Girl Raped at Rockville HS

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:At Barnsley, our staff is doing a Community Outreach Event at the Crystal Springs apartment on Tuesday afternoon.

Can't say for sure, but likely that the 18 year old attacker lived at the Crystal Springs apartment complex. Articles have noted that he lives in an apartment on Bel Pre Road and there are not that many apartments on Bel Pre that feed into Rockville HS.

Not saying they shouldn't do anything, but the issues presented here will not be solved by Community Outreach initiatives and Staff Diversity training.

Don't you know, it takes a village. ALL concerned citizens should be meeting to discuss statigic plans to address this outrage. Don't you think?


Also this meeting is not about this incident at all. There will be no law enforcement reps present. Just teachers and the principal from Barnsley.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are multiple sexual assaults and drug arrests at MCPS. Why is everyone ignoring those?


We are discussing one deplorable incident, which involves dumb policy by MCPS where it could be foreseen that a problem would arise. It did not have to happen and is a glaring example of the counties defend illegals above all reason. Why do you feel the need to deflect the conversation. Of course there are other rapes and even murder, so that means we should just say "oh well."

How could mcps have forseen this horrific incident would happen? Plenty of illegal immigrant children are respectful, try to follow the law, and go on to be quit successful. How do you tell which person is going to commit a crime?


Not the PP, but by definition, an ILLEGAL immigrant has already broken the law. And this was NOT a child. The attacker was an 18 year old MAN. Can you really not see how that would cause problems? Putting a grown man who speaks no English and comes from a troubled background in with 14 year old girls?
Anonymous
Any Rockville HS parents on here? Have you been in the school during school hours to volunteer or at events? What are your thoights on the clientele? Is there an overwhelming amount of students that look like the men that were pictured in the news report of the rape?
Anonymous
On WMAL now!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are multiple sexual assaults and drug arrests at MCPS. Why is everyone ignoring those?


We are discussing one deplorable incident, which involves dumb policy by MCPS where it could be foreseen that a problem would arise. It did not have to happen and is a glaring example of the counties defend illegals above all reason. Why do you feel the need to deflect the conversation. Of course there are other rapes and even murder, so that means we should just say "oh well."

How could mcps have forseen this horrific incident would happen? Plenty of illegal immigrant children are respectful, try to follow the law, and go on to be quit successful. How do you tell which person is going to commit a crime?


Not the PP, but by definition, an ILLEGAL immigrant has already broken the law. And this was NOT a child. The attacker was an 18 year old MAN. Can you really not see how that would cause problems? Putting a grown man who speaks no English and comes from a troubled background in with 14 year old girls?


+1 ILLEGAL. We have no idea these men's background but you put them in school with 14 year-olds. A troubled student of legal status, you would have an idea if they committed felonies before -- we know nothing of these men that illegally entered the country with the last year but sure, come integrate with our children. Let's just cross our fingers that it works. Great Plan
Anonymous
I am struck by how brazen the attackers were. They didn't attack and run away. They stayed in school as if nothing has happened, which leads me to the conclusion that they have attacked before, threatened the victim, and gotten away with it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I am struck by how brazen the attackers were. They didn't attack and run away. They stayed in school as if nothing has happened, which leads me to the conclusion that they have attacked before, threatened the victim, and gotten away with it.


Yeah and they prob dont actually think what they did is wrong.
Anonymous
Here is an MCPS presentation I found online about ESOL and immigrants.

http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/council/Resources/Files/agenda/cm/2015/151105/20151105_HHSED2.pdf

It doesn't say how many are illegal (because we know they don't ask). But in 2016, it looks like there were just over 22,000 kids county-wide enrolled in ESOL. I don't think that's a huge amount. I don't recall from my brief reading of this what the budget impact of this is.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I am struck by how brazen the attackers were. They didn't attack and run away. They stayed in school as if nothing has happened, which leads me to the conclusion that they have attacked before, threatened the victim, and gotten away with it.

Exactly. God only knows how many victims in our public schools simply didn't have the courage and support to report their attackers to the police.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are multiple sexual assaults and drug arrests at MCPS. Why is everyone ignoring those?


We are discussing one deplorable incident, which involves dumb policy by MCPS where it could be foreseen that a problem would arise. It did not have to happen and is a glaring example of the counties defend illegals above all reason. Why do you feel the need to deflect the conversation. Of course there are other rapes and even murder, so that means we should just say "oh well."

How could mcps have forseen this horrific incident would happen? Plenty of illegal immigrant children are respectful, try to follow the law, and go on to be quit successful. How do you tell which person is going to commit a crime?


Not the PP, but by definition, an ILLEGAL immigrant has already broken the law. And this was NOT a child. The attacker was an 18 year old MAN. Can you really not see how that would cause problems? Putting a grown man who speaks no English and comes from a troubled background in with 14 year old girls?


+1 ILLEGAL. We have no idea these men's background but you put them in school with 14 year-olds. A troubled student of legal status, you would have an idea if they committed felonies before -- we know nothing of these men that illegally entered the country with the last year but sure, come integrate with our children. Let's just cross our fingers that it works. Great Plan

First of all, many illegal immigrant children didn't break the law by coming here. Their parents did. I'm guessing the children had no choice.

Secondly, we have many "real" Americans who are 19/20 by the time they finish HS because they have been redshirted. If you want to have a rule that prohibits 20 years olds in HS, I'm all for that. But, it should apply to everyone, not just those with brown skin with no documents.

Thirdly, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that not all 18 yr old illegal immigrants have committed rape. Therefore, I don't think anyone could have predicted that this would happen.

Again, if you think having much older teens in HS with 14 year olds is a problem (and I do agree with this), then again, we should make it a blanket rule.

I think we should expand the scope of this outrage to those parents who redshirt their kids to the point that there are 20 year olds in HS. Wasn't there a case like this in one of the w schools a while ago?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The superintendent's statement says they are working with community members and students to "review security measures." What does that mean? I'm the pp that mentioned the need for security assessments. MCPS, don't just do an amateur glance at your security and think you've got it covered. You need people with actual security expertise, or you're just whitewashing the problem. Our students deserve an actual, legitimate security plan.

+1,000,000


Which should include criminal background checks and sexual harrassment training of incoming students.


These kids grew up in an environment where criminal behavior is sadly the norm. I seriously think sexual harassment training will do any good. As sad as I am for their situations and for whatever it was that caused them to think this was acceptable behavior, it is a million times sadder that our own policies allowed this to happen in our country and schools. They should never been allowed in our schools in the first place and that is an MCPS, MD, USA fail. It disgusts me that this poor girl's life was destroyed and many need to be held accountable and step up to make sure it never happens again. I have already written emails to legislators, BOE, Hogan the council and hope everyone else is angered enough to do the same. MCPS is trying to keep this under wraps. Don't let them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Here is an MCPS presentation I found online about ESOL and immigrants.

http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/council/Resources/Files/agenda/cm/2015/151105/20151105_HHSED2.pdf

It doesn't say how many are illegal (because we know they don't ask). But in 2016, it looks like there were just over 22,000 kids county-wide enrolled in ESOL. I don't think that's a huge amount. I don't recall from my brief reading of this what the budget impact of this is.

Hard to say how many of those 22K are illegal. I know several kids in ESOL. They are not illegally here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There are multiple sexual assaults and drug arrests at MCPS. Why is everyone ignoring those?


This one was the final straw.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are multiple sexual assaults and drug arrests at MCPS. Why is everyone ignoring those?


We are discussing one deplorable incident, which involves dumb policy by MCPS where it could be foreseen that a problem would arise. It did not have to happen and is a glaring example of the counties defend illegals above all reason. Why do you feel the need to deflect the conversation. Of course there are other rapes and even murder, so that means we should just say "oh well."

How could mcps have forseen this horrific incident would happen? Plenty of illegal immigrant children are respectful, try to follow the law, and go on to be quit successful. How do you tell which person is going to commit a crime?


Not the PP, but by definition, an ILLEGAL immigrant has already broken the law. And this was NOT a child. The attacker was an 18 year old MAN. Can you really not see how that would cause problems? Putting a grown man who speaks no English and comes from a troubled background in with 14 year old girls?


+1 ILLEGAL. We have no idea these men's background but you put them in school with 14 year-olds. A troubled student of legal status, you would have an idea if they committed felonies before -- we know nothing of these men that illegally entered the country with the last year but sure, come integrate with our children. Let's just cross our fingers that it works. Great Plan

First of all, many illegal immigrant children didn't break the law by coming here. Their parents did. I'm guessing the children had no choice.

Secondly, we have many "real" Americans who are 19/20 by the time they finish HS because they have been redshirted. If you want to have a rule that prohibits 20 years olds in HS, I'm all for that. But, it should apply to everyone, not just those with brown skin with no documents.

Thirdly, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that not all 18 yr old illegal immigrants have committed rape. Therefore, I don't think anyone could have predicted that this would happen.

Again, if you think having much older teens in HS with 14 year olds is a problem (and I do agree with this), then again, we should make it a blanket rule.

I think we should expand the scope of this outrage to those parents who redshirt their kids to the point that there are 20 year olds in HS. Wasn't there a case like this in one of the w schools a while ago?

I doubt you have a daughter in a MC High School.
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