Magruder HS Shooting

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School being virtual has nothing to do with school violence. Stop using mental health and virtual as excuses. These incidents happened long before and will happen long after. There are few consequences for students and parents when they misbehave. Many parents don't care.

When was the previous shooting at an MCPS school? I don't remember this happening before.

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I hate when we criticize women for their clothes but here it was warranted. The child was in surgery but could have died or might still die though hopefully not. This was a sober scary worst nightmare scenario with kids locked in classrooms still. Dark coat. Don’t make it look like you did your hair first. There should not have been time.

The more important question is why did she stay home until time for the presser? Shouldn't she have at least headed to her office? This was a crisis event--I would have expected her to go to the school.

She wasn't at home.

How do you know?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure this is a very naive question but why didn’t anyone hear the gunshot? The victim was found in the bathroom not that someone heard the gunshot?

I was wondering the same. The only thing I could think of was that it happened during transition time when it's fairly loud in the hallway. But, IDK. It's a good question.

Schools have very solid walls and doors. A gun shot would sound a lot like slamming a door in your house outside and far from the bathroom. Double so if you are in classroom with thick walls. I didn't hear it all in the building. None of my students did.
-Magruder teacher.

My kid goes to Magruder and the level of violence (fights, fight club/slap boxing/robbery) is pretty overwhelming right now. What would you like to see done to reduce that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure this is a very naive question but why didn’t anyone hear the gunshot? The victim was found in the bathroom not that someone heard the gunshot?

I was wondering the same. The only thing I could think of was that it happened during transition time when it's fairly loud in the hallway. But, IDK. It's a good question.

Schools have very solid walls and doors. A gun shot would sound a lot like slamming a door in your house outside and far from the bathroom. Double so if you are in classroom with thick walls. I didn't hear it all in the building. None of my students did.
-Magruder teacher.

My kid goes to Magruder and the level of violence (fights, fight club/slap boxing/robbery) is pretty overwhelming right now. What would you like to see done to reduce that?

DP

I have a kid in a different nonW cluster and she reports the same. Lunch time is chaos.

MCPS needs to do something to ensure school safety for the kids who do attend school to get an education.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://wjla.com/news/local/magruder-high-school-derwood-shooting-student-bathroom-montgomery-county-public-schools-lockdown-police-officers-mcknight

This timeline is extremely disturbing.

Why? They had to identify the shooter and extract him from a classroom without raising his suspicion or making him feel cornered because they knew he had a gun somewhere. No wonder it took a long time.

Nah. There's no way the shooter thought they were such clamoring idiots that they didn't realize there was a gunman on the lose until 2 hours later.

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Obviously we're on our way to reinstatement of SROs in schools, and thank goodness for that. I'll never understand people who wanted to defund police, etc. I'm all for left-wing policies, but only when they actually make sense. If you want to address racism in law enforcement, you make make police academies MORE selective, and you lure in smarter candidates with more attractive pay (same method if you want to increase teaching standards).The dumb people will never react well in crisis situations regardless of the training they get! You can't staff such positions with the poorly-paid and the ones without critical thinking skills, and then act surprised that they're incompetent.

Good luck achieving this with the police academies in the hands of the existing police force.

+1 To keep this close to home, look at the caes of the officers caught on camera abusing a 5 year-old child inside an MCPS school last year. No accountability. No repercussions. Nothing but a blue wall protecting bad cops from ever seeing their actions have consequences.

As long as the entire structure of policing continues to protect abusive cops, none of the changes listed above will ever happen. Except giving them more money, because rewarding abusive cops is the American Way (tm).

MCPD is filled with very good officers. It’s a strong police department. Yes, those two officers were in the wrong. Guess what? A lot of MCPD agrees. Instead of falling back on old arguments, I recommend you get to know current policing. Fortunately, there are a couple avenues through which you can do that. Request a ride-along. Attend the citizens’ academy. Instead of falling back on preconceived notions, get to know the department. They are out in the community and sponsor regular events.

There are good and bad employees in any workplace. I would say the good outweigh the bad in MCPD. SROs are the best of the best. Our SRO had been in our school for over a decade. She interacted with students to give them a smile. She knew students by name - not because they were in trouble but because she would take more time than the principal to have conversations with the students.

Yeah. I don’t want my kid interacting with police unless it is mandatory. I can see that you don’t understand it. You might reflect on the fact that your refusal to understand it is part of why there are no SROs in schools now.

we don't have SROs anymore in MCPS because of uber progressives and Elrich. Most Principals, and probably teachers, want SROs.

Elrich doesn't walk the school halls and interact with the kids everyday. When there is a violent students at school, Elrich is not the one responsible. The Principals are, and they want SROs, who were just one tools in the shed that could be used to de-escalate a situation in school.

What he did is the height of irresponsibility. It's like at work when the higher ups make decisions that are politically motivated, and the rest of us have to deal with the fallout and cleanup the mess. It's a crap situation for those with "boots on the ground". They hamstrung the Principals -- take away SROs but at the same time figure out a way to not have to suspend URM kids. How does Elrich propose that to happen? Oh, he doesn't know.. he's not a school administrator? No, he's not, so he shouldn't be making those kidns of decisions. Leave it to the Principals who lead the schools and who are the ones responsible for the kids' safety.

Elrich needs to keep his nose out of the schools.

Yes, I understand that you literally cannot comprehend why parents of “URM kids”—who are close to the majority in MoCo—don’t want police in schools. You can keep re-showing how you don’t understand if you want to.

Maybe if you taught your kid to view interacting with SRO's as a positive opportunity, we would all be better off.
instead you keep playing the paranoid victim in a community that is majority minority. Good luch with that

I am not going to be teaching my kid to accept the continual presence of armed representatives of the state as normal. Thanks anyway.

So you're going to teach them to accept getting gunned down in the boys room. You sound smart.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm coming from the third world country with hight crime rates and I'm telling you - GUNS culture is a huge problem in the US. And it will be worse.

Thank you. That’s what I said, too. But these crazy parents are busy talking about a woman wearing pink (who cares) to a press conference while a man wore a pink tie (no parents minded that).

No one knows who mister pink tie was. Who was he?

[Anonymous]

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Obviously we're on our way to reinstatement of SROs in schools, and thank goodness for that. I'll never understand people who wanted to defund police, etc. I'm all for left-wing policies, but only when they actually make sense. If you want to address racism in law enforcement, you make make police academies MORE selective, and you lure in smarter candidates with more attractive pay (same method if you want to increase teaching standards).The dumb people will never react well in crisis situations regardless of the training they get! You can't staff such positions with the poorly-paid and the ones without critical thinking skills, and then act surprised that they're incompetent.

Good luck achieving this with the police academies in the hands of the existing police force.

+1 To keep this close to home, look at the caes of the officers caught on camera abusing a 5 year-old child inside an MCPS school last year. No accountability. No repercussions. Nothing but a blue wall protecting bad cops from ever seeing their actions have consequences.

As long as the entire structure of policing continues to protect abusive cops, none of the changes listed above will ever happen. Except giving them more money, because rewarding abusive cops is the American Way (tm).

MCPD is filled with very good officers. It’s a strong police department. Yes, those two officers were in the wrong. Guess what? A lot of MCPD agrees. Instead of falling back on old arguments, I recommend you get to know current policing. Fortunately, there are a couple avenues through which you can do that. Request a ride-along. Attend the citizens’ academy. Instead of falling back on preconceived notions, get to know the department. They are out in the community and sponsor regular events.

There are good and bad employees in any workplace. I would say the good outweigh the bad in MCPD. SROs are the best of the best. Our SRO had been in our school for over a decade. She interacted with students to give them a smile. She knew students by name - not because they were in trouble but because she would take more time than the principal to have conversations with the students.

Yeah. I don’t want my kid interacting with police unless it is mandatory. I can see that you don’t understand it. You might reflect on the fact that your refusal to understand it is part of why there are no SROs in schools now.

I don't want my kid to interact with shooters in school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm coming from the third world country with hight crime rates and I'm telling you - GUNS culture is a huge problem in the US. And it will be worse.

Thank you. That’s what I said, too. But these crazy parents are busy talking about a woman wearing pink (who cares) to a press conference while a man wore a pink tie (no parents minded that).

No one knows who mister pink tie was. Who was he?

This has already been answered. State attorney McCarthy

[Anonymous]

Was anyone else on the Magruder townhall? A security guard named Mr. Nelson was mentioned as saving the victim's life by delivering early aid. Did he discover him?

[Anonymous]

Where was McCarthy and McKnight before a student was rushed to the hospital in critical condition?

Schools are a hot mess right now and these two turkeys need their time in the spotlight. More needs to be done to address safety problems in schools. I’m sure that the COVID staffing shortages is a contributing factor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where was McCarthy and McKnight before a student was rushed to the hospital in critical condition?

Schools are a hot mess right now and these two turkeys need their time in the spotlight. More needs to be done to address safety problems in schools. I’m sure that the COVID staffing shortages is a contributing factor.

They should have gone to the hospital.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Obviously we're on our way to reinstatement of SROs in schools, and thank goodness for that. I'll never understand people who wanted to defund police, etc. I'm all for left-wing policies, but only when they actually make sense. If you want to address racism in law enforcement, you make make police academies MORE selective, and you lure in smarter candidates with more attractive pay (same method if you want to increase teaching standards).The dumb people will never react well in crisis situations regardless of the training they get! You can't staff such positions with the poorly-paid and the ones without critical thinking skills, and then act surprised that they're incompetent.

Good luck achieving this with the police academies in the hands of the existing police force.

+1 To keep this close to home, look at the caes of the officers caught on camera abusing a 5 year-old child inside an MCPS school last year. No accountability. No repercussions. Nothing but a blue wall protecting bad cops from ever seeing their actions have consequences.

As long as the entire structure of policing continues to protect abusive cops, none of the changes listed above will ever happen. Except giving them more money, because rewarding abusive cops is the American Way (tm).

MCPD is filled with very good officers. It’s a strong police department. Yes, those two officers were in the wrong. Guess what? A lot of MCPD agrees. Instead of falling back on old arguments, I recommend you get to know current policing. Fortunately, there are a couple avenues through which you can do that. Request a ride-along. Attend the citizens’ academy. Instead of falling back on preconceived notions, get to know the department. They are out in the community and sponsor regular events.

So, the incident in question was less than two years ago. You think the department has reformed since that time? The point here isn't whetherall cops are abusive. It is whether the abusive cops are protected by the system. They clearly are, which means there are no good officers, only officers covering for the abusive ones.

[Anonymous]

The BOE and Monifa McKnight are failing this county. It’s time to say enough.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Where was McCarthy and McKnight before a student was rushed to the hospital in critical condition?

Schools are a hot mess right now and these two turkeys need their time in the spotlight. More needs to be done to address safety problems in schools. I’m sure that the COVID staffing shortages is a contributing factor.

They should have gone to the hospital.

Not in times of Covid, no. However, McKnight should have arrived on time for her presser, and given a much better speech than she did, and the school+LE should have done a much better job of identifying the wound, figuring out there was a shooter on the loose and catching him.