part of being a sugar baby is being a good actress and making the older man feel young, interesting, and exciting. If you focus too much on the money too early on, you are going to lose him.

[Anonymous]

9 pages into this thread and I can't believe nobody posted this classic. This song is 23 years old.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've been a sugar daddy and "dated" many women in their 20s. There are some women on such sites (for sugar dating specifically) who are clearly just focused on money, and I avoid them. The others are looking more for the excitement or they don't like their options among men their age. The money I'm sure is nice too, but often didn't seem like their primary focus.

Why would women want this? I just don't get it. An old dad. Someone with different experiences than you. Someone who will die before you. Someone with previous relationships you have to live up to. No thanks.

They don’t.
Part of being a sugar baby is being a good actress and making the older man feel young, interesting, and exciting. If you focus too much on the money too early on, you are going to lose him.

+1 we used to call this the GFE, girlfriend experience. Now it’s a sugar baby.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a middle aged guy. Lately I've been shocked by how similar the 20 something childless women and the 40 something moms without jobs have been on the dating apps. When they text they almost always start to use words like "generous" or "giving" or "pampering" to describe what they want in a relationship. A lot of younger women do this even if they have real jobs. A lot of older women do this even if they have been living very respectable lives with kids. I didn't expect this. Sometimes it's hard to tell who wants a sugar daddy.

I'm not sure what you're not understanding. All women regardless want a successful man they can be proud of. This is our culture, whereas men look for attractiveness and someone who will take care of them. The man is still expected to be more financially responsible and generous. If I were single today even though I'm financially comfortable I would still expect that from my partner. I'm surprised you think women would change because they are a little older. Also, why are you looking at 20 somethings because obviously you are too old for them....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've been a sugar daddy and "dated" many women in their 20s. There are some women on such sites (for sugar dating specifically) who are clearly just focused on money, and I avoid them. The others are looking more for the excitement or they don't like their options among men their age. The money I'm sure is nice too, but often didn't seem like their primary focus.

Why would women want this? I just don't get it. An old dad. Someone with different experiences than you. Someone who will die before you. Someone with previous relationships you have to live up to. No thanks.

Many of those women likely never had a father or at least never had a strong father figure in their life. They to older men to fulfill the void of not having a father.

+1

I thought this was well known.

[Anonymous]

I dated a few older men in my twenties and it was 100% about money. I was young and poor and it seemed edgy and profitable and it made me feel powerful. From that experience I became pretty cynical about men, even to this day and in my own marriage. I wouldn’t find myself in that situation if I became single in my 40s because I’m in a much different position now. I think I’d just stay single forever and find a good group on single girlfriends to hang with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've been a sugar daddy and "dated" many women in their 20s. There are some women on such sites (for sugar dating specifically) who are clearly just focused on money, and I avoid them. The others are looking more for the excitement or they don't like their options among men their age. The money I'm sure is nice too, but often didn't seem like their primary focus.

Why would women want this? I just don't get it. An old dad. Someone with different experiences than you. Someone who will die before you. Someone with previous relationships you have to live up to. No thanks.

Because women that age aren't necessarily looking for a long-term relationship or a husband. They are looking for something different and fun. They like going to nice restaurants and having interesting conversations, and they haven't found men their age who can provide that. Not all women are like this of course, but plenty are.

The difference betwen sugar dating and prostitution in their eyes is you can choose who you are with... kind of like regular dating.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've been a sugar daddy and "dated" many women in their 20s. There are some women on such sites (for sugar dating specifically) who are clearly just focused on money, and I avoid them. The others are looking more for the excitement or they don't like their options among men their age. The money I'm sure is nice too, but often didn't seem like their primary focus.

Why would women want this? I just don't get it. An old dad. Someone with different experiences than you. Someone who will die before you. Someone with previous relationships you have to live up to. No thanks.

Many of those women likely never had a father or at least never had a strong father figure in their life. They to older men to fulfill the void of not having a father.

+1

I thought this was well known.

Ahh that explains it. They literally are searching for a daddy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've been a sugar daddy and "dated" many women in their 20s. There are some women on such sites (for sugar dating specifically) who are clearly just focused on money, and I avoid them. The others are looking more for the excitement or they don't like their options among men their age. The money I'm sure is nice too, but often didn't seem like their primary focus.

Why would women want this? I just don't get it. An old dad. Someone with different experiences than you. Someone who will die before you. Someone with previous relationships you have to live up to. No thanks.

Many of those women likely never had a father or at least never had a strong father figure in their life. They to older men to fulfill the void of not having a father.

+1

I thought this was well known.

Ahh that explains it. They literally are searching for a daddy.

Exactly "daddy issues" are a real thing. So are "mommy issues" but that is a different thread.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Its an era of equality, pay for your share or don’t go on dates, do overtime to earn more.

Oh okay as soon as you do your equal share with being pregnant, delivering and breast feeding multiple children, waking up all night every night for years, cleaning up after children’s and a spouse, staying home with sick kids and taking them to the doctor, going to school events and teacher conferences, managing school projects and supervising homework, social life and kids transportation needs until they are 18, managing childcare and household help if any, doing their wardrobes and toys, managing their extracurriculars and friendships, grocery shopping for a family, cooking and packing three meals a day for a family, taking care of cars and animals and home maintenance, planning and packing for all vacations/travel, organizing and executing all holidays and family memories, taking all the career compromises /setbacks and challenges involved in doing all this while working full time, and very possibly (and in my case) managing finances and taxes. See how that works? Why the hell do men think they are entitled to do nothing but work their job and f*ck their women?

This is your choice and the life you chose. You choose to be a SAHM and have kids. You sound dumb because you know men can’t carry a baby. You can formula feed if breastfeeding is too much. You could have easily been a career woman without kids. Stop blaming all men because you’re unhappy with your life choices.

Exactly. Many of us chose not to be our husband's unpaid employee.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Its an era of equality, pay for your share or don’t go on dates, do overtime to earn more.

Oh okay as soon as you do your equal share with being pregnant, delivering and breast feeding multiple children, waking up all night every night for years, cleaning up after children’s and a spouse, staying home with sick kids and taking them to the doctor, going to school events and teacher conferences, managing school projects and supervising homework, social life and kids transportation needs until they are 18, managing childcare and household help if any, doing their wardrobes and toys, managing their extracurriculars and friendships, grocery shopping for a family, cooking and packing three meals a day for a family, taking care of cars and animals and home maintenance, planning and packing for all vacations/travel, organizing and executing all holidays and family memories, taking all the career compromises /setbacks and challenges involved in doing all this while working full time, and very possibly (and in my case) managing finances and taxes. See how that works? Why the hell do men think they are entitled to do nothing but work their job and f*ck their women?

This is your choice and the life you chose. You choose to be a SAHM and have kids. You sound dumb because you know men can’t carry a baby. You can formula feed if breastfeeding is too much. You could have easily been a career woman without kids. Stop blaming all men because you’re unhappy with your life choices.

Exactly. Many of us chose not to be our husband's unpaid employee.

The above poster said that she works full time. She’s not a SAHM.
Not that it matters.
I wouldn’t do away with any romance or feelings that my husband cares for me in exchange for cooking fewer meals for our family. These relationships where everyone takes care of themselves, neither partner needs the other, and both are constantly prepared for divorce sound terrible.
No wonder no one on this board is having sex.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would also like to date someone generous and giving as those as personality traits I value. I won't go on a second date with a guy if he didn't pay for the first (usually just a coffee or a drink). That being said, I am not looking for a sugar daddy...just someone who can support himself and doesn't nickel and dime in relationships. I make 250k+/year, and I am also very generous.

Women like you are a dime and dozen and high value men don’t want women like you.

There are many fewer “high value men” than high earning men would like to believe. It’s not about high income, surprise surprise.

I never indicated it was solely about money, you did. High value men goes well beyond a high income.

OMG, this is the mentally disturbed one with the "high value men." She can't even freaking describe what this means. She's like my 70-year old aunt who talks nonsense after she has too much wine and fights with everyone. As an applied math person, I also cry when I hear people saying that a woman who makes over 250K is dime a dozen. It tells me that they are so learning-challenged that they didn't even take AP stats in high school. And if you can't understand basic high school math, your opinion is trash to me. You don't have enough brain power to think reasonably. I don't expect Heidegger, just basic stats.

I'm with you! I'm pretty sure that my 250k income puts me in at least the top 10% of US earners. Also, I date great guys, so I'm happy with my own "value."